Pic Request: 7094 & 7946 Side by Side

[UsernameMDM]

Does anyone currently have both of these sets built per instructions (not moc'ed or customized in anyway) that could supply some side by side comparison shots (front, sides, back, top-down, minifigs, accessories, etc)?

Thanks in advance.

Edited May 24, 2010 by UsernameMDM

[metalandi]

I would really like to see that aswell. The 2 castles have a pretty similar shape partly, and i always think of them belonging in the same timeframe and medieval "world".

[legitimatealex]

I've got 7094 but if you want to buy me 7946 that would be alright with me : )

I know what you're looking for though...The castles are pretty similar, minus a few or more new pieces here and there. I'm a huge castle fan but I'm not touching King's Castle because it is way too similar to to Castle Siege.

[metalandi]

I agree that it is similar, but it's still very different. The new castle has a gatehouse, while the "old" one doesn't have one at all. Then, the newer one has a big tower with roof on the right back side and another tower on the left side, while on the older one the second tower is in the middle of the back side. I agree it is built with the same "style", but calling it "very similar", i wouldn't go that far. Actually from the overall look it reminds me much more of a combination of these 2 sets (plus modern elements added as gold colours and cheese slopes):

[Spyder]

While they seem similar in some ways, I think they're actually quite different.

Building style, color scheme to name a couple of different things.

If the two were to face off against each other, I'd put my bet on 7946.

Anyways, they wouldn't relly look that good next to or connected with each other, you'd need alot of MODing. (just my opinion)

[squiz]

I agree that it is similar, but it's still very different. The new castle has a gatehouse, while the "old" one doesn't have one at all. Then, the newer one has a big tower with roof on the right back side and another tower on the left side, while on the older one the second tower is in the middle of the back side. I agree it is built with the same "style", but calling it "very similar", i wouldn't go that far. Actually from the overall look it reminds me much more of a combination of these 2 sets (plus modern elements added as gold colours and cheese slopes):

i agree, thats why i really love 7946 as its a modern take on the classic castles.

[UsernameMDM]

Thanks to Count Blacktron over at Classic Castle:

That looks like a huge difference, especially when you consider that 7094 KCS has 920 pieces, 10 minifigs (3 with breastplate armor), a dragon, and a barded horse vs 7946 KC with 933 pieces, 8 minifigs (2 with breastplate armor) and a barded horse.

[metalandi]

Thanks a lot for the pictures! I would have never imagined the new one is so much smaller, i thought they were about the same size Btwl. you made a mistake, 7094 has 973 pieces, while 7946 has 933. Only a difference of 40, but the new one looks quite smaller.

[UsernameMDM]

Btwl. you made a mistake, 7094 has 973 pieces, while 7946 has 933. Only a difference of 40, but the new one looks quite smaller.

I got 920 from BL and the 933 from Lego. I forget that BL only counts bricks, etc as pieces while Lego counts minifig parts as well. Thanks for the correction.

[Sandy]

Thanks for the pics! I was surprised about the difference in size as well, but I can see that the new castle has clearly sacrificed size in place of details. Even though the piece count isn't that different between the two sets, the new castle has much smaller pieces in average than the King's Castle Siege.

On the other side, aside from the roofs and the shields, the two castles have quite a similar colorscheme, so you can easily merge the two into one huge castle if you want to.

[Sir Dillon]

7094 seems to have generally larger parts than 7946, particularly the change from the 5 x 6 panels to the 4 x 6 panels. I prefer the new 4 wide panels, but as a result of the switch we get a smaller castle using roughly the same amount of parts.

[Hewman]

Does anyone currently have both of these sets built per instructions (not moc'ed or customized in anyway) that could supply some side by side comparison shots (front, sides, back, top-down, minifigs, accessories, etc)?

Thanks in advance.

thanks for asking this, a great question

Thanks a lot for the pictures! I would have never imagined the new one is so much smaller, i thought they were about the same size Btwl. you made a mistake, 7094 has 973 pieces, while 7946 has 933. Only a difference of 40, but the new one looks quite smaller.

I always find it interesting that people talk of piece counts to compare set sizes (I guess this is because Lego like advertising them all over the boxes). Anyway, I like to go by weight, and in this case bricklink lists 7946 as 1.97 kilos while the 7094 is 2.66 kilos, so that's why there's such a huge difference. Besides some bigger wall pieces as mentioned before there are also a lot of small pieces in 7946, ie 64 light grey 1 x 1 bricks, and 20 red cheese slopes (these slopes look nice but add nothing to the size).

Anyway, I'm very glad I own the 7094 but I think I'll pass on the 7946.

[metalandi]

I also got the new castle recently, so i took some comparison pictures asdwell. I myself like both castles pretty much equally i think. Each one has it's positives and negatives. For example, i really like the back wall of the "older" one, but i like the overall design more from the new one. The older one also seems a bit too "cramped" sometimes, with all the gold pieces and the old fire pieces, which i like less than the newer ones. On the opposite again, i don't like that the room in the left tower in the new castle is completely empty, though that can easily be changed.

