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:hmpf:

I wonder if anyone even listens to me.

Oh well, I'm just going to go stand in front of the bank and look pretty.

I was merely confirming your theory, Mrs. Gordon. You're a very clever lady, I must say. :wink:

Have we ruled out the possibility of a neutral killer? It's possible that the scum killer was blocked, and they're the one who tried to kill Mr. Right.

For clarification, I mean that the neutral killer was the one who tried to kill Mr. Right.

Again, that would have meant that the Mafia killed Lois, and that just doesn't make much sense at all (since people were suspicious of Lois). Unless they're using reverse psychology and want us to think that way... :wacko:

At this point, I definitely believe that the vigilante killed Lois, because why would the scum kill someone who might be voted off anyways? Also, the two people voted for were Susan and Lois. Since Susan was voted out, the vigilante would want to go with the town's suspicions and get Lois.

As to Mr. Right, are we even sure that someone tried to kill him? We only know someone tried to get it, could it have been an investigator? Either way, I believe he is innocent, but the killer/investigator and the blocker/protector are still a mystery.

But if the vigilante killed Lois and an investigator tried to approach me, then what did the scum do? There is a chance their killer was blocked, but why did the investigator failed to investigate me (as far as we know), then?

To me, the only logical theory would be the one Lucy and I came up with. If only the investigator would contact me so I would know if it was true... :sceptic:

I do wonder why the mob wanted Mr. Right dead last night? I suppose being District Attorney does paint a target on one's back, but wonder if there were any other reasons?

I've been a pain in their butt for a long time, and I did a few quite threatening speeches yesterday, if I may say so myself. :wink:

So it's only natural they want me out of the picture, I guess.

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The decreasing townies ventured off into the forest, to cut down the annual Christmas Tree. A few of the stronger men in town carried it back, while the women decorated the tree with ornaments and candles.

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A few presents were even exchanged by the townsfolk. The townspeople danced to popular sounds of the twenties, and it brought them back to a time when there was no death or mobs. For a bit of time, the townies were happy again.

"Merry Christmas to all." said the Governor. "You may also now vote as well."

You can now vote. It takes 11 votes for a conviction.

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Let's see possible ways that the "toys" could be fatal..

Frankie giving Matt (or vice-versa) a Jack-in-the-box. I think I once heard of a villain that had Jack-in-the-boxes that when they popped up they had machine guns! *oh*

Andy giving Mary a teddy... Andy seems to have taken a liking to my daughter. :blush:

Alfred giving Ernie a mysterious letter...

A conga line. :laugh:

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A conga line. :laugh:

That's the most dangerous part of the festival!

I must agree with the previous evaluation of the events that uccured last night, It seems logical that a neutral killer, or a vigillante killed Lois, and a Shcummy killer tried to get at the Attorney, making him innocent, or atleast not Mafia.

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Leanne, why are you so quick to attack Stapleton's finest? [unless the vigilante is my lagging brother John].

Lets remember that lack of active participation in the cities discussions doesn't necessarily put someone in the scum category, since we all live in different zime zones within our Stapleton zipcode :wink:

I must agree with my brother, we are all at risk, we the police will do our best but apparently these scum have no morals at all, and now with the possible addition of a rouge vigilante, these are dark times for the city I love.

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Let's get the ball rolling, then...

Vote: Sarah Wolf/TinyPiesRUs

I have several reasons for this vote: throughout the few days, she's been lurking well behind in the shadows, being extra careful not to really accuse or defend anyone. To me, that is a mark of someone with something to hide.

She is also one of the two dancers in the town, and we all know what kind of a reputation dancers hold. The other dancer, Susan, was wrongly convicted yesterday (of which I feel really bad), so it is not farfetched that the other dancer is actually scum, and more than pleased that it wasn't her on the chopping block yesterday.

During our celebrations, she was awfully close to the other cop twin (can't tell which one, though), and I am almost 100% sure that at least the other of them is scum as well.

Having no further proof, I will go with my gut instinct, and if it is wrong, I will hold my tongue from tomorrow onwards. But for now, I hope all loyal townies can agree with this vote.

