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been doing some measurements between mine and 10212 and as far as i can tell the wings are the same size (10 2x3x1 slopes) and the dorsal fin is the same also, obviously the cockpit is the same from the pics we can see but they have made the neck and the body more accurate, just need to see the back and the underside.

i can see 2 stickers though :thumbdown:

Cavegod, where do you see the stickers?

Based on the size of the cockpit, I wonder if it is a four seater instead of a possible two seater.

Additional pictures of this LEGO masterpiece can't arrive soon enough!!

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Just to clear it up the size

Is the new imperial shuttle as big as dmac one?

Looking to the cockpits I said yes, but what do you mean?

Also I think those two cockpits look identical

I mean everything looks more or less identical :tongue:

I would say the models are fundamentally identical. It seems Lego have based their Shuttle on Dmacs design in more than just a passing fashion. Trawling through his brickshelf pages I came across the following posted information...

I started working on my Lambda Shuttle - and my LEGO version is the real deal, please bear it in mind when seeing the slightly modified copies based on my CAD plans all over the Internet - on October 10th 2004. I took me (sic) six months to complete the model using MLCad software and then another year to collect all the necessary parts (some 2500 of them, if I remember correctly).

2500 parts sound familiar to anyone? I hope this inspires all the hard-core MOCers out there to push the boundaries. You never know, you may get your design mass produced! :thumbup:

Based on the size of the cockpit, I wonder if it is a four seater instead of a possible two seater.

Additional pictures of this LEGO masterpiece can't arrive soon enough!!

... and yes Dmacs design has four seats! Quoting him once more...

There are four seats in the cockpit but only two are occupied- exactly as in the movie.

Although I seem to recall six seats in ROTJ... :sceptic:

Still, I take it to mean that although he has four seats in the model there was only head room available for two figures- his pictures seem to support this supposition. Maybe LEGO was able to mod it sufficiently to fit four? It would be interesting to know if Cavegods re-working managed a full crew; perhaps he could enlighten us.... :classic:

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yep mine can fit four minifigs in the cockpit, theres room behind for more but the boarding ramp will be in the way so they would have to levitate lol.

the stickers are the 2 white lines on the windscreen.

id be interested to know how they access the cockpit interior....

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yep mine can fit four minifigs in the cockpit, theres room behind for more but the boarding ramp will be in the way so they would have to levitate lol.

the stickers are the 2 white lines on the windscreen.

id be interested to know how they access the cockpit interior....

I reckon those two white lines are specular highlights from the camera flash or set lighting, so perhaps we don't have to worry so much about stickers. :sceptic:

Mind you, I've a great collection of sticker sheets hanging out in my UCS cupboard gathering dust who are always looking out for more company....

Edit: Dang, you're right! A closer look at some cockpit scenes found on theforce.net clearly show a thin support strut near the sides of the canopy. Still, there's an outside chance that on 10212 the canopy could end up being a printed piece!?!

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Very nice looking set, and thanks for the pictures! It doesn't look flimsy to me, and despite the two stickers, I love it. Won't be able to get it, but it's possible to love something you can't have nowadays.

Just wondering, is anyone else a fan of the MIDI-SCALE sets? I loved the falcon, and I'm hoping to get the destroyer too.

Yep, I'm enjoying the Midi-Scale! My little Falcon needs a pal or two so bring them on! As far as I'm concerned any attempt at accuracy in any scale for Lego is a collectible for me. Admittedly Mini's are off my radar but I do admire them. I've recently completed the Malevolent model from the Quest for R2 game which seems to border between being a UCS and a Midi. It certainly looks the part beside 10186 but could be equally at home beside a Midi Star Destroyer. However, it's stand does tend to lend it a presence that is lacking in a typical Midi....

