So I have a large amount of Technic pieces. But I do not have Power Functions. It seems like almost every Technic creation these days involves PF. I need some ideas for MOCs I can make that don't involve PF. I just cant get any Ideas.

You can make a non-pf version of just about everything. PF are not the be all and end-all, take 8880 for example - one of the finest technic sets and no electronics in site

LOL. You can build just about anything without power functions.

Ok, so just to start with my models, here are some non PF ones.

Crowkillers Lamborghini Gallardo is a very nice model without Power functions, but with instructions.

And you're right about lots of MOC's using PF nowadays, I'm completely guilty as charged My last non-PF model was my Black Supercar "The Wasp", which is over a year old:

Edited June 29, 201014 yr by Jurgen Krooshoop

"No PF" is classic Technic style :)

There are so many things you could build, why have a look at old Technic sets on Brickset

Some things I've learned about PF models are:

1. Playability comes from controlling the model remotely and having it respond well.

2. building with PF is a challenge of fitting in motors / battery box / gears and driving rings.

3. handling torque is also a real challenge with large PF models. Getting enough torque through drive systems to power a big model without breaking components is a challenge.

4. PF is great fun, and most of my current projects are PF...but sometimes it's nice not to be changing batteries time and again.

This changes when there's no PF. For a complex model the challenge is combining manual playability and good looks.

- Having all the controls easily used by hand is important.

- It's fun to make the controls fit in to the model appearance, but still have it so people can pick up the model and figure out what to press / turn / push :)

This Foremost Commander off-road truck I built looks good, but is a *bad* manual model. It's huge (1m long), heavy, and lacks playable functions. It would have been a good PF model, but the components would break often.

This JCB Fastrac is not too bad, crams in an awful lot of functions though :)

Lego 8285 is my favourite set of recent years. This winch-truck MOD of it has about the right balance of looks / playability (engine, steering, stabilisers, crane rotation, crane up/down, sliding fifth wheel, fifth wheel lock, winch with two speeds).

Ok, so just to start with my models, here are some non PF ones.

@ daftendirekt: Grohl's Brickshelf folder http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?m=grohl666 has many photos for the non-Power-Functions Technic MOCs he pictured above. Many of them have enough photos to be able to figure out how build them yourself.

On his Brickshelf gallery http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=308632 , Nico71 has posted "A Little MOC, inspired by Libeherr L508. The MOC is for a contest at Setechnic.com, Under 400 parts. Instructions."

So I have a large amount of Technic pieces. But I do not have Power Functions. It seems like almost every Technic creation these days involves PF. I need some ideas for MOCs I can make that don't involve PF. I just cant get any Ideas.

You could make things like trailers without PF. What are your interests?