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I was merely confirming your theory, Mrs. Gordon. You're a very clever lady, I must say. :wink:

Eek! Oh, uh, thank you very much, Mr. Right, that's awfully nice of you to say. Here, have a cookie, I feel bad now. :blush:

Let's get the ball rolling, then...

Vote: Sarah Wolf/TinyPiesRUs

>snip<

Oh dear... those are some good claims, Mr. Right, and I'm glad you can back them up, but I'm not sure just yet. Do we really want to kill someone on Christmas?

But we have to take a chance... let me think about this one.

Andrew, dear, what are doing with that young lady?! Girls are yucky remember? Come play inside, sweetie.

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Let's get the ball rolling, then...

Vote: Sarah Wolf/TinyPiesRUs

I have several reasons for this vote: throughout the few days, she's been lurking well behind in the shadows, being extra careful not to really accuse or defend anyone. To me, that is a mark of someone with something to hide.

She is also one of the two dancers in the town, and we all know what kind of a reputation dancers hold. The other dancer, Susan, was wrongly convicted yesterday (of which I feel really bad), so it is not farfetched that the other dancer is actually scum, and more than pleased that it wasn't her on the chopping block yesterday.

During our celebrations, she was awfully close to the other cop twin (can't tell which one, though), and I am almost 100% sure that at least the other of them is scum as well.

Having no further proof, I will go with my gut instinct, and if it is wrong, I will hold my tongue from tomorrow onwards. But for now, I hope all loyal townies can agree with this vote.

Hmm....this is true. But there is a while yet to vote.

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She was a married chef, too.

I know. I'm sorry for your loss. I thought she was a beautiful woman, is there anything wrong with that?

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I have several reasons for this vote: throughout the few days, she's been lurking well behind in the shadows, being extra careful not to really accuse or defend anyone. To me, that is a mark of someone with something to hide.

So making blind accusations is a good thing now? And the only person who has been seriously attacked so far was Susan, and I didn't defend her because she was acting awfully scummy at times. If it would make you feel better, I'm ashamed to say I would've voted for Susan had I not been snoozing at the time of the final votes.

She is also one of the two dancers in the town, and we all know what kind of a reputation dancers hold. The other dancer, Susan, was wrongly convicted yesterday (of which I feel really bad), so it is not farfetched that the other dancer is actually scum, and more than pleased that it wasn't her on the chopping block yesterday.

We've tried this theory before in previous games... of life, and it's almost never worked out. Allegiances in most games of life are usually randomly assigned to characters, so there's an equally likely chance of any character being scum. And if the roles of scum are only given out to those with appropriate jobs, then we could entirely rule out the possibility of children or hobos being scum.

During our celebrations, she was awfully close to the other cop twin (can't tell which one, though), and I am almost 100% sure that at least the other of them is scum as well.

See above. Roles are randomly assigned, so we can't be certain that one of the cops is scum.

Besides, this is the first photo where I'm seen close to one of the cops. I'm by no means close to them in any of the other photos we've seen.

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So are you scum or not? :tongue:

Honestly, like I said, I am going with gut feeling. If someone has a better suggestion about who to vote, I'm all ears.

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Leanne, why are you so quick to attack Stapleton's finest? [of which there are 3, not 2, but you evidently forgot that] At this point in the game...of life, the police cannot 'keep the peace' any more effectively than a normal citizen or child [unless the vigilante is my lagging brother John]. Obviously, if I survive this, I'll have earned several citations for ineffective police role in place of crisis, but that's not the point. The point is, is that one of my fellow policemen is as likely to be a scum as you are, so if you want to accuse someone, don't dance around it.

I am accusing the Police of housing a mamber of the mafia, knowingly or not.

Okay let's say that hypothetically that the police chief was mafia. It would be the perfect role for one. First he could control the local law enforcement and keep a close eye on who he could trust. With the deaths of most of the security our town had, we would immediatly trust whoever's left. First we would feel guilty that two of their fellow officers died and besides you guys are the only people with equipment for this kind of investigation. Someone tried breaking into the town's courthouse and people are dying off left and right. Of course we would feel the need for your protection.

