XimenaPaulina Posted October 26, 2010 Posted October 26, 2010 (edited) EDIT: Why would it be "wrong not to have" landing gear for the V-wing? It doesn't look like it's supposed to have landing gear in the first place. TIEs don't have landing gear either - do you find that "wrong"? What about other prequel fighters without landing gear, like the N-1 or the Nantex fighter? (Yes, they are too smooth to be legitimate Star Wars, but they are canon, whether I like it or not.) If I remember correctly, the ARC-170 doesn't have landing gear either. I should have made my point clearer, it's not that I find it totally wrong not to have landing gears, but it would just be better if the V-Wing had landing gears compared to none at all. Clear? IMO, the V-Wing won't look good if it just landed on its underside without any landing gears (as I said, I'm not familiar with the V-Wing design and just expressing my opinion). The Delta 7Bs, which is about the same size as the V-Wing, have appropriate landing gears, then why can't they put one in the V-Wing? And pls. do not generalize my statement that all ships should have landing gears. Obviously, the TIE doesn't need one because of the vertical alignment of the wings. And the Naboo N-1 Starfighter has different landing/docking positions (inserted in multi-level hangars). Yes the ARC-170 has no landing gears either, and just look at the official set on how it doesn't look right without the landing gears and just lies flat on its 'belly' in landing position. Edited October 26, 2010 by KielDaMan Quote
Brickdoctor Posted October 26, 2010 Posted October 26, 2010 Don't mind me being picky, but another issue I have with the V-Wing is the guns. The guns on the original are just perfect, but the new one seems awkward with the 1x4 SNOT plate on the 1x2 brick (not sure what it's called) with 2 cones on it. The old one used 2 lightsabers in black attached to the wing via Technic parts, which was much better IMO. But I'm still getting it. The old one actually used Technic pins and bars. Quote
Aethersprite Posted October 26, 2010 Posted October 26, 2010 The old one actually used Technic pins and bars. Yep, I meant the lightsaber rod. :) The new one is REALLY really odd, wonder why'd they do that when the old one is much better. Oh, and the price for the Battles for Geonosis and Naboo are the same. Is that a mistake? Quote
Brickdoctor Posted October 26, 2010 Posted October 26, 2010 Yep, I meant the lightsaber rod. :) The new one is REALLY really odd, wonder why'd they do that when the old one is much better. Oh, and the price for the Battles for Geonosis and Naboo are the same. Is that a mistake? Ah, sorry, my bad. In the future, just as a helpful suggestion, I know that LDD refers to that part as a lightsword blade, but it's generally known simply as the 4L Bar. Quote
Delta 38 Posted October 26, 2010 Posted October 26, 2010 With those new pictures, I'm not too worried about the Gungans' head printing now, but I still can't get used to the arms or the droid carrier. I think the design is fine, even the rack (though I might make some modifications to make it nicer, so I await someone to make a mod for deployment or something ). Still, I really don't like that colour. Normally it wouldn't be too bad, but seeing preliminary pictures where the carrier actually looked better is annoying. I like the back of the package - no functions to display, so they just show how awesome new Jar Jar is Yeah. Quote
Future74 Posted October 26, 2010 Posted October 26, 2010 (edited) The printings on the Gungans are just fantastic, even the printed mask of the Gungan soldier looks great! I actually like the dark flesh arms, it looks more realistic than a fleshie one. I think these two are reason enough to buy this set. I agree with KielDaMan, the printing and the arms are more realistic. But that was also the case with the 'new' Boba Fett and it's more of a matter if you like it or if you dont. In my opinion more realistic is better. From Wookieepedia (click to zoom) Edited October 26, 2010 by Future74 Quote
XimenaPaulina Posted October 26, 2010 Posted October 26, 2010 Based on this ref. photo you posted, the dark flesh arms do look accurate for Jar-Jar, but the generic Gungans might've been better with the old tan arms. Not that it would change, but I guess a good compromise would've been a combo of dark flesh arms for Jar-Jar and tan for the Gungan soldier. Quote
