Tinn-man Posted August 29, 2010 Posted August 29, 2010 Wow, I love that Bounty Hunter ship!!! But the T-6.... why wouldn't lego use one of these for the cockpit? I think it would look much better, and you could take the number of pieces taken out of cockpit construction and put it towards bulking up the wings. Quote
PocasNuckie Posted August 29, 2010 Posted August 29, 2010 Everyone has expressed their thoughts on these sets by now, so I am not going to be the one not to do it. First of all, lemme express my concerns about the health of my wallet, because it's going to be in poor shape with all these goodies. So, and starting from the bigger to the smaller: - I don't like the T-6. I recognize the ship has a shape that's not easy to replicate on LEGO, but instead of making it so god damn expensive, solely based on it's figures, they could have improved the ship itself. I don't think it can even hold all the figures, and that sucks because I hate to have loose figures. Still, with Quinlan Vos (assuming it's not Anakin coming instead of him), Saesee Tiin and Shaak , I am surely getting it! - The Bounty Hunter Ship is cool, very cool. I just don't see where LEGO saw that is green. I know it's more appealing than coming in dark gray or something, but as an hardcore SW fan I don't like. The choice of figures looks great, but I hope they get improvements from these preliminary. I would like to add here, that I have nothing against sets that aren't Republic or CIS, but I think LEGO is really underestimating CIS. Couldn't we have got some of those good frigates instead? - The Droid Carrier is surely a great great add to my collection, that lacks droids to oppose the nice force of Clones I got so far! And of course it's nice to have some Gungans to stand as cannon-fodder. Will likely get 1 or 2 of these, depending on the avaiable budget! - About the V-Wing. Well, the ship doesn't look much different from the previous one , except for the colour scheme. But, the figures are so great that they stand for the whole set. Really loving the black pilots! - About the packs, not much to say. It's always cool to have some clone variants to add to our collection. And the Mandos are great too, only hoping that they are somehow different, and not 4 of the same kind. Cheers Quote
Brickdoctor Posted August 29, 2010 Posted August 29, 2010 - I don't like the T-6. I recognize the ship has a shape that's not easy to replicate on LEGO, but instead of making it so god damn expensive, solely based on it's figures, they could have improved the ship itself. I don't think it can even hold all the figures, and that sucks because I hate to have loose figures. Still, with Quinlan Vos (assuming it's not Anakin coming instead of him), Saesee Tiin and Shaak , I am surely getting it! - The Bounty Hunter Ship is cool, very cool. I just don't see where LEGO saw that is green. I know it's more appealing than coming in dark gray or something, but as an hardcore SW fan I don't like. The choice of figures looks great, but I hope they get improvements from these preliminary. I would like to add here, that I have nothing against sets that aren't Republic or CIS, but I think LEGO is really underestimating CIS. Couldn't we have got some of those good frigates instead? - The Droid Carrier is surely a great great add to my collection, that lacks droids to oppose the nice force of Clones I got so far! And of course it's nice to have some Gungans to stand as cannon-fodder. Will likely get 1 or 2 of these, depending on the avaiable budget! - About the V-Wing. Well, the ship doesn't look much different from the previous one , except for the colour scheme. But, the figures are so great that they stand for the whole set. Really loving the black pilots! - About the packs, not much to say. It's always cool to have some clone variants to add to our collection. And the Mandos are great too, only hoping that they are somehow different, and not 4 of the same kind. Cheers You take the words out of my mouth. I may just make my own T-6 for the sole purpose of blowing TLG's away. I'm thinking SNOT wings, for starters. I'm only dissappointed that there are no Kaadu. I would have liked the Droid Carrier that much more if they'd done it like the Gungan Patrol set. Gungan BP and B1 BP would have made this the first CW wave I liked. Quote
ThatGuyWithTheBricks Posted August 29, 2010 Posted August 29, 2010 You take the words out of my mouth. I may just make my own T-6 for the sole purpose of blowing TLG's away. I'm thinking SNOT wings, for starters. I'm only dissappointed that there are no Kaadu. I would have liked the Droid Carrier that much more if they'd done it like the Gungan Patrol set. Gungan BP and B1 BP would have made this the first CW wave I liked. Personally, I don't like brick-built wings. I couldn't really imagine TLG making a set like that. Quote
