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However, what do adults want to see? There's this stigma with animation that if it's not CGI, it's kids stuff, which is absolutely rubbish since I just recently purchased Akira and that is not a movie I'd show to a ten year old. :laugh: It's partially Shrek's fault, in that since then adults seem to think that if a film's animated with CG, it's going to be aimed at both kids and adults, and it's sort of true that since then there's been a shift to CGI. :sceptic:

Yeah, You're probably right that this can be one of the reasons. But, say like 15-30 years, was animated stuff targeted only to kids? I mean, weren't those considered adult stuff as well? Obiosuly people could always choose to watch them or not. But statisticaly, did animation become an adult stuff because of cgi or was it adored by them even before?

Surely Disney never thought about his hand drawn animations as stuff targeted only for kids, or even targeted to kids at all. Those were just animated stories. At least at the beginining.

Actually a lot of people still consider cgi animations as kids stuff. It often makes a lot of unnecesary confusion, as some adult say that a certain animation was too childish, and some parents complain that some animations should not realy be seen by kids.

So, basicaly, they're not that universal anymore. It seems that artist have already problems if they should write them for kids or for adults...

I'll agree with the big name actors who can't voice act. That's a problem. I will disagree with you on traditional animation being "fresh for decades". What about films like Toy Story? Is it not still being watched 20 years after it's initial release and adored by the general public?

And there was garbage during the 80's and 90's, for both film and TV. Quack Pack, Bonkers, the list goes on. I'll add I'm not a 90's kid; I spent most of my youth during the 2000's, so saying "we were lucky to live in different times" is sort of exclusive. The 90's had Batman and Gargoyles and Ducktales. The 2000's had Avatar: the Last Airbender and Kim Possible and Danny Phantom. There were some excellent animated shows during the 2000's, just during the first half of the decade. Maybe it's a generational gap, maybe I'm missing something, but I personally think we're in a better position now when it comes to animation then we were five years ago. We're getting some incredibly good western animated shows, unlike the drivel of Spongebob clones that were constantly airing.

Of course there was crap 20, 30 or 40 years ago. I didn't say that everything was perfect. I have a problem with watching some of the shows i enjoyed as a kid. Some are still great, some are not, some could be reshaped a little bit. But, say statisticaly, all those traditional classic hits are still higly enjoyed. While, with cgi, most of them, even if a box office hit, are forgetable.

Toy Story is one of execptions. It was something new, fresh, and prety well written. But you can't say the same thing about Toy Story 3. Which was one to watch, as most of cgi animations, they're simply funny at the first time. But also TS3 was rather forgetable, badly written, and extremely scary, especialy at the end.

And, with me saying that todays kids are less lucky, i just mean that there's nothing special about those shows. There hasn't been a single franchise in 200s that would bring something worthy, and original, and special. That would rock as much as TMNT, G.I.Joe, Ducktales, Cops, Dino-Riders, Visionaries, Captain Planet, Centurions, He-Man, Swat Cats and so on.

Of course kids can watch everything, a lot of people enjoy evertything. But there's just nothing catchy in any of those novadays shows.

Also, to not wholly derail this: Akira. Saw it, loved it, not a movie for kids, though. :laugh:

Haven't seen Akira yet :blush:

But with japanese animation, manga and stuff, i'd say that it's mostly adult stuff, as it's just like a different way of showing an adult story. Americans won't use animation to film adult sci-fi flicks, or horror flicks, or erotic flicks. Well, not very often. And apparently Japs are crazy about it. Not a big fun of manga though :laugh:

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Snowpiercer...Ugh, terrible. So many plot holes and things that don't make any sense. It's not exactly a pleasant movie to watch, either. 2 hours of my life I can't have back. I can't see how it was praised so highly by reviewers. A lot of user reviews on various sites seem to agree with me though, lol...Glad I'm not the only one.

Snowpiercer was more allegorical than it was science fiction. If you go into it expecting ultra-realistic, accurate sci-fi, then you're going to be disappointed. I personally love it.

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Snowpiercer was more allegorical than it was science fiction. If you go into it expecting ultra-realistic, accurate sci-fi, then you're going to be disappointed. I personally love it.

I got that, but to me it was to the point where I had to turn my brain off to ignore it. I'm that way with lots of movies, I couldn't watch Skyfall because it was so stupid, lol.

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I saw The Spongebob Movie: Sponge Out of Water. I loved the first film ever since it came out, and, this one was... interesting. The 2D animation parts were really good, but the movie was weighed down with some very crappy live-action hybrid parts that were pretty bad in terms of writing. The climax battle was pretty good, though. I'd give it a 7/10.

My favorite part...

was all the time travel parts. That was so funny, so well animated, and pretty clever!

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Ive been on a movie binge recently and Ive watch a lot of films over the past week or so.

Dredd

Man Of Steel

No Country for Old Men

True Grit

Unbreakable

Skyfall

Ted

And Gone Girl

All in all theres not a bad film so far, I'd already seen Man of Steel, Dredd, Skyfall and Ted but its been a while since I saw them. I remember liking Man of Steel more the first time, but its alright, still waiting for an incredible Superman film. Gone Girl is awesome but it really screws with your head, and I absolutely loved True Grit and No Country for Old Men. Unbreakable however was a real shock for me, I forgot M.Night Shyamalan has made good movies, plus I miss when Bruce Willis cared about the films he made.

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Predestination. Sci-fi crime type movie. The flashback story seemed a bit too long, I was wondering if the rest of the movie was just going to be about that but it all tied in eventually, and there was plenty of movie still left afterwards. Interesting, another one of those movies that you think over after it's finished.

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Godzilla (1998 version). It was god-awful. It started out pretty good but then went down hill from there. The giant lizard lacked the spirit and any resemblance of the real Godzilla. It just ran around and roared at the main characters like a T-rex instead of using its fiery bad breath advantage to stop them. Even my CMF habitat MOC did more nuclear cooking than this excuse of a Godzilla movie.

12940717905_3dc3513ec2_n.jpglizard man habitat by dr_spock_888, on Flickr

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Godzilla (1998 version). It was god-awful. It started out pretty good but then went down hill from there. The giant lizard lacked the spirit and any resemblance of the real Godzilla. It just ran around and roared at the main characters like a T-rex instead of using its fiery bad breath advantage to stop them. Even my CMF habitat MOC did more nuclear cooking than this excuse of a Godzilla movie.

Nice vig! But it did have a cool soundtrack. Except for Puff Daddy (or whatever he is called this week) nuclear-cooking Led Zeppelin.

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Boxtrolls. It was cheezy. :laugh:

Nice vig! But it did have a cool soundtrack. Except for Puff Daddy (or whatever he is called this week) nuclear-cooking Led Zeppelin.

Thanks. I don't remember the sound track.

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