Svelte Posted April 21, 2010 Posted April 21, 2010 I think are best odds are to lynch someone from the rescue helicopter because there is a 1/3 chance of getting it right, whereas if we lynch someone from the flight the chance is far greater to get it wrong, so if we do decide to vote, I think it would be in our best interest to vote off one of the coast guard. This is actually pretty clever thinking. The chance of one out of three being an Insane is much higher than if we voted off the rest of the group. Since there seems no obvious method of determining who is insane, then it's a numbers game - and your method does give us good odds. Hmm, maybe we should go for Officer Drake first - if anything, it would spare us the lengthy oratory and high school literature lessons... I mean, don't you think that's out of character for some US Coast Guard jock? For all his talk, he was only here 5 minutes before he suddenly abandoned everything he'd been taught about legal process and agreed to join a lynching mob... Haha, Drake me old mate, I'm only kidding! I say, let's keep a close eye on these Coast Guard fellas and get rid of the most annoying suspicious one tomorrow.
Professor Flitwick Posted April 21, 2010 Posted April 21, 2010 I didn't necessarily forget, I just thought that all the insanes wanted to come to this island, so therefore why would she sacrifice herself to transport more people her for the insanes to kill, something just doesn't add up. I'm going over in my head what the crew said, maybe something can give us a clue... What about yourself, you crashed us all here! How do we know you didn't bring us here on purpose?
badboytje88 Posted April 21, 2010 Posted April 21, 2010 That could be a good reson to vote on someone!
sok117 Posted April 21, 2010 Posted April 21, 2010 I'm the co-pilot, I don't fly the plane by myself. Don't point the blame back at me for making accusations, I just want to make sure we can get through this with as little killing as possible. I'd rather take action then sit around and wait for something to happen. But then again there is still no solid evidence surrounding anybody.
Professor Flitwick Posted April 21, 2010 Posted April 21, 2010 I'm the co-pilot, I don't fly the plane by myself. Don't point the blame back at me for making accusations, I just want to make sure we can get through this with as little killing as possible. I'd rather take action then sit around and wait for something to happen. But then again there is still no solid evidence surrounding anybody. Yes, but Co-pilots surely must do some piloting. And, I wasn't trying to convice others to vote for you, mearly saying that there are... reasonable (not really the word I'm looking for ) reasons for voting for you, as much as there is in anyone else worth blaming.
sok117 Posted April 21, 2010 Posted April 21, 2010 Yes, but Co-pilots surely must do some piloting. And, I wasn't trying to convice others to vote for you, mearly saying that there are... reasonable (not really the word I'm looking for ) reasons for voting for you, as much as there is in anyone else worth blaming. Oh, I fly the plane, but not by myself as I said before. I'm sorry, I guess I'm just kind of anxious, I really just want to go home, and I refuse to die here before seeing my family again.
The Legonater Posted April 21, 2010 Posted April 21, 2010 I say, let's keep a close eye on these Coast Guard fellas and get rid of the most annoying suspicious one tomorrow. You will, will you? And how will you make certain of that...?
Professor Flitwick Posted April 21, 2010 Posted April 21, 2010 Oh, I fly the plane, but not by myself as I said before. I'm sorry, I guess I'm just kind of anxious, I really just want to go home, and I refuse to die here before seeing my family again. It's okay, I should apologies. What I said could've cost you your life, Sorry. I'm sure building bonds of trust here will help us get off this Godforsaken rock all the quicker.
Sandy Posted April 21, 2010 Posted April 21, 2010 You will, will you? And how will you make certain of that...? I'm with you on this, Mr. Caveman. That naked old man sure is confident about himself. I'd keep a close eye on him if he would just put his pants back on. If you guys want to just go to sleep without voting now, then I'm fine by that, but don't come crying to me when you wake up with your throats slit open. However, I will not accept any fingers pointed at my colleagues or me. It's impossible for us to have done anything to this poor girl who was murdered, and as for the reason why both your plane and our helicopter crashed down, well, nobody knows for now. The bottom line is we came here to rescue you, not with guns blazing. If we wanted to kill you, we would have just left you here to rot rather than risking our butts to save your ungrateful behinds.
The Legonater Posted April 21, 2010 Posted April 21, 2010 I'm with you on this, Mr. Caveman. That naked old man sure is confident about himself. I'd keep a close eye on him if he would just put his pants back on. The nerve of you people... I am merely trying to get accustomed to this cursed Island- not trying to be a perve like Cyril. It's been burning hot here, my clothes are soaking wet, and I have some survival training. Don't mock me. The nerve of you people... I am merely trying to get accustomed to this cursed Island- not trying to be a perve like Cyril. It's been burning hot here, my clothes are soaking wet, and I have some survival training. Don't mock me. Oh wait- you were talking about Cyril .
