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Are you an Apple fan?  

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  1. 1. do you like apple products?

    • I completely love them
      27
    • I like them
      28
    • I have no interest in them
      2
    • I do not like their products
      13


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Photos? Lack of external media makes it impractical.

I was semi-wrong on this one. Apple has promised a external dongle that will allow USB and SD access for cameras. (I doubt that it'll be usable for much else.) It'll probably support all cameras that don't need drivers. (My last two didn't.) It does improve the usefulness of the device... but at the same time it highlights one of the many things that annoy me about Apple; lack of expandability. Apple obviously don't want people to be able to expand on-board memory with a SD card, so they went for this solution. Lame.

Another interesting link, about some positives of the iPod. Not that it sold me on it.

http://www.lukew.com/ff/entry.asp?994

In summary; simple is good. While it is true for many people, it does kind of paint the Apple audience as being computer illiterate.

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I was semi-wrong on this one. Apple has promised a external dongle that will allow USB and SD access for cameras. (I doubt that it'll be usable for much else.) It'll probably support all cameras that don't need drivers. (My last two didn't.) It does improve the usefulness of the device... but at the same time it highlights one of the many things that annoy me about Apple; lack of expandability. Apple obviously don't want people to be able to expand on-board memory with a SD card, so they went for this solution. Lame.

In summary; simple is good. While it is true for many people, it does kind of paint the Apple audience as being computer illiterate.

Do you know if this was going to be included or at an extra charge? If they charge xtra that just seems like away to charge more for something that should ahve been included.

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In summary; simple is good. While it is true for many people, it does kind of paint the Apple audience as being computer illiterate.

Well, I think this is quite true. Apple markets itself a lot to people who don't know how to use computers much, just look at the latest couple versions of crappy iMovie that oversimplifies everything so that you can easily upload your home videos of little Johnny and send them off to gramps.

I think Apple certainly is trying to market the iPad to people who are not so great at computers, and for them it's probably a good strategy. Because when you market it to people in the know, they'll see everything that's missing and not be so impressed, like we've heard in this thread. But computer illiterate people probably think it looks awesome.

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Sure the first generation has some kinks but as the line progresses the iPad will get better and better.

Agreed, this is a foundation and I'm sure many of those "kinks" were design decisions by Apple. Nothing like a new version to generate some revenue. Don't forget Apple is a public company that has to keep shareholders/analysts/whoever happy, the bottom line matters more than anything. It's a pity they have become something of a pop culture fad. They still have some pro apps (FCP, Aperture, etc...) but they certainly don't pay as much attention to people that actually use their computers for work. $50 upcharge just to get a matte screen on the "high end" 17" Macbook Pro? And what happened to all the great matte IPS monitors they used to make? Time to look at LaCie, NEC etc...

I've liked their goods for a few years now but as I move more and more into the pro realm I'm considering alternatives. They make a nice laptop as far as entertainment all around machines go--the MacBook is terrific (unless you like games).

The iPod Touch is nice and very useful.

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Do you know if this was going to be included or at an extra charge? If they charge xtra that just seems like away to charge more for something that should ahve been included.

It'll be extra; it's in the "iPad Accessories" section.

It's a bit of a pity they have become a something of a pop culture fad.

Yes, this is my problem with Apple these days. They take old ideas, declare them new, and people believe them. :sceptic:

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Yes, this is my problem with Apple these days. They take old ideas, declare them new, and people believe them. :sceptic:

Yeah, the thing is that people don't have enough "exposure" to Tablet PCs to know that they already exist. :sadnew:

  • 3 weeks later...
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Yes, Huge Apple fan and employe. Have been now for over 30 years.

First computer was an Apple II plus. Current home computer is a 2008 Mac Pro, and a 2008 17" MacBook Pro.

Always laugh at my relatives when they phone me about help with there Windows problems! live and learn :sceptic:

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Yes, my whole family is an Apple user :classic:

In fact, I'm currently writing this on a slightly-slow, wheezing iBook G4. It's on it's last legs, but we've had some good times together, haven't we, "Ol' Faithful"?

:grin:

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Is there a difference between ipod touch apps and iphone apps?

Most applications can be used by both devices unless the app needs a specific hardware feature such as a camera or gps chip in it. Those hardware features are found only on the iphone at this stage.

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My first computer was a iMac because I figured that would be better for 'brickfilming' than a PC, I had my stop motion software picked out from a magazine review and I knew it would integrate with iLife and so on.

Then I'd gotten an iPod so I could carry around my brickfilms and show them off.

I ended up needing a laptop for college classes and I got a MacBook because I'd started accumulating OSX software. I run windows in bootcamp for most of my serious schoolwork (windows specific CAD software, MATLAB, and so on), the two in one was a big selling point for one portable.

I got an iPhone to test apps I want to develop and replace my broken iPod. I cancelled the service because my first month bill was erroneously US$3700 too high :sceptic: but it's a great gadget without it.

