Star Wars: The Clone Wars: season 3 discussion

[The Legonater]

I thought it was just his last name, but it was even Di's whole name: Ima-Gun Di = "Ima Gonna Die" according to Filoni. Oh brother...

At least lLucas was subtle about it, this is just nuts.

Edited September 25, 2010 by The Legonater

[Professor Flitwick]

H|ave you heard about his brother, Not-Longa-Lft?

I saw the episode, which wasn't bad. One question, if it takes place before Ambush,what was the Twliek criminal doing fighting with the Republic?

[Darth Jar Jar]

I thought it was just his last name, but it was even Di's whole name: Ima-Gun Di = "Ima Gonna Die" according to Filoni. Oh brother...

I thought Di was a bad a enough hint but Ima-Gun Di is just crazy

Create such a great character and then kill them of thats the clone wars for ya

[sok117]

I thought it was just his last name, but it was even Di's whole name: Ima-Gun Di = "Ima Gonna Die" according to Filoni. Oh brother...

Thats just ridiculous, not one of daves good moments.

[Darth Jar Jar]

H|ave you heard about his brother, Not-Longa-Lft?

Now I wonder how long too we see him come into the clone wars and get killed off

BTW How long you guys think until the Republic Commandos will come in

[Satellite Jack]

Now I wonder how long too we see him come into the clone wars and get killed off

BTW How long you guys think until the Republic Commandos will come in

I don't think I want to see the Republic Commandos anymore, because the way this season has been going they'll probably be killed off

[CMP]

I don't think I want to see the Republic Commandos anymore, because the way this season has been going they'll probably be killed off

They won't do that. Sev's in it, I believe, becuse I saw all 4. Sev doesn't die until their mission to Kashyykk.

[Oky]

Well, there go all my arguments against the possibility of Greedo appearing in this series. Ugh! It doesn't make sense at all! I wish they would lay off all that OT-fan service. Most hardcore OT fans don't even watch this show.

Anyway, the episode was alright. I liked the battle, and I'll join sok17 in saying that the Jar Jar bit was kinda funny. It's good to know that he can at least be a good distraction. Aside from the Greedo part, the next episode looks a little better than this one. Can't wait to see Lucas' character be a badass.

One question, if it takes place before Ambush,what was the Twliek criminal doing fighting with the Republic?

You mean Cham Syndulla? He's not a criminal, he's a freedom fighter, but yeah, I've been wondering that too. Perhaps this episode is before Ambush, but after the first Ryloth trilogy?

They won't do that. Sev's in it, I believe, becuse I saw all 4. Sev doesn't die until their mission to Kashyykk.

Yeah, besides, killed by what? They're just delivering a corpse to Kamino, and you don't think Kamino will be under attack again, do you?

[sok117]

It says on the episode guide of supply lines that it goes ambush, supply lines, then ryloth trilogy. I also noticed that on the beginning news reel it said that the clones were closing in when in fact they were getting surronded by the droids that were closing in. I thought I heard that but it could have just been my ears decieving me.

I'm not suprised that they brought in another ot character to screw up the timeline. Boba was suppose to be older then bossk, it was in bounty hunter wars the novel. But they messed that up too. So I'm pretty used to it by now. And for those who didn't see it, the trailer is

HERE

[Oky]

It says on the episode guide of supply lines that it goes ambush, supply lines, then ryloth trilogy. I also noticed that on the beginning news reel it said that the clones were closing in when in fact they were getting surronded by the droids that were closing in. I thought I heard that but it could have just been my ears decieving me.

Uh, no, it says Supply lines precedes all the others. Which doesn't really make sense in regard to Syndulla.

And it must have been your ears because it said the droid army was closing in.

You should go get your eyes and ears checked.

I'm not suprised that they brought in another ot character to screw up the timeline. Boba was suppose to be older then bossk, it was in bounty hunter wars the novel. But they messed that up too. So I'm pretty used to it by now.

