RileyC Posted January 1, 2011 Posted January 1, 2011 Ok sorry about that Im new here. We all have to start somewhere and we always make a few mistakes along the way I did pick up both of the battle packs and the Battle of Naboo today. Im loving the sets so far! The battle packs have so many new minifig pieces. The new clones are really cool and I cant wait to see a whole army of bomb squad troopers in the future! The speeder is ok but in some ways its rather big. The mando are superb, until you take their helmets off. The head wouldve been ok for just one of them so they couldve been Pre Visla. Then if they acknowledged his existence in the set they couldve included his black lightsabre too. The Battle of Naboo is really good as well. I got it 30% which made it $35 NZ ($24.6 US) so that makes it $2.90 NZ ($2.05 US) for each minifig exlcuding pieces. Jar Jar looks awesome just because we havent had him since 1999 and the extra colouring makes him so much better. Quote
legofan24 Posted January 1, 2011 Posted January 1, 2011 We all have to start somewhere and we always make a few mistakes along the way I did pick up both of the battle packs and the Battle of Naboo today. Im loving the sets so far! The battle packs have so many new minifig pieces. The new clones are really cool and I cant wait to see a whole army of bomb squad troopers in the future! The speeder is ok but in some ways its rather big. The mando are superb, until you take their helmets off. The head wouldve been ok for just one of them so they couldve been Pre Visla. Then if they acknowledged his existence in the set they couldve included his black lightsabre too. The Battle of Naboo is really good as well. I got it 30% which made it $35 NZ ($24.6 US) so that makes it $2.90 NZ ($2.05 US) for each minifig exlcuding pieces. Jar Jar looks awesome just because we havent had him since 1999 and the extra colouring makes him so much better. where in new zealand did you get them? and also how much was the t6 jedi shuttle Quote
commanderneyo Posted January 1, 2011 Posted January 1, 2011 They're both the same class of ship in the same scale. Recoloring doesn't change that, IMO. 8092 is considered a remake of the the landspeeder included in the Cantina, and I think this is the same case. I guess it's a matter pf personal perception. That too. I didn't mean recoloring I meant as in the Episode 1 Frigate was a Diplomatic ship while the CW one is not Quote
Brickdoctor Posted January 1, 2011 Posted January 1, 2011 I didn't mean recoloring I meant as in the Episode 1 Frigate was a Diplomatic ship while the CW one is not The only difference is a couple turrets. IMO, if the ship is the same class and same scale, it is a remake. Remakes for me fall into two categories, in-episode remakes and other-episode remakes. In this case, the ship falls into the second category as a CW-ified remake. That is, of course, my personal opinion. Anyways, let's get back to discussing the rumors. I want the Hoth set to be the blast doors, inside is the command center and med bay, outside a miniature shield generator and P-tower. Vehicles included would be a T-47 and Echo Base speeder. Quote
KingDom Posted January 1, 2011 Posted January 1, 2011 The only difference is a couple turrets. IMO, if the ship is the same class and same scale, it is a remake. Remakes for me fall into two categories, in-episode remakes and other-episode remakes. In this case, the ship falls into the second category as a CW-ified remake. That is, of course, my personal opinion. Lookung at the pictures, I think the new ship is a little bit larger (and I do prefer the colour scheme) but it is definately still a remake. I wouldn't call remaking a bad thing - lest we forget some of the best star wars sets these days are remakes. Take the millenium falcon for example - if we sticked with the 2001 iteration then it wouldn't seem very impressive. Why do people loathe remakes so much? Quote
DarthSion Posted January 1, 2011 Posted January 1, 2011 Eeth Koth is a Jedi master on the Jedi Council during the time of Episode 1 to the clone wars. He was originally going to be in Attack of the Clones, but they had a different actor for Episode 2, and the appearance was too different so the character of Agen Kolar ws born. Eeth was said to have been killed while on a gunship in the first battle of Geonosis, but Dave Filoni wanted to use him in an episode of the CW series (Grievous Intrigue) he was brought back to life. Also, the Rodian in the podrace set is Anakin's friend Wald, not Greedo. I am sincerely sorry about how off topic this is but I had to help out with this. EDIT: Vos is the Jedi who was in the Nall Hutta episode, originally to be put in the Jedi Shuttle but now in the Republic Frigate. Ok thanks for the info. Quote
Brickdoctor Posted January 1, 2011 Posted January 1, 2011 Lookung at the pictures, I think the new ship is a little bit larger (and I do prefer the colour scheme) but it is definately still a remake. I wouldn't call remaking a bad thing - lest we forget some of the best star wars sets these days are remakes. Take the millenium falcon for example - if we sticked with the 2001 iteration then it wouldn't seem very impressive. Why do people loathe remakes so much? I agree. Usually, it's because they feel the set hss been done and they want to see something new. Me, I don't mind remakes; they give new fans chances to buy; they include new minifigs; sets can never be truly perfect. Quote
Fives Posted January 1, 2011 Posted January 1, 2011 I agree. Usually, it's because they feel the set hss been done and they want to see something new. Me, I don't mind remakes; they give new fans chances to buy; they include new minifigs; sets can never be truly perfect. And when you look back, we have not got too many remakes. The only set that has been remade too much is the X-Wing. Quote