Svelte Posted April 21, 2010 Posted April 21, 2010 You will, will you? And how will you make certain of that...? If today ends without a conviction, hopefully we will get some clues 'tonight' which will help us decide tomorrow. That's how things usually work. I suggest any investigators we have with us or anyone with useful special skills check out the Coast Guard.
The Legonater Posted April 21, 2010 Posted April 21, 2010 If today ends without a conviction, hopefully we will get some clues 'tonight' which will help us decide tomorrow. That's how things usually work.I suggest any investigators we have with us or anyone with useful special skills check out the Coast Guard. True, true. But they did risk there lives to get here, I doubt they'd be insane.
sok117 Posted April 21, 2010 Posted April 21, 2010 True, true. But they did risk there lives to get here, I doubt they'd be insane. Not all of them, but most likely one of them.
Svelte Posted April 21, 2010 Posted April 21, 2010 True, true. But they did risk there lives to get here, I doubt they'd be insane. I am just going by Samantha Wonderfield's reasoning. Anyway, I personally think it is better if we aren't going to vote today (as looks to be the case) to go into the next day with some kind of strategy. Otherwise we'll all just stand around the beach saying 'Oh noes! Who could the Insane be?' and waiting for evidence to drop from the sky... Actually, considering the manner we got here... maybe that's kind of plausible!
pedro Posted April 21, 2010 Posted April 21, 2010 Moss covered rock is high in vitamins and minerals, you know! Ever so thoughtful of ya... but I'll stick with the fish in the sea! My point is that Johnson is a seasoned veteran of rescuism, and you'd do much better listening to him rather than the politician. If anyone can, Drake can. I think are best odds are to lynch someone from the rescue helicopter because there is a 1/3 chance of getting it right, whereas if we lynch someone from the flight the chance is far greater to get it wrong, so if we do decide to vote, I think it would be in our best interest to vote off one of the coast guard. No offense... This is actually pretty clever thinking... I say, let's keep a close eye on these Coast Guard fellas and get rid of the most annoying suspicious one tomorrow. Now just you hold your horses a minute there - no-one should be lynchin' no-one! First, you're assuming that one of us insane. Now in our line of work some might say we are, with all the situations we get ourselves in to rescue folks like yourselves; but let me tell you that's a damn far cry from murdering some poor hapless gal! Asides that as far as I make it she was dearly departed before we even got here. Second, you lynch one of us, find out we're sane as a Judge and straight as a die. D'you just try again? D'you just keep goin' til your all out of coast guards and nowhere nearing pinning the crazy who's holding out amongst you? :hmph: And third.. just who you callin' fella? I'm the co-pilot, I don't fly the plane by myself... I'm sorry, but that don't absolve you from nothin'. I understand your need for action but we need level heads to get through this... Oh, why, umm, thank you Patr- err, Officer Rockford. My pleasure as always, sweetie... I need to slip out of this life-preserver... I'll be over here if you need me. However, I will not accept any fingers pointed at my colleagues or me. It's impossible for us to have done anything to this poor girl who was murdered, and as for the reason why both your plane and our helicopter crashed down, well, nobody knows for now. The bottom line is we came here to rescue you, not with guns blazing. If we wanted to kill you, we would have just left you here to rot rather than risking our butts to save your ungrateful behinds. You said it Seth... it's ironic that we find ourselves in need of being rescued, not just from our crash but from the firing line. Let's hope tonight turns up some clues. If today ends without a conviction, hopefully we will get some clues 'tonight' which will help us decide tomorrow... I suggest any investigators we have with us or anyone with useful special skills check out the Coast Guard. Feel free... we got nothin' to hide. True, true. But they did risk there lives to get here, I doubt they'd be insane. Thanks for your vote of confidence, sugar...
badboytje88 Posted April 22, 2010 Posted April 22, 2010 I think we’re putting too much time into trying to figure out who to vote for. I don’t want to kill any of you. And all this talking about who might be sane and who might be insane is getting to me. People I thought were sane, now start looking insane. But were they insane from the start and just good at hiding it. Or are we all just starting to get insane due to the crazy conditions we’re in. I don't think murdering the rescue crew is the answer and blaming the pilots of the plane doesn't make sense either. Maybe we should concentrate on finding a way to get off of this island, build a shelter of go hunting. I’m going to do something useful. I’m going to dig some holes to trap some small animals we could eat.
Rick Posted April 22, 2010 Posted April 22, 2010 If you guys want to just go to sleep without voting now, then I'm fine by that, but don't come crying to me when you wake up with your throats slit open. Looks like that's the way things are. I just hope people with good night-vision have got a strategy worked out. And eeehm, I doubt if anyone with a slit throat would wake up. Regarding the odds of voting one of the rescue crew. The odds are likely going to be roughly the same among the passengers. And Seth is right in saying that the one who murdered that poor girl is among the passengers since the murder happened before the helicopter crash. I’m going to do something useful. I’m going to dig some holes to trap some small animals we could eat. Careful with your fingernails hun.