Yeah, don't remind me. That whole season finale was messed up.

[Professor Flitwick]

Well, there go all my arguments against the possibility of Greedo appearing in this series. Ugh! It doesn't make sense at all! I wish they would lay off all that OT-fan service. Most hardcore OT fans don't even watch this show.

Which one is it, though? Greedo the Elder (tPM), or Greedo the Younger (ANH)?

You mean Cham Syndulla? He's not a criminal, he's a freedom fighter, but yeah, I've been wondering that too. Perhaps this episode is before Ambush, but after the first Ryloth trilogy?

So now not even season 1 goes in a straight line?

[Oky]

Which one is it, though? Greedo the Elder (tPM), or Greedo the Younger (ANH)?

I really hope it's the elder, because a Basic-speaking ANH-Greedo in the Clone Wars is just gonna piss people of. As I said before, it's the only thing that would make sense.

[Corvus]

I really hope it's the elder, because a Basic-speaking ANH-Greedo in the Clone Wars is just gonna piss people of. As I said before, it's the only thing that would make sense.

I'm pretty sure it's the ANH-Greedo. The ad was directed to kids- are they really going to know the difference?

Besides, this is a relatively minor change for these guys. They did it for Bossk, so I'm not surprised they did it to Greedo, too.

Kinda funny how all the people who are supposedly senior to Boba all end up being kinda incompetent. Like, say... rash young bounty hunters?

[XimenaPaulina]

You mean Cham Syndulla? He's not a criminal, he's a freedom fighter, but yeah, I've been wondering that too. Perhaps this episode is before Ambush, but after the first Ryloth trilogy?

This is what I think of the storyline:

1. Supply Lines - the Separatist try to invade Ryloth, the Republic sends Di's army to help the Twi'leks, Cham Syndulla helps them - but gets angry and becomes unsure of the Republic's support due to the late help, and hides and becomes guerilla-like warriors.

2. Ambush - what happened in Season 1

3. Ryloth Trilogy - the Republic sends the late aid/support to Ryloth, Mace arrives and tries to get back the support of Syndulla, who eventually helps for the liberation of Ryloth.

The End.

[Darth Jar Jar]

This is what I think of the storyline:

1. Supply Lines - the Separatist try to invade Ryloth, the Republic sends Di's army to help the Twi'leks, Cham Syndulla helps them - but gets angry and becomes unsure of the Republic's support due to the late help, and hides and becomes guerilla-like warriors.

2. Ambush - what happened in Season 1

3. Ryloth Trilogy - the Republic sends the late aid/support to Ryloth, Mace arrives and tries to get back the support of Syndulla, who eventually helps for the liberation of Ryloth.

The End.

I think you got it pretty much right

[Professor Flitwick]

This is what I think of the storyline:

1. Supply Lines - the Separatist try to invade Ryloth, the Republic sends Di's army to help the Twi'leks, Cham Syndulla helps them - but gets angry and becomes unsure of the Republic's support due to the late help, and hides and becomes guerilla-like warriors.

2. Ambush - what happened in Season 1

3. Ryloth Trilogy - the Republic sends the late aid/support to Ryloth, Mace arrives and tries to get back the support of Syndulla, who eventually helps for the liberation of Ryloth.

The End.

Yes, but then why would that Cham Syndula be working with the Republic, if Mace Windu has yet to convince him so? If memory serves me right, the Twi'lek freedom fighter hated the Republic, especially Senator Taa, so why would he fight along side in supply lines?

[XimenaPaulina]

Yes, but then why would that Cham Syndula be working with the Republic, if Mace Windu has yet to convince him so? If memory serves me right, the Twi'lek freedom fighter hated the Republic, especially Senator Taa, so why would he fight along side in supply lines?

First, you could view it as Cham fighting for his people, it just so happened that the Republic helped them (though not full-force help). Would he refuse the help of the Republic when it comes to protecting the lives of his people?