Future74 Posted October 26, 2010 Posted October 26, 2010 (edited) I agree, the generic Gungans should have the old tan arms. But at this stage I dont think TLC will change that as the set is already in production. Edited October 26, 2010 by Future74 Quote
ADHO15 Posted October 26, 2010 Posted October 26, 2010 (edited) I'm pretty sure Jar Jar's arms are flesh by the way, not dark flesh. I love the realism of the Gungans and replacing arms will not be a problem if you want them to look good. Is the back of the Gungan soldier's head the same as Jar Jar's? Edited October 26, 2010 by ADHO15 Quote
Flare Posted October 26, 2010 Posted October 26, 2010 Based on this ref. photo you posted, the dark flesh arms do look accurate for Jar-Jar, but the generic Gungans might've been better with the old tan arms. Not that it would change, but I guess a good compromise would've been a combo of dark flesh arms for Jar-Jar and tan for the Gungan soldier. Yeah, I agree. Quote
Masked Builder Posted October 26, 2010 Posted October 26, 2010 Based on this ref. photo you posted, the dark flesh arms do look accurate for Jar-Jar, but the generic Gungans might've been better with the old tan arms. Not that it would change, but I guess a good compromise would've been a combo of dark flesh arms for Jar-Jar and tan for the Gungan soldier. Agreed. They do look quite nice though. Quote
Emperor Posted October 26, 2010 Posted October 26, 2010 (edited) I've compared the LEGO carrier with the carrier pic from wookiepedia; here are the results. This dark tan isn't just extremely ugly, it's totally the wrong color too. This could have been one of the best SW sets ever, but now it is one of the worst(the droids are good, of course, but I don't want to pay 30 € for 10 droids). Edited October 26, 2010 by Emperor Quote
Masked Builder Posted October 26, 2010 Posted October 26, 2010 While the wrong color it looks okay. Quote
Emperor Posted October 26, 2010 Posted October 26, 2010 (edited) While the wrong color it looks okay. This may be your opinion, but next to my MTT this will look terrible. I love TPM, and I was really looking forward to creating the Naboo battle, but with this carrier this will be impossible. A lone MTT doesn't make for a good TF army :( Edited October 26, 2010 by Emperor Quote
Masked Builder Posted October 26, 2010 Posted October 26, 2010 This may be your opinion, but next to my MTT this will look terrible. I love TPM, and I was really looking forward to creating the Naboo battle, but with this carrier this will be impossible. A lone MTT doesn't make for a good TF army :( True. But like some of the others have said you could use the instructions and some of your parts to mod it to your liking. Quote
Emperor Posted October 26, 2010 Posted October 26, 2010 True. But like some of the others have said you could use the instructions and some of your parts to mod it to your liking. Well, I don't have most of the dark tan parts in the right brown, but you're right, with a modded front and modded sides and a modded droid rack it will be much better... Those dark tan parts can be used for other mocs, so after all it isn't that bad. 12 figs are great anyway. Quote
Brickdoctor Posted October 26, 2010 Posted October 26, 2010 While the wrong color it looks okay. Not that there is an exact match for that color anyway. Personally, I think TLG got it right with the 2001 PAC; brown primary color to match the MTT and tan trim to match the original AAT. Quote
The Legonater Posted October 26, 2010 Posted October 26, 2010 I've compared the LEGO carrier with the carrier pic from wookiepedia; here are the results. *snip* This dark tan isn't just extremely ugly, it's totally the wrong color too. This could have been one of the best SW sets ever, but now it is one of the worst(the droids are good, of course, but I don't want to pay 30 € for 10 droids). Not really, it's just a tad less orange than the original. This is actually the closest colour to the original. Quote