Svelte Posted April 22, 2010 Posted April 22, 2010 Regarding the odds of voting one of the rescue crew. The odds are likely going to be roughly the same among the passengers. That's only true numerically. When you allow for 'the human factor' it is much easier to identify and eliminate one suspect out of three than it is to gain consensus on four or five Insanes out of a spread of twenty-odd.
Shadows Posted April 22, 2010 Posted April 22, 2010 Lunch is served! I stumbled upon a nice side of, um, meat on the beach and have been roasting it all day. I can't go into the exact recipe or my competitors might get word and steal it, but I'm sure you'll like it. I pretty much had to use all the supplies we salvaged from the plane, but at least we have potatoes, onions and carrots to go with it. Today. Tomorrow might not be so good if we don't catch, find, or club someonething. I'm with you on this, Mr. Caveman. That naked old man sure is confident about himself. I'd keep a close eye on him if he would just put his pants back on. Yeah, he is a cocky old bugger.
Dragonator Posted April 22, 2010 Posted April 22, 2010 If the mysterious crashes were an act of sabotage, That would mean that at least one member of the insanes were on flight 518 and another member on the rescue chopper. I think are best odds are to lynch someone from the rescue helicopter because there is a 1/3 chance of getting it right, whereas if we lynch someone from the flight the chance is far greater to get it wrong, so if we do decide to vote, I think it would be in our best interest to vote off one of the coast guard. No offense. But If we kill an innocent person, I don't know If I could bear to continue , so I guess I'm currently undecided. The major assumption here, of course, is that these crashes were an act of sabotage. We don't know that this is true, it is simply an assumption you are making to try and justify the means. I think false and misleading information is something we shall need to be very weary of while we go about our investigations this day, as that sort of thing can lead to heated conflict, which usually leads to a lowering in our chances of survival. I am putting this to you frankly, as I believe you are all intelligent people; without teamwork and rational and informed voting, it will not be long before our numbers are severely deflated. The aim is for as many of us sane people to come out of this situation alive, thus we must be very careful. I have put my life in the hands of my fellow officers many times before, and am doing so again right now, in a way. They have had years of experience dealing with survival situations, and I put my full trust in commitment to the United States Coast Guard Code. I could not wish for a better pair of people to be stranded on a desert island with during a rescue mission; they are true professionals, and I am honoured to have served with them these past years, and hopefully for many more years to come. Regarding the odds of voting one of the rescue crew. The odds are likely going to be roughly the same among the passengers. And Seth is right in saying that the one who murdered that poor girl is among the passengers since the murder happened before the helicopter crash. I believe Richard has assessed the situation correctly here; we are no more likely to be insane than any of the rest of you. There is no guarantee that exactly one among us three is one of the insane murders we are looking for, nor is there any guarantee that this is not so; we have no way of knowing and voting simply off numerical odds and grouping is just plain silly in my estimation, and isn't likely to get us anywhere at all. We should be looking for some real evidence, not grasping at coincidences and supposed patterns in the number of people here. Any of us could be insane. The job we must set ourselves to is flushing them out into the open so we can deal with them in an appropriate manner.
RileyC Posted April 22, 2010 Posted April 22, 2010 Lunch is served! I stumbled upon a nice side of, um, meat on the beach and have been roasting it all day. What kind of meat? Human meat perhaps?
iamded Posted April 22, 2010 Posted April 22, 2010 [...] and I refuse to die here before seeing my family again. Oh, tell me about it. I just wanna get back to my wife and kids. I didn't want to think about it, but since you mentioned family... Eh, I hope they aren't worrying too much... But hopefully rescue will arrive soon enough, and we can all go back to civilisation, our families, and good food!! Not all of them, but most likely one of them. What if they are all insane. Boy, that'd be a twist. [blah-de blah blah] Boy oh boy, you sure talk a lot, dont'cha chief? What kind of meat? Human meat perhaps? I don't see a or a there... seems kinda eager, almost hopeful, doesn't it?
def Posted April 22, 2010 Posted April 22, 2010 I'm just thinking to myself, late in the day, but... Would insanes sound insane, or would they sound really, really sane? Perhaps, investigating the voices of "reason" would be a wise bet...
Inconspicuous Posted April 22, 2010 Posted April 22, 2010 I'm just thinking to myself, late in the day, but... Would insanes sound insane, or would they sound really, really sane? I would think that they would want to seem quite sane. That way the sanes who act a little crazy would come across badly, and would be more likely to draw suspicion. And as much as I don't like to point fingers, that would make Mr. Monologue Drake over there a prime target, especially considering many of us are still into the "one of the Coast Guards is insane" theory. However, at this point nothing is proven. Hopefully night may reveal a few answers.
Sandy Posted April 22, 2010 Posted April 22, 2010 As much as I hate to even imply that I'm suspicious of my fellow rescuers, you're making a lot of sense, Carter. You're a sharp guy, aren't ya?
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