KimT Posted August 29, 2010 Author Posted August 29, 2010 Remember these pics are still just preliminary designs - they're bound to have some changes before they go into production. They are (to me) as they should be - very LEGO-like and as usual we (the AFOLs) want more and better designs. Nothing's changed in those years I've been around. Eventhough the designs have clearly improved vastly. I guess all we can do is buy the sets and then modify them into what we really want. I think the preliminary pictures we've seen so far are pretty cool and I'm 100% sure there's more to come, even for the Winter wave. Must be Quote
Brickdoctor Posted August 29, 2010 Posted August 29, 2010 Remember these pics are still just preliminary designs - they're bound to have some changes before they go into production. Not if they're like the Theta Shuttle Set. Quote
Forresto Posted August 29, 2010 Posted August 29, 2010 (edited) Not if they're like the Theta Shuttle Set. Very True! Of course the MTT never changed either (nor did it need too!). 999th post Edited August 29, 2010 by Forresto Quote
CMP Posted August 29, 2010 Posted August 29, 2010 Hmm....they'll probably fix the Sugi problem, but if they continue to use that Clawdite shapeshifter that Bane hired, I bet she'll be a dual-sided head, mask and Clawdite face. Quote
Brickdoctor Posted August 29, 2010 Posted August 29, 2010 Very True! Of course the MTT never changed either (nor did it need too!). There's a difference: The T-6 and Theta both have wings that change position. Almost all sets like that have been done this way. Remember the B-wing? The one exception is the various Lambdas that have had slopes for the center wing. Quote
Corvus Posted August 29, 2010 Posted August 29, 2010 Not if they're like the Theta Shuttle Set. The Theta wasn't that bad... well, out of the box it was. After changing out all the white, dk tan, and red, and then building a SNOT fin, it's actually a fairly nice vehicle. Anyway, I'm not expecting much to change except for the figs. Usually pics like these change little... they're already on the box art. Maybe a few token changes. Quote
Rocketbilly Posted August 29, 2010 Posted August 29, 2010 Remember these pics are still just preliminary designs - they're bound to have some changes before they go into production. They are (to me) as they should be - very LEGO-like and as usual we (the AFOLs) want more and better designs. Nothing's changed in those years I've been around. Eventhough the designs have clearly improved vastly. I guess all we can do is buy the sets and then modify them into what we really want. I think the preliminary pictures we've seen so far are pretty cool and I'm 100% sure there's more to come, even for the Winter wave. Must be KimT is wise! more sets in Winter sounds good to me, like many of you I'm hoping for some Original Trilogy stuff, hopefully a TIE fighter. I'd love that. I think it's about time TLG released a new TIE, but this is the wrong place for dicussing that I think, so I'll leave that now. if I don't like a set, I modify it. I pretty much modify any set I get anyway, whether I like it or not - generally to re-inforce it, add small details etc. But the Jedi SHuttle does look like it's going to take a fair amount of bricks to modify, but it'll be worth it, I think it's a very impressive diplomatic ship, and I suppose the figures are just icing on the cake. But like many wise members here, what you have to remember is that these are preliminary pics. Smallish, blurry preliminary pics at that. With dirty great watermarks slapped on them. It's a rough idea of what we'll likely get in the finished product. Will/Rocketbilly Quote
ThatGuyWithTheBricks Posted August 29, 2010 Posted August 29, 2010 Remember these pics are still just preliminary designs - they're bound to have some changes before they go into production. They are (to me) as they should be - very LEGO-like and as usual we (the AFOLs) want more and better designs. Nothing's changed in those years I've been around. Eventhough the designs have clearly improved vastly. I guess all we can do is buy the sets and then modify them into what we really want. I think the preliminary pictures we've seen so far are pretty cool and I'm 100% sure there's more to come, even for the Winter wave. Must be I dunno, they look pretty final to me. Except for the minifigs. Yay! 50 pages and still so much time to discuss. Quote