Mac OSX rocks with little things like ease of access to special characters (option key!), easy screen captures, the exposé system, Grapher (go find it in utilities). iLife and Xcode are the core reasons I use a mac, well integrated, sturdy, and filling my special needs, for free with the system. there aren't really any affordable contenders in other OSes. Then there are the things that have windows versions or counterparts but I've invested in for mac (Adobe Creative Suite).

There were features that a lot of windows computers (at that time) didn't match (instant search, built-in webcam and dvd writing in the all in one iMac), and I liked that all configurations were accounted for, so something that should run on a mac was definitely going to run on mine (My family had some poor PCs through my kidhood :tongue: ).

Buuuuuut...

My next computer is going to be a PC. I need a PC anyway, and where I thought bootcamp was going to let me do everything, I started to find software that my hardware wouldn't even try to handle. neither my iMac or my MacBook had real graphics cards, and there was software (yeah, video games :tongue: ) older than my computers, or with famously low requirements, that wouldn't run because of just that. New macs aren't going to fill any needs that the ones I have can't still fill, and I'll use them for what they're for, for years to come.

but I'm starting to need to run more and more windows software, so before iThink about upgrading my Apples, I'll be getting a less pricy computer that will knock out everything I want to use in windows with computing power to spare.

iPad could have won me over if it had 2 year old macbook specs with that multitouch... :hmpf_bad:

but as a clear software lover, I'll keep watching the apps. If it gets any sort of standard format cad software or 3D modeling with a good UI, it would be a truly able computer in my eyes, and I would cave in :tongue:

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No, unless an iphone app uses a mike
Most applications can be used by both devices unless the app needs a specific hardware feature such as a camera or gps chip in it. Those hardware features are found only on the iphone at this stage.

Thanks guys :classic: I asked because I was interested in the bar code scanner app, knowing that it uses the camera function. Disappointing howere that the ipod touch lacks a camera, which means you can not use the barcode scanner . However I suspect that they will probably make the next model with a camera.

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I hear Apple's suing LEGO over patent infringements - link

:laugh:

Atleast its not as bad as Apple trying to sue Woolworths Australia for their new logo

apple-woolworths-logo.jpg

:wacko:

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I hear Apple's suing LEGO over patent infringements - link

:tongue:

:laugh:

Atleast its not as bad as Apple trying to sue Woolworths Australia for their new logo

I hope that's a joke as well... :look:

EDIT: It's true.

...and people wonder why I think Apple suck. :hmpf:

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:tongue:

I hope that's a joke as well... :look:

EDIT: It's true.

...and people wonder why I think Apple suck. :hmpf:

Yeap! I dont really see how Apple could actually win that case. It doesnt even look like their apple!

  • 1 month later...
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I voted "I like them". I enjoy listening to my iPod Nano (3rd Gen) every single day, and iTunes is a very easy program to use. However, Macs will never replace PCs for me. Many programs don't work for Macs, and they're not as versatile. They're good for casual computer and intetnet users, and apparently amazing at avoiding viruses (?), but there's so much more you can do with a PC.

The iPhone is, IMO, one of the best inventions of the decade, though. It's so easy to navigate, has fun apps, and I can browse my favorite websites with ease. I'll never be bored again. :thumbup: (Of course, many other phones can go on the Internet now with the same quality).

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They're good for casual computer and intetnet users, and apparently amazing at avoiding viruses (?), but there's so much more you can do with a PC.

I hear this a lot, but I never quite get it. I am fairly techy (I cracked open my iMac and swapped out my harddrive by myself) and as far as I know, there's few things a PC can do that a Mac can't. Jim, you know Mac's can run Windows, right? Actually, the only thing I know that PCs easily do is offer DIY versions, which is against Mac policy. But maybe that's Dells and IBMs policy too. Anyway, hardcore Mac users know how to tweak their systems, you just need a screwdriver.

For more info, Google 'hackintosh' :wink:

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Yeah Im really happy with what Apple included in 4.0. They really seemed to listen to consumers and added a lot of things that we were so desperately wanting and I think they have really made easy to use. Although I dont really see the point with iAds though I mean yeah it is annoying when you accidentally tap an ad that takes you away from that app you were in but now with multi-tasking wouldnt you just be able to go back to the app right where you left off? :sceptic: Games center looks like a really great idea and really gets apple's foot firmly in the door of the portable gaming arena.

Something that really annoys me is that my 2nd generation iPod Touch can do all these new features but multi tasking which is the most crucial one :cry_sad: . Its kind of annoying but a pretty good way for me to upgrade to the next iPhone! :classic:

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Jim, you know Mac's can run Windows, right?

Considering that you can't separate MacOS from Mac hardware (legally) that's kinda cheating. :wink:

Something that really annoys me is that my 2nd generation iPod Touch can do all these new features but multi tasking which is the most crucial one :cry_sad: . Its kind of annoying but a pretty good way for me to upgrade to the next iPhone! :classic:

I'd love to insult Apple over this, but the older models have a slower CPU and half the RAM; it's simply not possible.

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Considering that you can't separate MacOS from Mac hardware (legally) that's kinda cheating. :wink:

Forgive me if I'm interpreting you incorrectly, but I think Def was referring to the use of Bootcamp or Parallels.

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