You police also stick together so even if one of you were mafia you wouldn't want to accuse one of your brothers in blue (or black in Lego's case). Would you think that someone that's your friend and has your back in the field is scum? Therefore it's the perfect ruse for anyone wanting to hide.

The police have weapons, cars, and are a symbol of order so they can keep the peace somewhat. Even if not in reality but also in a psychological sense too. In the worst conditions people will always flock to the military or police force.

I don't know who yet but I have a feeling in my gut that one of you is mafia.

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*ummmmm... snip*

I remember you've been on the polices' case all day now, specificly the twins. I think you've been a bit pushy abput it, which leads me to beleive that during the night last night you investigated one of them and descovered out that he was either a special townie er, a Shcum! that's right I think your an investigator fer either us (the Townies) er them (the Shcum).

You could also be some other role that would enable you to descouver another persons role or affiliation, but I'm just guessing investigator

You know something or else why would you be so pushy?.

as to who to vote fer, I may side with you, but I'm not sure yet.

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Sapristi! Even if the chief is scum or not...he's still the chief of police, and right now, I won't vote down any cop. Law and Order must be maintained...

Leanne, to be perfectly equitable, it's you I distrust. You attack the police force repeatedly, claiming either me, my badge-blinged brother John, or the Chief is scum, when you ought to know, because Sarah already said, that "Allegiances in most games of life are usually randomly assigned to characters, so there's an equally likely chance of any character being scum." Since you know that, I sincerely trust that you know that, you clearly have an ulterior motive. Maybe you're the town investigator, and the Chief truly is scum. Maybe you're an..insane investigator, I think the phrase is, and you've been told the Chief is scum. Or, and I just throw this out there, you're scum, and you want to demoralize the town by killing the chief.

Since there's no way of knowing which is fact for sure, I'll look at it numerically - there's a 2 in 3 chance that the Chief is not scum.

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I am accusing the Police of housing a mamber of the mafia, knowingly or not.

Okay let's say that hypothetically that the police chief was mafia. It would be the perfect role for one. First he could control the local law enforcement and keep a close eye on who he could trust. With the deaths of most of the security our town had, we would immediatly trust whoever's left. First we would feel guilty that two of their fellow officers died and besides you guys are the only people with equipment for this kind of investigation. Someone tried breaking into the town's courthouse and people are dying off left and right. Of course we would feel the need for your protection.

You police also stick together so even if one of you were mafia you wouldn't want to accuse one of your brothers in blue (or black in Lego's case). Would you think that someone that's your friend and has your back in the field is scum? Therefore it's the perfect ruse for anyone wanting to hide.

The police have weapons, cars, and are a symbol of order so they can keep the peace somewhat. Even if not in reality but also in a psychological sense too. In the worst conditions people will always flock to the military or police force.

I don't know who yet but I have a feeling in my gut that one of you is mafia.

I will repeat what has been said:

In these games... of life, it is a clear mark of either a new player or obvious scum when you make accusations based, not in fact, not in logic, but simply by how a person looks or what their role in the community was before this game...of life started.

I am growing suspicious of you. I will hold off on voting until we talk it out some more, but all you have done today is try to get everyone voting for someone based on the near-meaningless persona's that are assigned in this game... of life.

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In these games... of life, it is a clear mark of either a new player or obvious scum when you make accusations based, not in fact, not in logic, but simply by how a person looks or what their role in the community was before this game...of life started.

Exactly.

I am growing suspicious of you. I will hold off on voting until we talk it out some more, but all you have done today is try to get everyone voting for someone based on the near-meaningless persona's that are assigned in this game... of life.

Seriously, I thought we were looking for fact, not playing "if one of them wasn't bad, the other must be." :hmpf_bad:

Listen, you can't honestly expect that to work when most things in this town are divided into twos... married couples, gas station attendants, bank employees, cinema employees, politicians, kids even. The only thing we have 3 of are cops, and one could say we have 2 cops and a chief. Do we just kill one of each and hope? Then when that fails, do we kill the other? Talk about a quick way to lose this town...