Secondly, the way I view it, Mace was actually trying to get back the support of the disappointed Cham to fight the Separatists for the liberation of Ryloth. It was not established if there was a real negotiation between Cham and the Republic during the first time they fought together in Supply Lines.

Out of curiosity I rewatched the Liberty on Ryloth episode, Cham Syndulla said in that episode (not the exact words): "When the Separatists tried to invade Ryloth, the Republic wasn't able to help us and we were forced to evacuate." Maybe by what Cham said as "the Republic wasn't able to help us", was meant to be "the Republic wasn't able to help us in time", which is what happened in Supply Lines.

I still stand by my understanding of the storyline I stated above.

Edited September 26, 2010 by KielDaMan

[sok117]

First, you could view it as Cham fighting for his people, it just so happened that the Republic helped them (though not full-force help). Would he refuse the help of the Republic when it comes to protecting the lives of his people?

Secondly, the way I view it, Mace was actually trying to get back the support of the disappointed Cham to fight the Separatists for the liberation of Ryloth. It was not established if there was a real negotiation between Cham and the Republic during the first time they fought together in Supply Lines.

Out of curiosity I rewatched the Liberty on Ryloth episode, Cham Syndulla said in that episode (not the exact words): "When the Separatists tried to invade Ryloth, the Republic wasn't able to help us and we were forced to evacuate." Maybe by what Cham said as "the Republic wasn't able to help us", was meant to be "the Republic wasn't able to help us in time", which is what happened in Supply Lines.

I still stand by my understanding of the storyline I stated above.

That mkaes a lot of sense and is definatley plausible, Hats off to you.

[djmangunz]

I have been avoiding this forum like the plague for the past two weeks because I haven't had the chance to see any of the episodes until last night.

I thought that Cadets was perfect, one of the best episodes so far, up there with Rookies and Landing at Point Rain. ARC Troopers seemed rushed but still very entertaining. However it never fails to amaze me how Feloni, who I really like by the way, never seems to take the opportunity to allow the specialized clones to stand out. The senate commandos, who were supposed to be the best of the best, were cannon fodder in other episodes. So were the ARC troopers, who were supposed to be second only to the republic commandos in skill. Commander Colt talked a good game, but in the end, they didn't have him do anything really impressive.

Supply Lines had the story and set-up to be a great episode, but it fell flat. I know they are trying to mix the types of stories up, rather than just having clones fighting all the time. But it was just slow and predictable until the end. It was a let-down after the great episodes we saw the first week.

[Brickdoctor]

I'm pretty sure it's the ANH-Greedo. The ad was directed to kids- are they really going to know the difference?

Besides, this is a relatively minor change for these guys. They did it for Bossk, so I'm not surprised they did it to Greedo, too.

Kinda funny how all the people who are supposedly senior to Boba all end up being kinda incompetent. Like, say... rash young bounty hunters?

I'm pretty sure Wookieepedia lists it as Greedo the Elder.

[Corvus]

I thought that Cadets was perfect, one of the best episodes so far, up there with Rookies and Landing at Point Rain. ARC Troopers seemed rushed but still very entertaining. However it never fails to amaze me how Feloni, who I really like by the way, never seems to take the opportunity to allow the specialized clones to stand out. The senate commandos, who were supposed to be the best of the best, were cannon fodder in other episodes. So were the ARC troopers, who were supposed to be second only to the republic commandos in skill. Commander Colt talked a good game, but in the end, they didn't have him do anything really impressive.

The senate commandos aren't clones, but still, they're supposed to be good. You pretty much sum up my opinions on this.

Supply Lines had the story and set-up to be a great episode, but it fell flat. I know they are trying to mix the types of stories up, rather than just having clones fighting all the time. But it was just slow and predictable until the end. It was a let-down after the great episodes we saw the first week.

