Brickdoctor Posted November 19, 2011 Posted November 19, 2011 Were you guys always signed up to host? I feel like I'm just hearing about this now. If you mean under Future Hosts in the index, no, they're a new addition as far as I know.
Rick Posted November 20, 2011 Posted November 20, 2011 Were you guys always signed up to host? I feel like I'm just hearing about this now. And, you'd like to have heard about it... when? As far as I know the procedure is still that potential hosts contact the Games moderator, who then decides on the hosting order when the game is approved.
sok117 Posted November 20, 2011 Posted November 20, 2011 Well I contacted Draggy wanting to host a mafia game like a year ago, and I asked him again about it maybe 4 weeks ago and hes hasn't said anything to me. I'm not saying I can make a better game and that I should get to go first or whatever, I'm just thinking it's a bit unfair that you just get bumped like that.
Dragonator Posted November 21, 2011 Author Posted November 21, 2011 Generally, if a game proposal is well presented and gives me confidence that the game will be fun and enjoyable for people to play, I will approve it. Pandora and Rufus presented a fresh, new idea that sounds really exciting and fun. A vague idea for a SW game with no pictures does not really grab my attention. I should also note that I get a request to host a SW themed game at least once every couple of months. I also like to look for some commitment from hosts. Considering you haven't volunteered for a game since April Sok, I assumed you must have lost interest. If you read the requirements for hosting that are clearly stated in the Mafia index, then you can see where I am coming from. Hopefully that clears up any concerns you had.
sok117 Posted November 21, 2011 Posted November 21, 2011 Generally, if a game proposal is well presented and gives me confidence that the game will be fun and enjoyable for people to play, I will approve it. Pandora and Rufus presented a fresh, new idea that sounds really exciting and fun. A vague idea for a SW game with no pictures does not really grab my attention. I should also note that I get a request to host a SW themed game at least once every couple of months. Well, I agree that you present fair points, but when you originally replied to my request, you said you would put me on a pending list and when asked recently about it, you haven't replied to me. I guess the only way to be able to host a mafia game is to present a half-decent photoshopped teaser image. Well, thats been duly noted. Off to Photoshop!
def Posted November 21, 2011 Posted November 21, 2011 Well, I agree that you present fair points, but when you originally replied to my request, you said you would put me on a pending list and when asked recently about it, you haven't replied to me. I guess the only way to be able to host a mafia game is to present a half-decent photoshopped teaser image. Well, thats been duly noted. Off to Photoshop! I can tell you that when I hosted the first time, there was a lot more to my proposal than simply a Photoshopped image. I had a story synopses, a list of the number of players, key features to make my game stand out, photos of some of the MOCs I'd be using.... There was a lot to it, so there's no need to be snippy about it.
sok117 Posted November 22, 2011 Posted November 22, 2011 I can tell you that when I hosted the first time, there was a lot more to my proposal than simply a Photoshopped image. I had a story synopses, a list of the number of players, key features to make my game stand out, photos of some of the MOCs I'd be using.... There was a lot to it, so there's no need to be snippy about it. Well, the Mafia Index just says a game summary, that made me think of just a summary of what kind of game you would like to host. I simply said a Star Wars mafia, and gave a paragraph or so about the premise of the game. Perhaps the "Hosting a Mafia" part of the index could be changed to better highlight what is to be expected in a "Game Summary" as Def listed above. It may help to change up the hosts, and weed out the committed from the pool of requests you (Draggy) get every month or so. Just a suggestion. (And I apologize for snippyness (), just a bit frustrated thats all )
WhiteFang Posted November 22, 2011 Posted November 22, 2011 Well, the Mafia Index just says a game summary, that made me think of just a summary of what kind of game you would like to host. I simply said a Star Wars mafia, and gave a paragraph or so about the premise of the game. Perhaps the "Hosting a Mafia" part of the index could be changed to better highlight what is to be expected in a "Game Summary" as Def listed above. It may help to change up the hosts, and weed out the committed from the pool of requests you (Draggy) get every month or so. Just a suggestion. As what def had mentioned, hosting a mafia game is not about putting up a teaser with photoshop image with a summarised story plot. You got to brief your entire game plan to Dragonator. You can choose to tell him how your whole game works for his vetting and disallowed him from playing your game. If you will like him to play, you have to convince to him that you are ready and prepared all of the relevant roles, rules, scenarios, actions, etc. I am sure he will use his checklist to ensure that it is covered well.