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For those of you who noticed that the 10212 is REALLY similar to dmac's version, you shouldn't be surprised. It is quite obvious that LEGO took a lot of things from Pepa Quin's amazing Millennium Falcon for their 10179. The cockpit and side details are very similar, as is the way in which it is built. And there probably was no other way a LEGO team could have managed to come up with a 5000+ piece count, that's bigger than the 10143 Death Star II. Overall the set doesn't seem like LEGO at all. cavegod you are not alone!

And where else would LEGO have gotten the idea for 7778 Midi-scale Millennium Falcon?

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I'm curious to know if there will be any interior in the 10212 (beside the cockpit), since it's a UCS set. Do you guys think that 10212 has the same minifig scale as the 10179 MF? If wookiepedia is correct, the lambda shuttle (20 meters) is aproximadelly half the lenght of the millennium falcon (34,75 meters).

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I'm curious to know if there will be any interior in the 10212 (beside the cockpit), since it's a UCS set. Do you guys think that 10212 has the same minifig scale as the 10179 MF? If wookiepedia is correct, the lambda shuttle (20 meters) is aproximadelly half the lenght of the millennium falcon (34,75 meters).

I bet that there'll be an interior in the cockpit (like it was in the UCS MF, too), Nobrux. But there surely will be no interior in the rest of the shuttle.

Btw:

If there is another exclusive SW set this year, I bet that it'll be shown at ComicCon, don't you think?

As for a Cloud City: I highly doubt it. If it's again "only" 150 Euros it'll be a quite bad set with only one big room and only very few minifigs and without Cloud Car. So it would have to be minimum 250-260 Euros (like 10212) to be decent.

I could more imagine a new Hoth Base since it would offer the last missing location, vehicles and minifigs we need for Hoth. After that our Hoth dioramas would be finished.

Klaus-Dieter

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I'm curious to know if there will be any interior in the 10212 (beside the cockpit), since it's a UCS set. Do you guys think that 10212 has the same minifig scale as the 10179 MF? If wookiepedia is correct, the lambda shuttle (20 meters) is aproximadelly half the lenght of the millennium falcon (34,75 meters).

Once again if we assume Dmac's plans are the prototype for TLG (which we are all probably in agreement about) then there will be little room for an interior. Instead you'll find plenty of technic pieces for the wing assembly, retractable landing gear and boarding ramp. The scale will not quite be minifig, being limited by the dimensions of the windscreen but large enough to put system set equivalents to shame and excite anyone who loves a big build. If Cavegod's cursory examination holds up to high res image scrutiny then the model will have the following dimensions...

Length 49 cm

Height 47 cm (with landing gear), 70 cm with wings in full flight position (who knows how many more when positioned on its stand)

Width 28 cm (wings folded), 69 cm with wings in full flight position

... and weigh about two and a half kilos! (At least those are Dmac's figures).

Interestingly enough the most accurate commercial depiction of the Imperial Shuttle to date is the Kenner toy from the mid 80's. It's dimensions matched the larger (of two) ILM models whose scale was 1/48. The toy has a height of about 50 cm (with over sized landing gear deployed- I'd have to run up to the attic to confirm) and 45.6 cm without the gear (which is 21.9 metres high after converting from 1/48 scale).

So it looks like 10212 will be a close match to the size of the original studio model. Dump the minifigs and you probably couldn't tell the difference from a few paces back.

In short, bloody awesome!!! :thumbup:

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Man, I just am seeing so many sets I want badly. Seems now I'll have to start playing the 'what to buy' game.

Me too. :thumbdown:

Although I do consent that if this set is $250, it would be the first SW set in a loooooong time to hit the 10-bricks-per-dollar ratio. (since the first Battle Droid Battlepack, I believe)

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Oh my God, that thing is huge *huh*

Thanks for the pictures, Xiaan and ny355145.

They are really high res and very large as well.

I like the new figs, very awesome.

Can't wait to have this :vader:

Regards,

CF W

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Thanks guys for posting this.

I've added the high resolution pictures to the 2010 Gallery.

Speedlinks: (click the pics)

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Entire 2010 Gallary is HERE

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