God Iron Posted January 25, 2010 Posted January 25, 2010 Are we thinking about the target group (7+) or much younger? I'd said LEGO suitable 7 year olds are able to build even the inika without help. Nevertheless, it is not like the lower end needed help to build the pre 2008 matoran... Seriously, an impulse creator set is harder than those.At this rate, even creator sets will come pre-built, I guess that will be a quality success. --- This is boring, need better pics of the villains already. This whole 7+ target age group is a bit weird to be honest. When I was younger Bionicle was popular for 5-7 year olds. After that age most kids think it is baby-ish. I understand this might not be true everywhere but I'm just say'in. Quote
cheesey skrall Posted January 25, 2010 Posted January 25, 2010 this is starting to get a bit off-topic.. Quote
Aanchir Posted January 25, 2010 Posted January 25, 2010 Try and watch a 6 year old putting a ball in a ball cup, or connecting a torso and a pelvis piece with two Technic bushings. They struggle, half the time turning the torso backside facing front. Amen to that. For one of my birthdays (forget which one, but back when I was within the young end of the BIONICLE age range) my dad got bulk Throwbots to give out as party favors. One of the activities at the party was a disk launching competition, and so the Throwbots had to be built before that could commence. I was amazed at how much trouble some people had interpreting the instructions and putting together the models. I'm not saying that I prefer simple builds, but I can certainly understand why they're necessary. "Small set" builds aren't yet as versatile as the Inika build, but hopefully if we give it a few years LEGO will come up with a design that offers that kind of potential. Who knows; perhaps the Hero Factory torsos will be the new "template" which LEGO uses to come up with more versatile armor styles and structures. Quote
Darkness Falls Posted January 25, 2010 Posted January 25, 2010 Hi. I don't have a scanner, but I did my best- http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/GateGuar...oMovies/hf1.jpg http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/GateGuar...oMovies/hf2.jpg http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/GateGuar...oMovies/hf3.jpg http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/GateGuar...oMovies/hf4.jpg Quote
cheesey skrall Posted January 25, 2010 Posted January 25, 2010 Hi. I don't have a scanner, but I did my best- whoa, they look awsome! preston looks like crap Quote
Zaktan of the Shadows Posted January 25, 2010 Posted January 25, 2010 (edited) Concept art is pretty decent! The sets seem to be popping out of the magazine... Still, these look as decent as ever. The colour schemes are fantastic, but the Agori builds and proportions are still minor problems. -ZotS Edited January 25, 2010 by Zaktan of the Shadows Quote
cheesey skrall Posted January 25, 2010 Posted January 25, 2010 In addition to what i just posted, in the picture with duncan bulk, there are rows of each of the heroes. Does that mean that they all look the same with different names? like mark surge's model can also be called 'fred lightning' or something like that. shame that the villians werent in the magazine... C skrall Quote
80 Dollar Posted January 25, 2010 Posted January 25, 2010 (edited) They changed Preston's secondary color to black or is that just a really bad quality photo? Thanks for the pictures. I love the Furno Bike concept art and Stringer. Edited January 25, 2010 by 80 Dollar Quote
cheesey skrall Posted January 25, 2010 Posted January 25, 2010 They changed Preston's secondary color to black or is that just a really bad quality photo? Looks blue to me... but you're right, it does look black... C skrall Quote
Darkness Falls Posted January 25, 2010 Posted January 25, 2010 (edited) Basically, it sounds a lot like Agents and Bionicle combined- the concept art is actually from the comics that you can place your own heroes into- they represent two different art styles you can use. Preston's secondary color is dark blue- Metru blue. The whole agents thing I'm talking about is how the equipment changes from mission to mission- Furno's bike is from a different mission that requires a bike- just as the dropship is probably going to be from another mission. We might be looking at six base figures that reoccur throughout the entire line- then again, maybe not. But the gear definitely changes from mission to mission. They refer to Von Nebula as the "chief nemesis". Edited January 25, 2010 by Darkness Falls Quote