[Artifex]

I also got the new castle recently, so i took some comparison pictures asdwell. I myself like both castles pretty much equally i think. Each one has it's positives and negatives. For example, i really like the back wall of the "older" one, but i like the overall design more from the new one. The older one also seems a bit too "cramped" sometimes, with all the gold pieces and the old fire pieces, which i like less than the newer ones. On the opposite again, i don't like that the room in the left tower in the new castle is completely empty, though that can easily be changed.

Having all flags from one castle to one side and the ones of the other castle to the other side was a nice touch

[metalandi]

That's just because i always build everything EXACTLY after the instructions.

[Artifex]

That's just because i always build everything EXACTLY after the instructions.

LOL!

[metalandi]

I occasionally change things later on, but always when i get a new set i have to place everything exactly how it's shown in the instructions, even the smallest details you could imagine. I guess it comes from my original occupation where i had to read technical drawings and such.

[Artifex]

I occasionally change things later on, but always when i get a new set i have to place everything exactly how it's shown in the instructions, even the smallest details you could imagine. I guess it comes from my original occupation where i had to read technical drawings and such.

Really? What do you do?

[metalandi]

I was a toolmaker originally. But that's pretty much off-topic.

[Don Cristo]

  7094 or 7946?

  To begin with, I must warn you I was a real freak of the Fantasy LEGO Castle era. Orcs, Elves, Dwarves, Trolls and Hobbits have triggered my imagination for many years. The Lord of the Rings is one of my fave books series. I was therefore not quite happy to learn TLC was dropping the theme to go back to the roots. The first pictures of the Kingdoms sets did not convince me. Slowly but surely, I changed my mind. I am not of those who wished for Elves to be LEGOised. I can't imagine how they'd have produced ears for them. We can then live without Hobbits... and make them with 1x2 bricks or child legs. They'd be the same size as Dwarves, but you can't expect minifigs to be that accurate, can you?

  Then news on forums and on the LEGO site showed the new theme had potential: no dragons anymore, back to the old-school fights between human armies. Greens vs. Reds, or the contrary. A 7946 castle very similar to my beloved 6080, with which I played for hours as a child. Similar, but more detailed. A modern version of it, if you will. Well, I really don't like the red roof (why did they not use another colour?). But the rest is just fine. An excellent introduction to castles. If it wasn't for its midget size. Admit it: it is quite small. The first time I saw the 7094 in a shop, I thought the size did not reflect the price. It is worse with the new 7946! Nevertheless, you can't pretend it's not worth it. Anyway, a few minifigs more would have been an acceptable deal.

  Thank you, Metalandi, for taking a picture of the side by side castles. They do work together pretty well. Let us now wait for a dark green-roofed castle to be released.

  IMO, old 5x6 panels were better than the current 4x6. First of all, they of course made sets bigger. But the main reason why I prefer the old ones is because you needed to attach them with 1x2 bricks. More building and more pieces held together made it more realistic and allowed you to build more complicated structures (I'm talking about real builders, not myself). Panels have always been seen as big ugly pieces. Giving them a rectangular shape do not make it much better. I'm still wondering why the stopped producing the old ones.

  So, 7094 or 7946? Of course, both if you can. I would recommend to buy the 7094 first, since it has more pieces and features and is getting harder to find - or more expensive than it used to be. And then buy the 7946, so that both armies have their headquarters. Problem solved.

[metalandi]

wile we're at comparing castles..what about a comparison shot from the new castle and 6080 king's castle? I think that'd be interesting aswell, since the whole shape of the new one seems to resamble the old King's Castle.

Edited June 9, 2010 by metalandi

[Artifex]

wile we're at comparing castles..what about a comparison shot from the new castle 6080? I think that'd be interesting aswell, since the whole shape of the new one seems to resamble the old King's Castle.

/signed

[BrickClick]

I occasionally change things later on, but always when i get a new set i have to place everything exactly how it's shown in the instructions, even the smallest details you could imagine. I guess it comes from my original occupation where i had to read technical drawings and such.

Me too!

Exept for the technical drawings stuff...

If a peice falls of a set I search around the ''LEGO room'' until I find it and don't leave till I do!

Edited June 9, 2010 by BrickClick

[NorthernKnight]

   Panels have always been seen as big ugly pieces. Giving them a rectangular shape do not make it much better. I'm still wondering why the stopped producing the old ones.

This is probably because it is a lot easier for children to use a rectangular piece, just put them in a line and you got a wall. if you do that with the old ones it looks crappy.

[The Green Brick Giant]

Wow that is so much smaller, wow....

I'm glad I got the last one then, awesome set after some small Mods to the towers.