LEGO Star Wars 2010 Pictures and Rumors

[The Legonater]

So I'm not allowed to have an opinion? Based on my experiences with both the UCS RBR and Non-UCS version. I'd pick the non-UCS.

Oh, you're allowed to have an opinion. Just watch out, you might trip over a fireplace and burn to a crisp.

[Clone OPatra]

Honestly, when it comes to choosing if you like UCS or System-Scaled versions better, it comes down to what you like to get out of a LEGO set.

If it's display aesthetic, which basically boils down to "great exterior," then yes, UCS "wipes the floor" with a system scaled equivalent.

But, some people don't want that, they prefer interior, play features, and minifigures. For somebody that wants an interior and minifigures, the system-scale Tantive is much better than the UCS one, even if the exterior is not as highly detailed. Same goes for the Star Destroyer - it certainly resembles a Star Destroyer, but is also a nice LEGO playset.

Now, since we know that the new Shuttle does have a minfigure list, perhaps LEGO is finally delivering a UCS model that has both the amazing exterior detailing that is a given at the UCS scale, and also a great interior. If that is truly the case, then, price aside, I would find it hard to favor one of the system scaled shuttles over the new UCS one. I am really hoping that the new Shuttle will be the first UCS ship with a true interior, and I don't think it would be too structurally difficult to achieve that, but we will just have to see.

[Aeroeza]

Not that stupid contradictory quote again...

Truthfully, I never actually got a chance to own a USC, they were all so expensive, and I generally thought it would be easier to buy the smaller model. Maybe I'll get this one if it's at a good price.

The use of the quote (not Lucas' finest hour) was to highlight how odd a position it was for an AFOL to think a UCS model 'pointless'. At the risk of sounding like I'm repeating myself -its important for TLC to offer us a range of choices as there are significant differences between why some adults would purchase a set when compared to others. Its also important for us as a community to encourage such diversity in our chosen hobby.

That said the range has narrowed over the last 18 months probably due to the immensity and expense of the UCS Falcon as well as the popularity of minifigs. It may also reflect a change in market demographics as the adult collectors from 10 years ago move on to other financial priorities and a new generation of collectors who adore minifigs replace them.

Regardless, given the long wait it would be reassuring to the minority of collectors who enjoy UCS for a new one to become available. That would mean confirmation of the 'brand' not being abandoned.

Honestly, when it comes to choosing if you like UCS or System-Scaled versions better, it comes down to what you like to get out of a LEGO set.

If it's display aesthetic, which basically boils down to "great exterior," then yes, UCS "wipes the floor" with a system scaled equivalent.

But, some people don't want that, they prefer interior, play features, and minifigures. For somebody that wants an interior and minifigures, the system-scale Tantive is much better than the UCS one, even if the exterior is not as highly detailed. Same goes for the Star Destroyer - it certainly resembles a Star Destroyer, but is also a nice LEGO playset.

I absolutely agree with you. This should not be a debate about what's better or worse. A simple acknowledgment about the fact we all enjoy Lego for different reasons is what matters. The hope is that TLC continues to satisfy all those reasons.

Edited May 10, 2010 by Aeroeza

[Aeroeza]

Now, since we know that the new Shuttle does have a minfigure list, perhaps LEGO is finally delivering a UCS model that has both the amazing exterior detailing that is a given at the UCS scale, and also a great interior. If that is truly the case, then, price aside, I would find it hard to favor one of the system scaled shuttles over the new UCS one. I am really hoping that the new Shuttle will be the first UCS ship with a true interior, and I don't think it would be too structurally difficult to achieve that, but we will just have to see.

Wow! Imagine everyone being happy (except those who couldn't afford it). Again you're right, it is feasible for an interior on a model like this. It's certainly more likely to have one than say a UCS AT-AT with cargo compartment (and room for those elusive speeder bikes)! If this is the case then I'm all for it so long as accuracy and detail are not compromised but I can't see that happening for many other potential UCS designs. Consider the falcon, it would have been nuts to have an interior given the piece count was over 5000 (its weight was already on the threshold of a solid workout at the gym). I know that a MOD out there achieved it but it would not have made a realistic set for commercial release.

Also if TLC is now only releasing UCS' which are to scale with minifigs then realistic set choices become more limited and even scarcer if we demand playset interiors as well. Many of these designs would be made incredibly fragile and compromise the structural integrity of already very tricky feats of engineering. It would in short often defeat the purpose of a UCS which is for its accuracy and display potential.

I like the idea of a UCS shuttle to scale with minifigs, I think an AT-AT in the same scale is also a must. But if we limit such models to minifig size only then much of the potential grandeur of a UCS could be lost and that would be a sad thing to see happen. Having said that it would be pretty cool to have an interior when possible and a UCS Shuttle seems a likely candidate if it were to happen at all.