382nd Legionnaire Posted August 29, 2010 Posted August 29, 2010 Halo: looks alright, too much green reminds me of the Slave 1. Also I'm not crazy about bounty hunters. T6: Shuttle looks alright as well. The figs are awesome while some like Vos and Tiin are questionable because they look like the CW clones. shaak ti looks like several 3rd party customs and that's good. Clone Wars BP: Bomb Squad Troopers don't have a ring like the old one did. I mean if you want to build an army of bomb squads thats fine. their orange color can distinguish them as part of commander cody's legion. I am glad lego made a ARF trooper. kind of reminiscent to the old scout trooper in the empire. also the "clone commando"'s paint job looks decent, although he just might be called Koff's troopers. Mando BP: nothing too special here. all the same is kind of bland. especially they are not true mandos but death watch. Quote
Derek Posted August 30, 2010 Posted August 30, 2010 Personally, I don't like brick-built wings. I couldn't really imagine TLG making a set like that. *cough*cough* Quote
Brickdoctor Posted August 30, 2010 Posted August 30, 2010 The Theta wasn't that bad... well, out of the box it was. After changing out all the white, dk tan, and red, and then building a SNOT fin, it's actually a fairly nice vehicle. 'After' being the key word. I'd commit to the T-6 if TLG would do the SNOT building for us. Give us a smooth, elegant ship with a nice selection of dark red slopes. Quote
ThatGuyWithTheBricks Posted August 30, 2010 Posted August 30, 2010 *cough*cough* Only cuz they copied dmac's/cavegod's design. Quote
prateek Posted August 30, 2010 Posted August 30, 2010 'After' being the key word. I'd commit to the T-6 if TLG would do the SNOT building for us. Give us a smooth, elegant ship with a nice selection of dark red slopes. Agreed. What's the point of calling a set good if you have to do a major overhaul to make it good? Quote
Fallenangel Posted August 30, 2010 Posted August 30, 2010 Wow, I love that Bounty Hunter ship!!! But the T-6.... why wouldn't lego use one of these for the cockpit? I think it would look much better, and you could take the number of pieces taken out of cockpit construction and put it towards bulking up the wings. Yeah, and while they're at it they should make another B-wing fighter using that piece. With 3 Slave Is, 3 A-wings and like 6 snowspeeders, a third B-wing doesn't seem all that impossible. There have been many instances, especially in more recent sets, where LEGO has used, as one member of another LEGO forum described it, redundant use of pieces. *cough*cough* Yeah, but you have to remember most of that was ripped off of dmac's MOC, the same way the UCS Falcon was ripped off of Pepa Quin's and the UCS Delta-7 from cavegod's. I'm guessing that if LEGO hadn't seen dmac's shuttle, they probably wouldn't have used a SNOT technique in certain places. (Heck, they might not have even released a UCS shuttle in the first place.) Oh by the way, I remembered what I was going to say: the ARC-170 made its first appearance in the Star Wars: Obsession series, which takes place in 20 BBY. Its only appearance before that time is in a Battle of Malastare in 22 BBY (the previously cited first appearance of the ARC-170). This Battle of Malastare only takes place in the new Clone Wars series that started last year; the cited date of 22 BBY can therefore be considered a RETCON. Let's not promote doublethink in the Eurobricks community, shall we? And no, I don't believe in TIE/Ins and A-wings being around during the first movie either, nor do I believe Anakin actually built C-3PO on his own. Quote
Brickdoctor Posted August 30, 2010 Posted August 30, 2010 Yeah, but you have to remember most of that was ripped off of dmac's MOC, the same way the UCS Falcon was ripped off of Pepa Quin's and the UCS Delta-7 from cavegod's. I'm guessing that if LEGO hadn't seen dmac's shuttle, they probably wouldn't have used a SNOT technique in certain places. (Heck, they might not have even released a UCS shuttle in the first place.) Can we please not start that again? Quote
Fallenangel Posted August 30, 2010 Posted August 30, 2010 Sorry about that. Back on track, here are a few observations I've made on the new sets: It looks like the Bounty Hunter Ship is able to rotate what I assume are its boosters. Sorry, but I think the Imperial V-wing looks crappier than ever. The nose looks even thinner than on the previous rendition, the guns appear to have been shortened (although it looks like there is a third pair - correct me if I'm wrong), and there's a STICKER on the slope piece. The panels on the rear of the ship look really weird at that angle, and it appears they're attached by the sides again. The wings look to be the same thing and look like they're attached to bars. Bad show LEGO bad show. I'm glad I picked up the 2006 version when it was still around (insignificant to Sith as it