Klaus-Dieter Posted January 10, 2010 Posted January 10, 2010 Again about 10212: Since an Endor Luke minifig and an Imp. Officer minifig is included in this set it would imo make no sense if the set would be an UCS Imp. Shuttle without base. So I can well imagine it looking like this: -four big round pillars with the platform on top -platform with some lights, a big antenna, some cargo stuff standing around -on the platform the Imp. Shuttle (bigger and more detailed version, but no UCS version) with Imp. Shuttle Pilot inside the cockpit, Vader leaving the gateway of the shuttle and a Stormie waiting for him -beneath the platform on half the height to the ground a balcony connecting the four pillars -on the balcony Endor Luke with handcuffs, a Stormie and the Imp. Officer carrying Luke's lightsaber What do you think? Klaus-Dieter Quote
The Legonater Posted January 10, 2010 Posted January 10, 2010 Honestly they look about the same. One part of the old one is bigger, but the new one only seems to have about 50 more pieces. Thanks though! Of course they're the same, its the EXSACT SAME SHIP!!! Quote
KimT Posted January 10, 2010 Author Posted January 10, 2010 Of course they're the same, its the EXSACT SAME SHIP!!! What's that suppose to mean? Are you being a wise-guy? Exact, in which manner? - same LEGO design or same ship? (Star Wars). Quote
Mission Commander Posted January 10, 2010 Posted January 10, 2010 Again about 10212:Since an Endor Luke minifig and an Imp. Officer minifig is included in this set it would imo make no sense if the set would be an UCS Imp. Shuttle without base. So I can well imagine it looking like this: -four big round pillars with the platform on top -platform with some lights, a big antenna, some cargo stuff standing around -on the platform the Imp. Shuttle (bigger and more detailed version, but no UCS version) with Imp. Shuttle Pilot inside the cockpit, Vader leaving the gateway of the shuttle and a Stormie waiting for him -beneath the platform on half the height to the ground a balcony connecting the four pillars -on the balcony Endor Luke with handcuffs, a Stormie and the Imp. Officer carrying Luke's lightsaber What do you think? Klaus-Dieter I think it will be a UCS Minifig Scale imp. shuttle! Like the UCS Falcon it will be scaled to minifig size. I hope it includes an interior though. Quote
The Who Posted January 10, 2010 Posted January 10, 2010 Again about 10212:Since an Endor Luke minifig and an Imp. Officer minifig is included in this set it would imo make no sense if the set would be an UCS Imp. Shuttle without base. So I can well imagine it looking like this: -four big round pillars with the platform on top -platform with some lights, a big antenna, some cargo stuff standing around What do you think? It would be nice, but if the ship is already UCS, I doubt there would be a platform, especially one with pillars holding it up. I welcome anybody to prove me wrong though with photo evidence.What's that suppose to mean?Are you being a wise-guy? Exact, in which manner? - same LEGO design or same ship? (Star Wars). I think he means they are the same (set design) because they are the same ship (in the Star Wars Universe). Quote
Millacol88 Posted January 10, 2010 Posted January 10, 2010 I think it will be a UCS Minifig Scale imp. shuttle! Like the UCS Falcon it will be scaled to minifig size. I hope it includes an interior though. I'm sorry if I'm not completely caught up with this thread, but have we settled what kind of shuttle this is? I would think that Lambda class would make sense. If it is a Lambda, then by some quick math: If we assume that an average height is around 1.7 meters, then 1.7 meters = the height of a minifigure (three bricks). The real ship is 20 meters long according to the link I have above, so 20/1.7 gives us how many minifigures long the ship is. 20/1.7 = 11.76 11.76 x 3 gives us the length in bricks: 35.29 6/5 x 35.29 = 42 studs and change So, if it is true minifig scale, it will be quite large, but certainly possible. Quote
Rufus Posted January 10, 2010 Posted January 10, 2010 I think it will be a UCS Minifig Scale imp. shuttle! Like the UCS Falcon it will be scaled to minifig size. I hope it includes an interior though. I sincerely hope they don't use the inclusion of a base as an excuse just to rehash the two previous shuttles. I'd much rather a stand-alone, detailed shuttle than another of those. I can't see them producing a big detailed shuttle and a base. If it is UCS, it won't be to scale with the UCS Falcon. Lamba shuttles have massive wings! Quote
Lt. Veers Posted January 10, 2010 Posted January 10, 2010 I was thinking about the Imperial Shuttle, and I got an idea - is it at all possible that there would be a Death Star style Landing pad, as opposed to an Endor one? I think it would make more sense, seeing as the one of the potential figures is an Imperial Officer. Quote