Ceroknight Posted October 26, 2010 Posted October 26, 2010 I've compared the LEGO carrier with the carrier pic from wookiepedia; here are the results. This dark tan isn't just extremely ugly, it's totally the wrong color too. This could have been one of the best SW sets ever, but now it is one of the worst(the droids are good, of course, but I don't want to pay 30 € for 10 droids). If Lego were to have made it a different color, they would have had to make new battle droids since they are the same color as the carrier... Quote
Brickdoctor Posted October 27, 2010 Posted October 27, 2010 If Lego were to have made it a different color, they would have had to make new battle droids since they are the same color as the carrier... That's also an artist's representation, for whatever that statement is worth in a movie saga whose ships all originate as drawings or paintings. From these shots from The Phantom Menace, you can see that the PAC is the same color as the AAT and B1s, in which case from a clearer shot of the AAT I would conclude that the most accurate color is good ol' tan: No, it's not perfect, but it would (a) fit in with the existing TPM AAT, (b) match the B1s, and © fit in with previous Trade Federation vehicles that TLG has done. The most accurate color would probably be that Dk. Flesh color that Jar-Jar has. Quote
XimenaPaulina Posted October 27, 2010 Posted October 27, 2010 I don't really mind the slightly-off color of the droid carrier compared to the real one. It's 'passable' for me. And the accuracy of the build? This is an official set, of course it won't be that accurate. Seriously, I think they did a pretty decent job getting the overall shape right, the small size maybe an issue but that's something that a little bit of modding couldn't fix a'ight?. Don't expect TLG to come up with 100% accurately-designed sets due to parts-cost limitation. Quote
Brickdoctor Posted October 27, 2010 Posted October 27, 2010 I don't really mind the slightly-off color of the droid carrier compared to the real one. It's 'passable' for me. And the accuracy of the build? This is an official set, of course it won't be that accurate. Seriously, I think they did a pretty decent job getting the overall shape right, the small size maybe an issue but that's something that a little bit of modding couldn't fix a'ight?. Don't expect TLG to come up with 100% accurately-designed sets due to parts-cost limitation. Agreed. besides, I'm not into modding. If i want to look at a PAC on my shelf, it'll be redesigned from the ground up. No, it will not hold 112 battle droids. Hopefully. Between an MTT, six droid BPs, various CW sets, and now the temptation of another B1 army builder... Quote
Lord_Bloodwort Posted October 27, 2010 Posted October 27, 2010 (edited) It's nice to see everybody is taking the "no posting confidential pics" to heart, but these don't have the stamp, guys! Let's do some deeplinks, as long as nobody quotes this whole post. Don't quote pics unless it's a few pages later and you just want to make a comment about one to keep it fresh! Even without Vos, you must admit that LEGO is really going to town with new figures in this wave. I count at least fifteen brand new figures, including Clones. Yeah, they're Clones, but they are newly styled. Still, some of the sets like the Battle for Geonosis annoys me in the same way that others have before. The only thing I like about it are Luminara and Rex, and that's really not enough to buy the set. Oh well, that's why I don't really buy Star Wars much anymore, I suppose. re: set 7869, (the geonosis set with Luminara and Rex) That's not a proton cannon, it's a dwarf spider droid. http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Dwarf_Spider_Droid Edited October 27, 2010 by Lord_Bloodwort Quote
prateek Posted October 27, 2010 Posted October 27, 2010 That's not a proton cannon, it's a dwarf spider droid. http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Dwarf_Spider_Droid It's a proton cannon. Why else would a B1 be manning it? Quote
Brickdoctor Posted October 27, 2010 Posted October 27, 2010 re: set 7689, (the geonosis set with Luminara and Rex) That's not a proton cannon, it's a dwarf spider droid. http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Dwarf_Spider_Droid It is obviously not a Dwarf Spider Droid. Dwarf spider droids don't have Battle Droids sitting on them and controlling them. And please, no reason to quote that huge chunk of pics. Quote
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