is) since it looks a lot better than this one. Is that Coruscant in the background? If that is a BARC speeder in the new battlepack it's got to be the largest and fattest one I've ever seen. It makes it worse that a decent-sized BARC speeder would really have gone well with a clone battlepack... It doesn't look like the '07 short guns will be discontinued since the droids seem to use a pair. They ought to give us the ol' megaphone once in a while so we can have some variety in the ranks. I wonder if a 'Mandalorian' in Jango's colors means we'll be getting yet another Slave I soon? Or better yet, a Geonosis arena-themed set with another load of new Jedi? (Agen Kolar and Ki Adi-Mundi! Yeah! And new droidekas! Yeah!) Quote
XimenaPaulina Posted August 30, 2010 Posted August 30, 2010 (edited) If that is a BARC speeder in the new battlepack it's got to be the largest and fattest one I've ever seen. It makes it worse that a decent-sized BARC speeder would really have gone well with a clone battlepack... I think it's better to reserve judgement when we have the final pics, because it' really hard to see if the 'fatness' of the BARC speeder maybe just due to the pixelation of the blurry photo. But I really hope they do the BARC right this time, as this is one speeder that is essential to any army builder. I wonder if a 'Mandalorian' in Jango's colors means we'll be getting yet another Slave I soon? Or better yet, a Geonosis arena-themed set with another load of new Jedi? (Agen Kolar and Ki Adi-Mundi! Yeah! And new droidekas! Yeah!) Sorry if this is a bit off-topic, but Slave I for the nth time? Really? The Geonosis-themed set might be more probable, and we can't have enough of our jedi. Honestly it's quite an insult to Ki-Adi-Mundi that other lesser jedi MF was made before him (Nahdar, Vos, Barriss just to name a few). Now, let's get back on topic. Edited August 30, 2010 by KielDaMan Quote
Delta 38 Posted August 30, 2010 Posted August 30, 2010 After finally looking at a picture of the Death Watch to understand what these minifigs are supposed to represent, I'm a little disappointed. The grey on their armour and helmets are supposed to be sand green, it seems. While I don't own a Jango Fett and would like to, I would much prefer to have some slightly more colourful Mandalorians. Also, I've noticed that it would be fairly easy to include Pre Vizsla in the battle pack. A slight colour change. some printing on the helmet and maybe even a cape, and that would be good enough. With the recent addition of specific characters in battle packs, I think this may be a possibility. As for another Slave 1 (not again! My wallet's empty enough after getting the current one!), I doubt there will be one released for some time. The colours might just be placeholders, where they used Jango's colours to save some time. I hope this is the case. Quote
XimenaPaulina Posted August 30, 2010 Posted August 30, 2010 (edited) After finally looking at a picture of the Death Watch to understand what these minifigs are supposed to represent, I'm a little disappointed. The grey on their armour and helmets are supposed to be sand green, it seems. While I don't own a Jango Fett and would like to, I would much prefer to have some slightly more colourful Mandalorians. Also, I've noticed that it would be fairly easy to include Pre Vizsla in the battle pack. A slight colour change. some printing on the helmet and maybe even a cape, and that would be good enough. With the recent addition of specific characters in battle packs, I think this may be a possibility. Yeah, the Mandalorian BP is supposed to represent the Death Watch, but based on this reference photo I don't see any sand green, and the colors of the Mandos are pretty spot-on the way I see it. Though I agree that they could easily make Pre Visla with just additional markings on the standard Mando helmet plus a cape and a darksaber (trans-black 4L bar). Edited August 30, 2010 by KielDaMan Quote
Darth Jar Jar Posted August 30, 2010 Posted August 30, 2010 Now that I have seen some closer pictures I think the T-6 looks terrible . I never really liked the Halo in the first place to bulky for me. Quote
XimenaPaulina Posted August 30, 2010 Posted August 30, 2010 Now that I have seen some closer pictures I think the T-6 looks terrible . I never really liked the Halo in the first place to bulky for me. Hmm, if that'll be the final version of the T-6 then it's quite disappointing. I had my hopes high for this one but I agree that it's a so-so build. Now I understand why TLG had to put in three new jedi to compensate for the rather unspectacular shuttle. If not for the new jedi trio I would be passing this one up. Quote
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