2010 Train Sets

[lightningtiger]

Yes I have been told August release date for Trains 2010 for Australia at least.

[Legoliner Pilot]

Moderators, could you please post links to the images of these new sets on the first post? It may be useful as you wouldn't need to search through pages of posts.. ;P

The moderators of this board have stated before that they will not link preliminaries.

If you want them so bad, here they are:

Overview

Passenger Train

Cargo Train

Level Crossing

Train Station

[The Green Brick Giant]

So remembering the earlier said 1 euro is 1 USD, then the USD prices would be

7936 Level Crossing = 16.99

7937 Train Station = 39.99

7938 Passenger Train = 102.99

7939 Cargo Train = 164.99

USD of course

If you were to convert euro to USD then it would actually be around $250 for the Cargo Train.

I like the fixed exchange rate better

$20, $50, $120, $180 would be my guess, but....

Again, let's not get all worked up about prices until we see them in actual shops, and S@H.

:)

We will find the prices out in 4-5 weeks with the Toy Fairs start.

[jamieberard]

If I remember correctly, Jamie Berard told me they still make LEGO in Billund as well as the USA and China.

Sorry if there was some confusion, but LEGO has not been produced in the USA for many years. If you're ever in doubt about where your sets are made, the bottom panel of every box will show where the components come from. Traditionally, the company gets most of its components from production sites in Denmark, Eastern Europe and Mexico. Additional things like motors, electronics & specialty parts can also come from China.

[Hinckley]

Sorry if there was some confusion, but LEGO has not been produced in the USA for many years. If you're ever in doubt about where your sets are made, the bottom panel of every box will show where the components come from. Traditionally, the company gets most of its components from production sites in Denmark, Eastern Europe and Mexico. Additional things like motors, electronics & specialty parts can also come from China.

Thanks Jamie! Hope you're doing well. Looking forward to facing off against Swedes in the Firefighter game again soon!

[jamieberard]

Thanks Jamie! Hope you're doing well. Looking forward to facing off against Swedes in the Firefighter game again soon!

Hopefully a big thaw will come to Billund before the Eurobricks invasion in a few months. Otherwise, we may be pumping ice through those fire nozzles ;)

[CopMike]

Thanks Jamie! Hope you're doing well. Looking forward to facing off against Swedes in the Firefighter game again soon!

Hopefully a big thaw will come to Billund before the Eurobricks invasion in a few months. Otherwise, we may be pumping ice through those fire nozzles ;)

Ice won´t be a problem for the Viking theme ! It will be great meeting up again !

[Duq]

Eurobricks invasion???

[Brickthus]

Sorry if there was some confusion, but LEGO has not been produced in the USA for many years. If you're ever in doubt about where your sets are made, the bottom panel of every box will show where the components come from. Traditionally, the company gets most of its components from production sites in Denmark, Eastern Europe and Mexico. Additional things like motors, electronics & specialty parts can also come from China.

Jamie, is it true the 8866 motor was aimed squarely at kids' trains (4 carriages 6x28), not as a drop-in replacement for the 9V train motor?

Is the 8866 motor produced in the same place as the 9V train motor was produced, or did the production site switch with the new motor?

I've found the 8866 motor overgeared and lacking torque compared to 9V train motors. This is a problem for AFOL trains and, ultimately, the take-up of PF trains in the AFOL communities.

Please would you pass this message on to the right people. Thanks.

Mark

[WesternOutlaw]

Hopefully a big thaw will come to Billund before the Eurobricks invasion in a few months. Otherwise, we may be pumping ice through those fire nozzles ;)

It's great to have you joining our EB Train Tech topics Jamie. We always welcome your insight, and thank you again for the great interview w/ Captain Zuloo a few months ago.

[ekimai]

Too cheap if you ask me, but it would be great

Either the pricing is wrong or this is a new type of battery box as you say. Looking at the size of my rechargeable you could only fit in 4 X AA batteries (6V if you are lucky), and I don't think AAA would be much better, so unless it is bigger we are non the wiser.

Speculating on the high res images, I noticed two things. First that it looks like there is a jack point for the power connection to recharge the battery but against that there seems to be a black bottom to the box which is not present on the rechargeable.......

Either way I like the look of the new sets, but so long to wait.

Hi All - Thought I ought to register to comment on this!

On both the new train box images is quite clearly the classic "batteries not included" logo, (right next to the hand that's holding the remote). 6 X AAA batteries would give similar performance to the 8878 battery if you used ~900mAh rechargeables.

Ekimai

[Legoist]

Hi All - Thought I ought to register to comment on this!

On both the new train box images is quite clearly the classic "batteries not included" logo, (right next to the hand that's holding the remote). 6 X AAA batteries would give similar performance to the 8878 battery if you used ~900mAh rechargeables.