CMP Posted November 22, 2011 Posted November 22, 2011 I am sure he will use his checklist to ensure that it is covered well. Wouldn't it be prudent to post so it so that people can use it before pitching the idea?
WhiteFang Posted November 22, 2011 Posted November 22, 2011 Wouldn't it be prudent to post so it so that people can use it before pitching the idea? EB members who are interested to host a Mafia game will have to approach Dragonator personally and from there, he will use his checklist to check the readiness and preparedness of the Mafia game which the member had done and interested to host through his/her submission.
CMP Posted November 22, 2011 Posted November 22, 2011 EB members who are interested to host a Mafia game will have to approach Dragonator personally and from there, he will use his checklist to check the readiness and preparedness of the Mafia game which the member had done and interested to host through his/her submission. Yes, but wouldn't it help them to prepare, knowing what they should have laid out, ready to send to Dragonator?
WhiteFang Posted November 22, 2011 Posted November 22, 2011 Yes, but wouldn't it help them to prepare, knowing what they should have laid out, ready to send to Dragonator? The checklist from what I understands, is his own way of ensuring that the quality of the game is not compromised. Of course, before sending any form of hosting of games, the person ought to participate in a number of mafia games of both sides to understand the mechanics. Surely, this is the basics of it. It's not just about putting some photoshopped images and a story plot together. What you need to offer, is like the preparation of what the mafia game objective and if there is any twist. Is there any balance in your sides? Draggy may not ask all of it at one go, but that is the job of the host to prepare and send for vetting and he will offer feedback from there. Obviously, he might not be aware of everything especially if he is interested to play, but still, the amount of players, roles, plot, etc must all be present. In short, send the game proposal first to Dragonator for vetting and include the game set up without revealing too much of it but at the same time, show that you had a concise proper structure in it without imbalance of powers.
XimenaPaulina Posted November 22, 2011 Posted November 22, 2011 If I may chip in my 2 cents here, I think pitching to be a host is not a matter of being the "first one in line" but it depends on one's overall preparedness. I'm pretty sure Rufus and Pandora went beyond the "Game Summary" stated in the Games Index when they approached Draggy. I think they came well-prepared, armed with all the required elements (game summary, teaser image, number of characters - probably even the specific names and looks of the characters, MOC settings, roles, unique features, balance of the game, etc) to present to Draggy. It's like if you're a Salesman, you certainly won't go to your customer and just say "Hey, this is my product and this is what it's supposed to do, though I don't have any more details to tell you so would you pls. buy my stuff?". Yes, the Mafia Index could be improved with that suggestion, but what separates potential good hosts from the wannabees is the ability to recognize the essentials of the game and include them on the proposal which will definitely show one's keen interest and dedication to being a mafia or any other game host.
CMP Posted November 22, 2011 Posted November 22, 2011 Of course, before sending any form of hosting of games, the person ought to participate in a number of mafia games of both sides to understand the mechanics. Surely, this is the basics of it. It's not just about putting some photoshopped images and a story plot together. What you need to offer, is like the preparation of what the mafia game objective and if there is any twist. Is there any balance in your sides? Draggy may not ask all of it at one go, but that is the job of the host to prepare and send for vetting and he will offer feedback from there. Obviously, he might not be aware of everything especially if he is interested to play, but still, the amount of players, roles, plot, etc must all be present. That's exactly what should be in the top post. You basically pointed out everything you need to send in for a game to get considered. I'm saying you should just describe what's looked for in a mafia game request. From what I see for now, it just says 'describe the plot without any twists and be prepared to invest a lot of time into it.' Surely it couldn't be a little bit more specific for prospective hosts? Oh, and no, I myself isn't planning a game, if that's what you mean. I'm just saying it could be helpful for those who are.