Millacol88 Posted January 10, 2010 Posted January 10, 2010 I was thinking about the Imperial Shuttle, and I got an idea - is it at all possible that there would be a Death Star style Landing pad, as opposed to an Endor one? I think it would make more sense, seeing as the one of the potential figures is an Imperial Officer. I guess it's possible, but like Rufus I would prefer a large fig-scale ship on a stand rather than a rehash of the three system scale shuttles we've had, with the addition of a base. Although, I'm thinking more and more that that's what we're getting, as we've already got the one large exclusive set for 2010 (the AT-AT), which is almost certainly a UCS. I can't imagine having two "mega" sets in the second half of the year. Quote
Clone OPatra Posted January 10, 2010 Posted January 10, 2010 I think it would make more sense, seeing as the one of the potential figures is an Imperial Officer. Yes, but Imperial Officers were on Endor and Luke gave himself up to an Imperial Officer on Endor, so it doesn't make more sense that it'd be on the Death Star just because there's an officer. Besides, you never actually see Luke getting off an Imperial Shuttle on the Death Star, so I think it's much more likely that LEGO will make a scene that is actually in the movie, set on Endor. I don't think this set will have the large towering platform on four pillars, it would just be too big and too useless really. Unless they went with some new big pieces it would take a lot of bricks to build pillars of a good size, and there would be no point to them. I find it much more likely that we would get a shuttle, flat platform, and corridor to reenact where Luke is handed over to Vader. Quote
Lt. Veers Posted January 10, 2010 Posted January 10, 2010 Yes, but Imperial Officers were on Endor and Luke gave himself up to an Imperial Officer on Endor, so it doesn't make more sense that it'd be on the Death Star just because there's an officer. Besides, you never actually see Luke getting off an Imperial Shuttle on the Death Star, so I think it's much more likely that LEGO will make a scene that is actually in the movie, set on Endor. You make a fair point, I was just putting an idea out there. I suppose we'll learn the truth in a month or two. Quote
Klaus-Dieter Posted January 10, 2010 Posted January 10, 2010 (edited) It would be nice, but if the ship is already UCS, I doubt there would be a platform, especially one with pillars holding it up. You're right, The Who. Of course 10212 will be either an UCS set - namely the shuttle on its own - or a non-UCS set - namely the shuttle (non-UCS) with the base. But even if we get the shuttle with the base I'm sure that the new shuttle will be (like all redesigned vehicles of the last years) much bigger and detailed. I don't think this set will have the large towering platform on four pillars, it would just be too big and too useless really. Unless they went with some new big pieces it would take a lot of bricks to build pillars of a good size, and there would be no point to them. I find it much more likely that we would get a shuttle, flat platform, and corridor to reenact where Luke is handed over to Vader. In this point I totally agree with you, Cone O'Patra! I already thought about how stable the platform would be when constructed on tall pillars. But the idea of having a platform and a seperate corridor sounds really good and realistic. Btw: Not only the fact that 10212 include Endor Luke and an Imp. Officer - which would make in an UCS Imp. Shuttle no sense - but even the fact that there are lightsabers included (which "raise the playability") speak for 10212 being no UCS set. And that the new AT-AT is Endor based is imo more than a hint that there has to be one more episode 6 set. Otherwise Hoth based would make much more sense. Klaus-Dieter Edited January 10, 2010 by Klaus-Dieter Quote
Rufus Posted January 10, 2010 Posted January 10, 2010 The more I think about it, the more I think a larger-scale shuttle, without platform, is more likely. Its number is 10212; all the SW 10xxx sets have been UCS or large system-scale models like the motorised AT-AT or the Tantive IV. The recent large diorama/playsets (Endor battle, Home One) have had 'ordinary' numbers. The exception is the Cloud City set, so anything's possible, I suppose... Quote
brickme Posted January 10, 2010 Posted January 10, 2010 You guys make such a big fuss about everything as rufus said it will probably be a UCS set since the number is in the 10--- range. The set will probably be an exclusive because we have not dug up even the slightest picture on it yet. Toyfair is soon FBTB has great coverage and we'll probably see 10212 there. Quote
RileyC Posted January 10, 2010 Posted January 10, 2010 Im guessing it will be around the same size as the Tantive with an interior with minifigs. It is the trend 10xxx sets have been following of late and I dont think it will change. Quote
Cloney Posted January 11, 2010 Posted January 11, 2010 (edited) For the Clone Turbo Tank, I really hope that Aayla Secura would be similar to this: http://lego.wikia.com/wiki/File:2861637321_66840fb70f.jpg Edited January 11, 2010 by Cloney Quote