Let's hope we both get our wish!

[LEGOMAN132]

I hope its UCS because I would rather have a nice shuttle with 2000 plus piece count then a crap shuttle with a landing pad.

[Alldarker]

Beter pics from a dutch webshop

http://www.speelgoedwinkel.nl/winkel/index.php?cPath=67_89

Better pics of what, exactly? I can't see anything new on that page...

[Big Cam]

I hope its UCS because I would rather have a nice shuttle with 2000 plus piece count then a crap shuttle with a landing pad.

I don't know, I kind of always wanted a gigantic set that has the entire landing pad, similar to the one in the SW LEGO game, I think that would be the ultimate playset.

[The Legonater]

I decided I'd throw a wrench in the works.

Has anyone heard anything new of the possible MIDI SD? With all this talk about the USC and simpler versions I realized we've seen very little of it.

[OneSnowTrooper]

Nope heard or read nothing about it..

where did you hear/read about this rumor ?

Edited May 10, 2010 by OneSnowTrooper

[commdr_neyo]

Nope heard or read nothing about it..

where did you hear about this rumor ?

It was discused quite some time ago, and it's also in the first post.

Don't you ever check the first post around here?

[OneSnowTrooper]

I thought he was talking about a full size ISD (like 6211)

oh I see the "MD" :S

Edited May 10, 2010 by OneSnowTrooper

[cavegod]

i can't wait for the CTT to be released, i have plans for the 5x5 scala dishes!!

[Major_Ton]

i can't wait for the CTT to be released, i have plans for the 5x5 scala dishes!!

And the well expected question... What kind of plans??

[Sweden]

The Legonater

If it's a Imperial Shuttle you mean then yes we haven't got one in a while. Otherwise we've got shuttles every know and then. Why a UCS Imperial Shuttle? Well... Becuase there are adult builders like me who wants a mini figure scaled UCS model just like the UCS Millennium Falcon. Even if we're a small part of the LEGO community we also deserve to get stuff as the younger audience get plenty of every year.

But it's true that the problem with the UCS models for the most is the price.

Yeah, the interiors that TLC has put in the "so called" playsets are at best amusing to a 8 year old.

sok117

I agree.

Indianajones

Yeah, I got it but even for me as a adult collector and builder it was dang expensive. Especially since Sweden/Europe almost have to pay twice as much per set compared to what the cost is in the US of A.

k peek 2000

To me at least they're both good enough on the outside. The only thing I don't like about the new Tantive IV is that good for nothing interior.

No interior etc in the UCS Tantive IV... You've clearly missed the point that it's UCS. What interior in the new Tantive IV? If that interior even impress a 8 year old you'd be lucky.

Ras74

Me too. Sigh.

Aeroeza

I totally agree with you. Let both adults and kids enjoy LEGO. Well said.

Wow. Well written. You make some really good points in what you wrote. I assume you're a adult collector and builder as well as I am.

Thank you. I actually stopped posting in LEGO forums because of the frequent flame wars that's going on every now and them. There a whole lot of nasty people who wouldn't dare to be nasty in real life.

Nah. I'm tired of spending time in court so lets avoid a flame war.

OneSnowTrooper

Well said. I agree.

TheBrickHitHouse

You're statement is hilarious at best. It has nothing to do with reality. I could've explained why but I won't bother.

cavegod

Interesting point of view. Nice AT-AT by the way.

Darth Legolas

Agreed. It's a nice ship.

drdavewatford

Agreed again. A UCS Imperial Shuttle scaled to the mini figures like the Millennium Falcon.

Clone O'Patra

Well said.

LEGOMAN132

I truly agree with you.

Big Cam

I agree with you but a set like that would be bloody expensive. Then again TLC's playsets has never ever impressed me as a adult and I think they're mediocre at best.

Why I as a adult like the UCS models

First and foremost I am a model kit collector and builder and I've been that for the most part of my life. I used to build the old MPC Star Wars model kits but even if I were a wee lad back then I never ever really liked them for several reasons. As those model kits were more like children's toys than scale model kits lacking correct shapes and details as well as being in a whole lot of different scales I wasn't too pleased with them at all. At that time I thought it was truly strange since there was some really amazing high quality scale models of military subjects etc already way back then but Science Fiction subjects were mostly made for and aimed at small children. This has of course somewhat changed today with all the amazing Star Wars scale model kits from Japanese Fine Molds that allows you to build to example really nice dioramas of for example a Rebel Base.

These ideals I've somewhat brought with me into my collecting and building of the Star Wars LEGO line.