Leugi Posted January 25, 2010 Posted January 25, 2010 (edited) Well, they have diferent armor styles. Their arms don't seem bendable. And it does seem Jimi Stinger (he's the silver one, right?) will have a red glatorian head, we can always hope, right? But, no new picks from the villains... Edited January 25, 2010 by Leugi Quote
80 Dollar Posted January 25, 2010 Posted January 25, 2010 Looks blue to me... but you're right, it does look black...C skrall Yepp you are right it is just really dark. Well, they have diferent armor styles. Their arms don't seem bendable. And it does seem Dunkan (he's the silver one, right?) will have a red glatorian head, we can always hope, right?But, no new picks from the villains... There is a concept art of Preston fighting XPlode...not enough for you? :P Quote
cheesey skrall Posted January 25, 2010 Posted January 25, 2010 There is a concept art of Preston fighting XPlode...not enough for you? :P 1) i didnt see that. they look nothing like them. xplode has the iron man head :P and preston haz a mouthhole. 2) no, it isnt enough for me. I WANT HD PICS OF BADD GUYS LEGO D=<... C skrall And it does seem Jimi Stinger (he's the silver one, right?) nah, he's the orange and black one C skrall whoa! i replied to Leugi's comment, but it somehow became part of the other poset. WTF? ( IT DID IT AGAIN) Quote
Darkness Falls Posted January 25, 2010 Posted January 25, 2010 1) i didnt see that. they look nothing like them. xplode has the iron man head :P and preston haz a mouthhole.2) no, it isnt enough for me. I WANT HD PICS OF BADD GUYS LEGO D=<... C skrall nah, he's the orange and black one C skrall whoa! i replied to Leugi's comment, but it somehow became part of the other poset. WTF? ( IT DID IT AGAIN) If you reply within close proximity of your first post, it simply merges the two posts. Quote
ultimate antrozek Posted January 25, 2010 Posted January 25, 2010 I could like to know what the pages says Quote
---Vertea--- Posted January 25, 2010 Posted January 25, 2010 Its' nice to see the angle the arms are bent is far better for playing, but I would still like very much to see the villains Quote
The Crazy One Posted January 25, 2010 Posted January 25, 2010 Hi. I don't have a scanner, but I did my best-http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/GateGuar...oMovies/hf1.jpg http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/GateGuar...oMovies/hf2.jpg http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/GateGuar...oMovies/hf3.jpg http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/GateGuar...oMovies/hf4.jpg I love you so much for that. Quote
vexorian Posted January 25, 2010 Posted January 25, 2010 (edited) The heroes look sort of funny outside their CGI haven. At least the limbs are not awful like the agori ones but passable this time. Really want better pics of the villains :/ Try and watch a 6 year old putting a ball in a ball cup, or connecting a torso and a pelvis piece with two Technic bushings. They struggle, half the time turning the torso backside facing front. Hence the reason I soon expect Creator sets to come pre-built. Say these anecdotes explain the simplified, useless parts. What remains a mystery is the ultra expensive cost. usually lowering piece counts is supposed to lower price rather than increasing it... It merely explains the lack of axles and pins. But still, at 8 bucks there could easily be enough articulations to have them more posable and not need limbs in strange angles. The armor could have still been more than one single part... Yeah, I see that a lot. In fact, I have to help people around my age even, with their first technic fig (which is actually pretty surprising).-ZotS Isn't it the whole point of LEGO? I bet that even for av-matoran the first time is non-obvious and you'll need help. It is natural. Edited January 25, 2010 by vexorian Quote
jeswal Posted January 25, 2010 Posted January 25, 2010 The way people complain about the price of the buildable figure market astounds me. I always compare it to Transformers. Now, I love Transformers, and I've bought many over the years. But 13 dollars for one? When I can get a buildable figure that's 8-9 inches tall and can be disasembled and used to create my own figures, vehicles? I think 13 dollars is perfectly acceptable. I simply think we got lucky with the price of older figures. Quote