DashIngG Posted January 11, 2010 Posted January 11, 2010 For the Clone Turbo Tank, I really hope that Aayla Secura would be similar to this: http://lego.wikia.com/wiki/File:2861637321_66840fb70f.jpg I think they'll choose the easy way and print the helmet/cap on the head mold. Quote
Millacol88 Posted January 11, 2010 Posted January 11, 2010 I think they'll choose the easy way and print the helmet/cap on the head mold. IMO that woudn't look very good. They're already going to the trouble of moulding the "tentacles", why not make it one piece? Quote
-JD- Posted January 11, 2010 Posted January 11, 2010 IMO that woudn't look very good. They're already going to the trouble of moulding the "tentacles", why not make it one piece? Probably. Kit would have looked good with a head and seperate tentacles too. Quote
Darth Legolas Posted January 11, 2010 Posted January 11, 2010 I think it will be a UCS Minifig Scale imp. shuttle! Like the UCS Falcon it will be scaled to minifig size. I hope it includes an interior though. I still trust rockinkurt. I don't know why everyone disregards him completely just because he types really badly. I don't know, but most of the things he said so far came true, weather he was true about the source or not. The more I think about it, the more I think a larger-scale shuttle, without platform, is more likely. Its number is 10212; all the SW 10xxx sets have been UCS or large system-scale models like the motorised AT-AT or the Tantive IV. The recent large diorama/playsets (Endor battle, Home One) have had 'ordinary' numbers.The exception is the Cloud City set, so anything's possible, I suppose... On the other side, I don't understand why everyone's so sure that it's a UCS Lambda. Could they not be the minifigs of an Endor AT-AT, plus an AT-AT Pilot or two? I think they'll choose the easy way and print the helmet/cap on the head mold. I think the head will come in two pieces. The top part "hair" will be her head tails with a molded band that might descend a little over the forehead. It will probably be molded but not it's own piece. The bottom part will be a normal minifig head. Quote
-JD- Posted January 11, 2010 Posted January 11, 2010 (edited) I think the head will come in two pieces. The top part "hair" will be her head tails with a molded band that might descend a little over the forehead. It will probably be molded but not it's own piece. The bottom part will be a normal minifig head. I just noticed that if you look closely at her figure image, you can see her printed head with the tenacles on top. Surely if it was one moulded peice, they would have her whole head in white? Anyway, Ahsoka has two parts for her head too, and that works perfectly! Edited January 11, 2010 by Jammiedodger714 Quote
ADHO15 Posted January 11, 2010 Posted January 11, 2010 "tentacles" tentacles The top part "hair" will be her head tails Lekku. Probably. Kit would have looked good with a head and seperate tentacles too. I disagree. I think Kit's head was smooth and undisturbed by bumps or headgear, and LEGO captured that perfectly with a single, rubbery mould. Aayla has headgear right round her head, which would make it easier for LEGO to make the headpiece separate from a normal head. I guess we'll just have to wait and see which option they go for. Quote
Darth Legolas Posted January 11, 2010 Posted January 11, 2010 Lekku. I disagree. I think Kit's head was smooth and undisturbed by bumps or headgear, and LEGO captured that perfectly with a single, rubbery mould. Aayla has headgear right round her head, which would make it easier for LEGO to make the headpiece separate from a normal head. I guess we'll just have to wait and see which option they go for. I was referring to them in Lego piece terms. I'm surprised you didn't mention brain tails. From the prototype picture they seems to be two separate pieces, but that may just be a placeholder. Maybe Lego will just take Arealights design and pay him a few thousand dollars? Quote
ADHO15 Posted January 11, 2010 Posted January 11, 2010 I was referring to them in Lego piece terms. I'm surprised you didn't mention brain tails. From the prototype picture they seems to be two separate pieces, but that may just be a placeholder. Maybe Lego will just take Arealights design and pay him a few thousand dollars? What do you mean 'mention brain tails'? Fine by me! Arealight's customs are great! Quote
Rufus Posted January 11, 2010 Posted January 11, 2010 I still trust rockinkurt. I don't know why everyone disregards him completely just because he types really badly. I don't know, but most of the things he said so far came true, weather he was true about the source or not.On the other side, I don't understand why everyone's so sure that it's a UCS Lambda. Could they not be the minifigs of an Endor AT-AT, plus an AT-AT Pilot or two? Fair point. I was all ready to quote the 8129 AT-AT as proof that the 10212 figures will be from a different set; but as far as I know 8129 is still only a rumour. However, I'd be surprised if the 'Shuttle Pilot' figure didn't come with a shuttle! Quote
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