Fives Posted January 1, 2011 Posted January 1, 2011 (edited) 30052 30053 Are these new minis, because I have not seen them before. They are very nice, none the less. EDIT: Also, I started a topic yesterday asking people which minifig they considered to be the worst of the new January line up, not including battle droids or minifigs that we had seen before (Anakin, Obi-Wan), but KimT closed it and said to move it here. I know this isn't much of a topic, but I thought it would be interesting to get peoples thoughts. Edited January 1, 2011 by Fives Quote
Brickdoctor Posted January 1, 2011 Posted January 1, 2011 30052 30053 Nice, more sets! No confidential stamps here, I believe it's okay to embed from Brickshelf. That AAT is ugly! Way too tall. The Venator... eh, it might be better than the last one, but not so great looking either. Quote
KingDom Posted January 1, 2011 Posted January 1, 2011 Are these new minis, because I have not seen them before. They are very nice, none the less. I haven't seen them either, hopefully they'll be widely released. I especially think those venetors could come in handy. Quote
Brickdoctor Posted January 1, 2011 Posted January 1, 2011 I haven't seen them either, hopefully they'll be widely released. I especially think those venetors could come in handy. I'm guessing these are the polybag sets that are released to stores like Target and TRU around Easter. Quote
Fives Posted January 1, 2011 Posted January 1, 2011 If only TLG would release that tan AAT as a full set with minifigs, instead of just a mini. Minis are nice, but a tan AAT is a remake we need. Quote
KimT Posted January 1, 2011 Author Posted January 1, 2011 First post updated as is the Instructions Index. Quote
Flare Posted January 1, 2011 Posted January 1, 2011 Ugh that Venator is butt-ugly... the AAT ain't beautiful either... Quote
KimT Posted January 1, 2011 Author Posted January 1, 2011 Ugh that Venator is butt-ugly... the AAT ain't beautiful either... What'd you expect from MINI sized sets? Quote
KingDom Posted January 1, 2011 Posted January 1, 2011 Ugh that Venator is butt-ugly... the AAT ain't beautiful either... Really? I don't find either set especially well designed but you can't expect much with large ships and a small piece count IMO. Quote
Brickdoctor Posted January 1, 2011 Posted January 1, 2011 What'd you expect from MINI sized sets? They're disproportionate. The Venator is ugly because it is flat, and it can't be made any better at this scale, but the AAT needs either a smaller top or a bigger bottom, and the latter should be a matter of just slapping on a couple plates. Looking at this one picture, the top part shouldn't be too hard to bring down one plate, then on the bottom instead of the 3x3 corner round plates, the second layer uses 4x4 corner round plates but pushed back a stud from their position in the first layer, and then the 3x3 plates form a third layer that would still line up with the jumper plates. Quote
Supersonic Posted January 1, 2011 Posted January 1, 2011 Wow, these are the worst mini sets I've ever seen...the AAT is so badly designed, it's like they built it without looking at the original (or while drunk ). The Venator isn't beautiful either. BTW, I have seen much better mini versions of both ships around here. And it's not like minis are always that bad, many official promos (like the X-Wing) look really nice. As I'll stay in the U.S. for two weeks around Easter I'll look if I can get some anyway. The AAT looks like a nice tan parts pack. Quote
KingDom Posted January 1, 2011 Posted January 1, 2011 They're disproportionate. The Venator is ugly because it is flat, and it can't be made any better at this scale, but the AAT needs either a smaller top or a bigger bottom, and the latter should be a matter of just slapping on a couple plates. I wouldn't call the venator flat. I think TLG were going for a sloped look, hard to do on that scale. Essentially, using layers instead of traditianol sloped bricks, the venator stays at 1 brick height in the centre and sloping down. Not too bad considering the scale. Quote
Brickdoctor Posted January 1, 2011 Posted January 1, 2011 I wouldn't call the venator flat. I think TLG were going for a sloped look, hard to do on that scale. Essentially, using layers instead of traditianol sloped bricks, the venator stays at 1 brick height in the centre and sloping down. Not too bad considering the scale. Yes, it's what they did in '08. Just because they tried to make it slope the best way they could at this scale doesn't mean it doesn't look flat. The Venator, I can understand, even if I still don't like it, but my main gripes are all in the AAT. Quote
gotoAndLego Posted January 1, 2011 Posted January 1, 2011 (edited) I like my mini/midi slave 1 better, I made it out of my own parts with inspiration from a moc on this site i believe. And IMO it looks much better then this one, with all legal connections. And I like my Midi LAAT/c and LAAT/i better than the official mini ones, but that's easy to do with a larger scale. And while I like the new Brickmaster Slave 1, Eichorn's (sp?) midi one is nicer. Edited January 1, 2011 by gotoAndLego Quote
Fives Posted January 1, 2011 Posted January 1, 2011 I think the problem with these minis is that the AAT is too skinny and doesn't have a big enough head turret, and the venator is too wide in the middle. They just look kinda silly. I felt that the old mini venator was better. Quote
The Legonater Posted January 1, 2011 Posted January 1, 2011 Yes, it's what they did in '08. Just because they tried to make it slope the best way they could at this scale doesn't mean it doesn't look flat. The Venator, I can understand, even if I still don't like it, but my main gripes are all in the AAT. I agree. The Venater can't really be helped at this scale. The AAT, however, should like very different. Quote
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