Ekimai

I might be wrong but I think the boxes have some mistakes in the preliminary version, so I wouldn't trust them too much... the passenger train has the cargo locomotive on the right frame to explain motorization (although this might be fine anyway) and the list of track pieces shown in the bottom frame seems wrong to me: it says 16 curves + flexitrack, it doesn't seem to possibly form the oval displayed nearby.

Edited January 13, 2010 by Legoist

[ZueriHB]

I might be wrong but I think the boxes have some mistakes in the preliminary version, so I wouldn't trust them too much... the passenger train has the cargo locomotive on the right frame to explain motorization (although this might be fine anyway) and the list of track pieces shown in the bottom frame seems wrong to me: it says 16 curves + flexitrack, it doesn't seem to possibly form the oval displayed nearby.

I think it's that the Batteries are used for the Remote Controll, which needs 3 AAs, if I'm not mistaken.

[ekimai]

I think it's that the Batteries are used for the Remote Controll, which needs 3 AAs, if I'm not mistaken.

Even though it says "battery box" rather than "rechargeable battery"?

If the prices are correct, then this is the only possibility.

[Piranha]

Interesting

What is the point of a battery box, that you can't keep recharging? Well, it could just be used as a holder for the batteries

Also, the RC will definitely need those 3 AA batteries. Good thing I have rechargeable ones lying around

And if this is true as for needing batteries, than that explains the cheap suspected pricing, because the Rechargeable battery pack is $50 on LSAH and the charger cord is $25. So that is $75 cut off the price tag instantly.

Looks like I might l have to spend the extra $75 or buy some more AA Rechargeable Batteries.

Edited January 13, 2010 by Macoco

[metalandi]

I just read something about new train pictores over at brickset, but apparently they have been deleted again. Does anyone know more about this?

[Captain Zuloo]

I just read something about new train pictores over at brickset, but apparently they have been deleted again. Does anyone know more about this?

I would assume they were just the preliminary images that we have been seeing for the last few weeks that someone uploaded, then removed because LEGO requested they be taken down.

[Legoliner Pilot]

I would assume they were just the preliminary images that we have been seeing for the last few weeks that someone uploaded, then removed because LEGO requested they be taken down.

No no, they were much larger (not blown up either), and obviously had the preliminary stamp photo-edited out.

[WesternOutlaw]

We'll get them sooner or later.

[Captain Zuloo]

While we're all worrying that LEGO has somehow wronged us with providing no rechargable battery because of the "Batteries Not Included" on the box, may I just ask, did any of you actually look at the box? It is certainly refering to the remote as there is ALSO a picture of the PF components INCLUDING the battery box.

[Cwetqo]

Yes, we noticed that, but doubt remains because of the price which is too low for rechargeable battery.

[Captain Zuloo]

Yes, we noticed that, but doubt remains because of the price which is too low for rechargeable battery.

Did you consider that the price may be incorrect? I hope as much as everyone that it is as low as it is rumoured to be, but I would trust the box more than a post on a forum with no solid evidence.

[ekimai]

Did you consider that the price may be incorrect? I hope as much as everyone that it is as low as it is rumoured to be, but I would trust the box more than a post on a forum with no solid evidence.

This is all just speculation. Most of the pictures seem to stem from a scan of a Dutch trade catalogue, and would be a very elaborate hoax if that's what it is.

Personally speaking, I would welcome a small footprint AAA battery box aimed directly at train builders. I would be able to provide my own rechargeable batteries, and the unit cost would be so much lower I'd be able to purchase several of them.

[Cwetqo]

I doubt they will raise train set prices above 120-170eur which is usual price. These sets are intended for wider buye base then exclusive or UCS sets and price need do stay in reasonable boundaries.

Normal price (if you count in used PF parts) would be 170eur (125 eur PF parts + 55eur train and tracks) and 220eur for cargo train (which is around price for which emerald night was sold with PF functions).

BTW, do we have any information on 10194K (EN+PF) kits? If I remember correctly I saw more 9v conversion here then people who bought whole pack)

[Legoist]

Did you consider that the price may be incorrect? I hope as much as everyone that it is as low as it is rumoured to be, but I would trust the box more than a post on a forum with no solid evidence.

Well it's always possible that the cost much more than currently speculated, but then raises the question whether it is a realistic move that they will sell a >200$/e set in a retail shop

I couldn't see the catalog, did it have price tags? Probably not but if it does have, then between the picture and the price it is the picture most likely to be wrong, because the retailer may use the catalog to plan his order, and while the exact content of the box may change without affecting his orders much, the price certainly does.

I have serious doubts that the sets will be significanly more expensive than the current speculation. In my opinion it's more probable that either the PF system included does not contain the expensive recharging parts but only the cheaper normal-battery parts, or alternatively (optimistically) they have managed to produce the first at a lower cost. Or they are just fine with getting a smaller profit compared to previous sets, as long as this batch makes PF more popular.

BTW, what was the main purpose behind the research & development of PF engines for trains? Was it designed more with AFOL or KFOL in mind?