I think it had huge potential. The problem was that they took a serious episode and threw Jar-Jar into it, which completely ruined the mood of the story.

I think even the fighting scenes have variation. For example, this one. Master Di was a really neat character. He seems like much more of a plausible Jedi to me than others such as Anakin or Ahsoka. He was completely selfless going into the battle, and I thought it was a shame to kill him off.

Still, even though I thought the last stand was touching, it was kind of weak. Killi (like djmangunz mentioned above) wasn't really impressive, unless you consider duel-wielding impressive.

I guess I was expecting a Force Unleashed moment for Di at the end.

[djmangunz]

Good catch on the Senate Commandos not being clones, but you know what I am saying. The dudes who are supposed to be very talented seem to perform like the ordinary grunts. What is the point of having an ARC trooper if he has low-level abilities on the battlefield? Now, I have high hopes for the commandos. But it doesn't sound like they have much of a role in their first appearance. Here is hoping that Dave Feloni will take notice of the fan's interest in them, which it sounds like he has, and puts them in more episodes with a greater presence.

[Oky]

First, you could view it as Cham fighting for his people, it just so happened that the Republic helped them (though not full-force help). Would he refuse the help of the Republic when it comes to protecting the lives of his people?

Secondly, the way I view it, Mace was actually trying to get back the support of the disappointed Cham to fight the Separatists for the liberation of Ryloth. It was not established if there was a real negotiation between Cham and the Republic during the first time they fought together in Supply Lines.

Out of curiosity I rewatched the Liberty on Ryloth episode, Cham Syndulla said in that episode (not the exact words): "When the Separatists tried to invade Ryloth, the Republic wasn't able to help us and we were forced to evacuate." Maybe by what Cham said as "the Republic wasn't able to help us", was meant to be "the Republic wasn't able to help us in time", which is what happened in Supply Lines.

The Republic did help in the end though, so there wouldn't really be a reason for Cham to quit his affiliation with the Republic, but I get what you're saying, and your theory is probably the one that makes most sense right now.

I hate how they keep creating more questions rather than answering any. I fear this show will end up like "LOST" and leave all the EU writers to retcon all the facts they have messed up.

Feloni, who I really like by the way

You like him? Then why do you keep calling him "Felony"? I thought it was supposed to be a clever, cynic nickname referencing his crimes against the EU. So, it's just a typo then?

I'm pretty sure Wookieepedia lists it as Greedo the Elder.

Perhaps it was changed since you posted this, but right now it links to the ANH Greedo.

By the way, when I followed the link, I was very amused to see this at the top of the page!

Edited September 26, 2010 by Oky Wan Kenobi

[ADHO15]

However it never fails to amaze me how Feloni, who I really like by the way, never seems to take the opportunity to allow the specialized clones to stand out. The senate commandos, who were supposed to be the best of the best, were cannon fodder in other episodes. So were the ARC troopers, who were supposed to be second only to the republic commandos in skill. Commander Colt talked a good game, but in the end, they didn't have him do anything really impressive.

I know what you mean. They're often the last clone troopers to survive in a small group, but it doesn't show them as being especially skilled.

I think even the fighting scenes have variation. For example, this one. Master Di was a really neat character. He seems like much more of a plausible Jedi to me than others such as Anakin or Ahsoka. He was completely selfless going into the battle, and I thought it was a shame to kill him off.

Just because he's dead doesn't mean we won't see him again, especially with the timeline being thrown around like it has been lately.

I know the chances of him returning are very slim, but it's the principle that I'm getting at.

By the way, when I followed the link, I was very amused to see this at the top of the page!

You mean the banner? They have those on loads of articles, such as "I find your lack of sources disturbing".

Edited September 26, 2010 by ADHO15

[Oky]

You mean the banner? They have those on loads of articles, such as "I find your lack of sources disturbing".

I know, but the fact that it said "Oky" instead of "Obi" was hilarious to me.