XimenaPaulina Posted November 22, 2011 Posted November 22, 2011 I'm saying you should just describe what's looked for in a mafia game request. From what I see for now, it just says 'describe the plot without any twists and be prepared to invest a lot of time into it.' Surely it couldn't be a little bit more specific for prospective hosts? Like what I've said: ...what separates potential good hosts from the wannabees is the ability to recognize the essentials of the game and including them on the proposal which will definitely show one's keen interest and dedication to being a mafia or any other game host. Those type of info need not be spoon-fed to aspiring hosts. I think it's common knowledge that a good proposal covers all of the game essentials, which I assume an applicant host should be very aware of if he has already played a significant amount of games before.
WhiteFang Posted November 22, 2011 Posted November 22, 2011 Those type of info need not be spoon-fed to aspiring hosts. I think it's common knowledge that a good proposal covers all of the game essentials, which I assume an applicant host should be very aware of if he has already played a significant amount of games before. Thank you.
Hinckley Posted November 26, 2011 Posted November 26, 2011 Well, I agree that you present fair points, but when you originally replied to my request, you said you would put me on a pending list and when asked recently about it, you haven't replied to me. I guess the only way to be able to host a mafia game is to present a half-decent photoshopped teaser image. Well, thats been duly noted. Off to Photoshop! I think Kiel put it best already, but I would like to add that although Dragonator is busy with school, this is his forum and although he may have missed one of your messages, you do have his attention now, so perhaps the conversation about how to become a host, based solely on your current application, is best to be had with him in private. As Kiel and def have pointed out, there's a lot more than photoshopping a nice image. I would suggest discussing the finer points of your application and game plan with Dragonator in private as opposed to being snarky with him in public. You get more dragons with sugar than with spears. Wait, what? If you are unhappy with his response time or lack of feedback, let him know. He's a reasonable guy and I'm sure he can have an honest conversation about it. If you are unhappy, please go to another staff member and they can try to mediate something between you too. The best way to host is to respect the dragon. I really hate those emoticons.
Scouty Posted November 27, 2011 Posted November 27, 2011 I really hate those emoticons. Don't blame me, I had nothing to do with that
CMP Posted November 27, 2011 Posted November 27, 2011 Don't blame me, I had nothing to do with that They're not horrible, I just don't see why they're here. I guess they kind of resemble the LEGO Dragon, but...
RileyC Posted December 14, 2011 Posted December 14, 2011 So now that Gotham City Mafia has now ended, when is Rufus and Pandora's game going to be occuring? Soon? I'm itching to try again at another mafia game!
def Posted December 14, 2011 Posted December 14, 2011 So now that Gotham City Mafia has now ended, when is Rufus and Pandora's game going to be occuring? Soon? I'm itching to try again at another mafia game! Riley? Who's that? As far as I know, mafia is taking a break until New Year's. I was thinking of whipping up a mini-Bethlehem mafia to fill in the gap, but then I figured I need a little break from hosting
Pandora Posted December 14, 2011 Posted December 14, 2011 So now that Gotham City Mafia has now ended, when is Rufus and Pandora's game going to be occuring? Soon? I'm itching to try again at another mafia game! As far as I know, mafia is taking a break until New Year's. Absolutely; the Holiday season is a busy time of year for a lot of people (us included) so we're planning to post sign-ups early in the New Year. It's only a couple of weeks away, and it means that hopefully people won't have too many other commitments.
RileyC Posted December 14, 2011 Posted December 14, 2011 Riley? Who's that? It's the Roncanator, I changed my name a couple of months back. Absolutely; the Holiday season is a busy time of year for a lot of people (us included) so we're planning to post sign-ups early in the New Year. It's only a couple of weeks away, and it means that hopefully people won't have too many other commitments. Cool thanks for the quick reply Pandora! Early next year is a good time to and will start the new year off with a bang!
Tamamono Posted December 14, 2011 Posted December 14, 2011 Absolutely; the Holiday season is a busy time of year for a lot of people (us included) so we're planning to post sign-ups early in the New Year. It's only a couple of weeks away, and it means that hopefully people won't have too many other commitments. I agree, the Holiday season is a busy time of year, so it's probably best if mafia was put on hold until New Years. In any case, I'll be looking forward to the game!
Flipz Posted December 16, 2011 Posted December 16, 2011 Is a Mafia School scheduled for January? :hopeful:
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