I've collected and built the LEGO Star Wars line ever since the first mini figure sets were released way back in 1999 and I've managed to get a "huge" collection to this date. Seeing what could be made out of LEGO bricks I was truly amazed by this fact and I started to collect and build the LEGO Star Wars line. However... From the very beginning I thought it was a bit sad as a adult that larger ships like the Millennium Falcon, Slave 1 and Imperial Shuttle etc was "heavily <insert that tiresome argument>" and not correctly scaled. Of course I knew that LEGO was being made for and aimed at children but over the years I come to learn how big a thing LEGO collecting and building was amongst adults like myself all over the world and we basically got acknowledgment with the UCS line way back in 2000.

At first I thought it was really cool to see 1:28 scale UCS models of smaller one man ships like the X-Wing Fighter and T.I.E. Interceptor and I as a adult had high hopes for the UCS line. Then along line came UCS models of capitol ships like the Tantive IV and Imperial Star Destroyer in different scales and I thought that was cool to. Then we got the mini figure scale UCS model of the Millennium Falcon that actually were in "true" scale with the mini figure X-Wing, Y-Wing, B-Wing and A-Wing Fighters etc that opened up a whole lot of possibilities for me as a adult collector.

Now adults that have the money, room and time can for example build a Hoth Rebel Hanger with ships that are in scale with each other much like model kit collector and builders now a days can do.

That's why I hope that the UCS Imperial Shuttle is a mini figure scale UCS model like the UCS MIllennium Falcon. Then again I truly like large (LEGO) model kits.

Sweden - The One... And Only.

Edited May 11, 2010 by Sweden

[Klaus-Dieter]

@ KimT:

Why I think that there will be a second exclusive 1021x SW set? Because the last years we always got two Exclusives, too. So why no this year, too?

I don't know, I kind of always wanted a gigantic set that has the entire landing pad, similar to the one in the SW LEGO game, I think that would be the ultimate playset.

I totally agree with you, Big Cam! I, too wanted this set!

But unluckily TLG releases an UCS Imp. Shuttle instead.

Already the price tells us that it can't be a regular Imp. Shuttle (which would be maximum 90 Euros with all figs from that poster) with landing platform (about 20-30 Euros) since then the price would be around 100-120 Euros (like last year's Mon Cal Cruiser) - but not 260 Euros.

Klaus-Dieter

[Big Cam]

Big Cam

I agree with you but a set like that would be bloody expensive. Then again TLC's playsets has never ever impressed me as a adult and I think they're mediocre at best.

Agreed, that's why i wish they'd make a UCS version, geared towards adults/display not play.

I know I sound contradictory, but the Falcon was $500 adn the death star was $300 (sorry I'm in the US so I referance US prices, it's all I know). I know it's just a dream but it's not completely irrational. Maybe at the $350-400 pricepoint. It's be a great way to end the line in 2011 or whenever it finally ends.

[Legoman]

Agreed, that's why i wish they'd make a UCS version, geared towards adults/display not play.

I know I sound contradictory, but the Falcon was $500 adn the death star was $300 (sorry I'm in the US so I referance US prices, it's all I know). I know it's just a dream but it's not completely irrational. Maybe at the $350-400 pricepoint. It's be a great way to end the line in 2011 or whenever it finally ends.

As much as I agree with you, don't you think it'd be easier to just MOC one to your own liking? Considering It wouldn't need any specialist parts, and Isn't a piticularly hard design, It's be far cheaper to Build your own, seeing as the prices of SW lego are quite high, You could MOC a fairly nice one for a fairly nice price.

So there's still no real news about this shuttle?? Oh this is taking an abnormally long time

[k_peek_2000]

So there's still no real news about this shuttle?? Oh this is taking an abnormally long time

I think they are just waiting till Comic-con to do any revealing, this set must be a big deal.

[KimT]

I think they are just waiting till Comic-con to do any revealing, this set must be a big deal.

Then they've waited a long time as they (TLG) flashed the poster with figs a loooooong time ago

[Bobskink]

Then they've waited a long time as they (TLG) flashed the poster with figs a loooooong time ago

they are just getting better and better at keeping secrets.

[The Legonater]

they are just getting better and better at keeping secrets.

Or we're just getting sloppier at finding them.

[382nd Legionnaire]

do you guys think that Lego will make Aayla Secura and Cad Bane magnets as they have done in the past? I really wnat them but I hate the set.

[KimT]

do you guys think that Lego will make Aayla Secura and Cad Bane magnets as they have done in the past? I really wnat them but I hate the set.

Yes.

[The Legonater]

do you guys think that Lego will make Aayla Secura and Cad Bane magnets as they have done in the past? I really wnat them but I hate the set.

if you don't want the CTT, Bane is still available in the Speeder.

[382nd Legionnaire]

if you don't want the CTT, Bane is still available in the Speeder.

mainly interested in aayla, hoping she'll be in a smaller set.