vexorian Posted January 25, 2010 Posted January 25, 2010 (edited) The way people complain about the price of the buildable figure market astounds me. I always compare it to Transformers. Now, I love Transformers, and I've bought many over the years. But 13 dollars for one? When I can get a buildable figure that's 8-9 inches tall and can be disasembled and used to create my own figures, vehicles? I think 13 dollars is perfectly acceptable. I simply think we got lucky with the price of older figures. To be fair, there are also other markets tat are less expensive. I was surprised today at the toy store when I went to the model section and the prices were so much lower. It seems a canister is worth two tank models, maybe I picked the wrong hobby. Though in this place LEGO is priced a little more than in the US due to taxes and transportation and greed. So maybe it is different up there. . Edited January 25, 2010 by vexorian Quote
Bfahome Posted January 25, 2010 Posted January 25, 2010 What remains a mystery is the ultra expensive cost. usually lowering piece counts is supposed to lower price rather than increasing it... Hi, welcome to planet Earth. We are currently going through a massive recession, as well as facing dwindling oil supplies and heightened prices for petroleum-based products. Enjoy your stay. Also, size matters. $5 for a single piece is not unreasonable. Neither is $15. Quote
vexorian Posted January 25, 2010 Posted January 25, 2010 (edited) Hi, welcome to planet Earth. We are currently going through a massive recession, as well as facing dwindling oil supplies and heightened prices for petroleum-based products. Enjoy your stay. Welcome to a place in which reducing someone else's argument to the absurd does not always work that easily. The av-matoran switch happened during the first half of 2008, a year in which claims of recession would have been met with skepticism. Also, 2008/2009 years' canister sets have a much more reasonable per piece cost in comparison. So, the recession is not going to work that well to explain it either. Also, size matters. I don't think just the slight change in size can explain the large shift in cost. Edited January 25, 2010 by vexorian Quote
The Alchemyst Posted January 25, 2010 Posted January 25, 2010 Hi, welcome to planet Earth. We are currently going through a massive recession, as well as facing dwindling oil supplies and heightened prices for petroleum-based products. Enjoy your stay.Also, size matters. $5 for a single piece is not unreasonable. Neither is $15. Technically it's "over", but what you say is right. And mold costs; I remember reading there was something about the size of the mold that made baseplates difficult. And that bike pic looks great. I want to see more concept art rather than the set pics. :P And to all Vexorian has been saying: No part is useless, you're just not finding a way to use it. I mean really, I've seen some nifty uses for the Av-toran torso and limbs. How pose-ibility without sacrificing simplicity? Limbs in strange angles? Try running or putting an action pose without them. They're marketed for the younger side of the age-range, for roleplaying and such. Recently they even have some more incentives to buy for MOCers. So am I not getting your point, or is it that Lego should ditch the easy stuff for the, you know, little kids and make more complicated stuff with less new molds? I'm frankly happy with the new molds and stuff. I get to be choosy and save money. Quote
vexorian Posted January 25, 2010 Posted January 25, 2010 (edited) No part is useless, you're just not finding a way to use it. I mean really, I've seen some nifty uses for the Av-toran torso and limbs. Sure they are not useless. They are just not as excessively useful as their high price tag implies. They are merely 'sort of' useful. Limbs in strange angles? Try running or putting an action pose without them. Seems LEGO learned of their mistake the hard way hence the heroes' limbs are not excessively ugly anymore. They're marketed for the younger side of the age-range, for roleplaying and such. I insist, the times in which LEGO sets will start to come pre-built are coming soon. Recently they even have some more incentives to buy for MOCers. So am I not getting your point, or is it that Lego should ditch the easy stuff for the, you know, little kids and make more complicated stuff with less new molds?I'll be happy if they just use a better piece/price ratio. When they put the stuff in a canister and charge 8 USD for them they give the wrong idea that the set is similar product to the canister ones instead of being large plastic pieces aimed at an age range that's bellow the one specified on the canister. I sure am happy as well that I get the chance not to buy sets. All those av-matoran, agori and heroes that I won't buy mean lots of money to be spent on other things. Kinda terrifying they insisted on putting agori on the large sets of 2009 though. Edited January 26, 2010 by vexorian Quote
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