I don't think I'm going to be jumping to any more conclusions based on this kind of faulty logic, I intend to see what is discovered and try to use real evidence. We made our mistake on day 1, honest as it may have been, and it seems like the vigilante made the same mistake with Mrs. Jackson. We can't afford to keep making those mistakes, and at this point, we don't know a lot, but that is bound to change, and until then we can certainly watch for behaviours that are obvious, but activity level considering this is Christmas and people are busy and chosen occupation do not seem like good indicators right now.

I do think that voting patterns are useful, but after only one day, it's hard to put much together from that.

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I'm not mafia and was only trying to come up with a logical assumption. I may know somthing I may not but in these times where anyones a target I'm just trying to discover who the mafia are. I partly pressed this is is to see what kind've response there would be from you guys, but also to test a theory.

Both of you police officers protected eachother with the same arguement, which only hieghtened my suspicion. How am I to know you're not mafia.

I'm sorry if I pressed this a little too hard.

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Well, you can't exactly know at this stage who is scum and who is not. But when you repeat over and over again: "I think the police are corrupt" you seem to be trying to get an opportunistic conviction on someone , which is characteristic of mafia.

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Come to think of it

Leanne, You've been on the Polices' case the whole time, Perhaps you are Mafia and know that none of the Police are, and are trying to kill them off. That's just another theory o' mine, and it's nothin' personal, I'm just alittle concerned.

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Well, you can't exactly know at this stage who is scum and who is not. But when you repeat over and over again: "I think the police are corrupt" you seem to be trying to get an opportunistic conviction on someone , which is characteristic of mafia.

No I totally agree with you. The one time I repeated myself exactly was an accident and you can't take back a post. I also did'nt know if anyone had read that post :blush: .

One thing I want to know is, what was Matthew Right doing so late at the courthouse? Just curious.

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I have been reading through many of your different possible logical alignments on various players, claimed to be mafia infilitrated inside Police, Dancer and etc. It's true, to a certain extend that such possible reference of categories in various occupations could be settled among them, to facilitate the killing of the loyal citizens. However, no one knows for sure if there is such a possibilities in this case, and we are just making a blind shot.

I really need to think through on this vote carefully. We have lost 2 citizens, are we ready to make another hasty judgement?

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One thing I want to know is, what was Matthew Right doing so late at the courthouse? Just curious.

I already said I barricaded myself in my office to protect me, is that a crime suddenly? *shuffles through his law book* No, it isn't.

Seriously, right now I must be the least suspicious person in this town with all the info I've given you, yet you still question me and not the 18 other people of which a good percentage of them are scum? :sceptic:

And all this talk about alignments and pairs and jobs may not lead anywhere, but again, if someone has something more concrete to base their votes on, I would really like to know it.

So for now, I'm sticking with voting for Sarah Wolf. And I hope people who are still here and not off celebrating somewhere, would use their right to vote too, or else the day will end without a conviction, which has proven to be very devastating to the loyal townies. :sad:

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With wild accusations flying around, and the absence of many people due to the holidays, we'll never convict if we don't settle down. There are definitely some clear heads in the community, emphasizing that "one police officer must be scum". In these games of life, it's completely random. If this pattern was really kept up, half of us would be scum, since there are two or three people to a similar profession.

Our female cinema worker (can't remember your name right now :blush: ) seems suspicious, but I have a gut feeling there is more than meets the eye. I suspect she is some kind of investigator, and conducted an experiment to see how the police reacted. I'm still not sure what the results mean, but the police seem to be very close.

As much as I hate to talk about doing something and not actually take action, in these circumstances I must. I am not sure who is lying or not, but I'm trying to keep a clear consciousness. Maybe some rest will help.

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I am not sure who is lying or not, but I'm trying to keep a clear consciousness. Maybe some rest will help.

Uh, that's exactly the kind of mentality the scum wants you to take! We may be the good guys here, but this is a game... of life, and if we don't do anything, we will lose the game to those who don't care about clear consciousnesses.

So please, use your vote, Mr. Nurse!

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