Sandy Posted October 1, 2010 Posted October 1, 2010 The mafia had to start off with more than 1 member per family, ok? That's how this works. Also, if the same guy attempted to do recruiting last night, wouldn't he only be from one family? Unless there was a truck that drove through town which contained only Bley suitcases? Besides, how do we know that the conversions were successful? We don't! So if you all want to assume that we are facing 4 mafia members, then by all means, go right ahead. If those two last night were converted, I fear we are facing many more than 8 though. I agree with the stylist that we must not jump to conclusions, not just yet. We were told of the two Mafia families getting wiped out almost completely, but who knows what other factions our town hides besides them? I'm afraid we were just lucky that nobody got killed last night... By the way, I was very busy arranging things at my workplace yesterday, but I believe I can contribute more to this discussion from now on.
Peanuts Posted October 1, 2010 Posted October 1, 2010 What an extremly interesting night it was. Well, first of all, no one was killed, I can´t say this time if killing or recruiting is worse, but there are some facts I can say: There are at least two recruiters and one killer. The town can´t use a recruiter, except they are something like a recruiting mason, which dies if they try to convert someone scummy or something But in the most likely case there is no, each familiy has one recruiter. Furthermore there is at least one Killer, who is obviously town, ´cause I don´t think there is a Recruiter and a killer in one family, as I don´t think there is two recruiters in one family. Therefore the scum can´t yet kill people, but they can´t fight themselves like this, which leads me to three possibilities: 1)There are certain or uncertain people who will be killers after being recruited, which seems quite senceful to me. 2)The only way to kill themselves is recruting some vigilantes with killing abilities, which means, there is more than one, and the others didn´t dare to kill or were blocked. Doesn´t make much sence to me, but it is still a possibility. 3)The scum is actually working together. I know, this is of the stove already, but this would be the only way to win without killing. I don´t think it´s like this, so I strongly suggest there are either people who become killers if converted or everyone converted will be a killer (only if there´s no other killer, of course). In the second case the scum would quickly get a converter and a killer, which means, we could convict a mafioso every day and will still lose. Next point: I don´t think anyone was actually suspect of Ian Cons except for Thomas Bricks. If he was the one watching Ian than he could be converted by he scum. It would make completely sence, ´cause he was talking a lot yesterday and made some assuptions, maybe he fortunetly hit a scum member who now converted him. I for sure will keep an eye on him, even if it´s nothing valid, just to get the ball rolling. What do you think about this? Oh, and, I´m happy there´s noone dead. I just hope, my son won´t have to see any bodys laying around here.
badboytje88 Posted October 1, 2010 Posted October 1, 2010 Wow! No deaths! This somewhat surprises me. It makes me happy to know that I haven't lost anyone I love. But it also makes me anxious. I hope only the god fathers have enough power to convince someone to be a mobster. That way their forces will grow by one member per mafia per night. But if every mafioso has the power to convince someone to become a mobster, we'll have a even bigger problem. The numbers would be enormous: Day 1 : 2 Mobsters Day 2 : 4 Mobsters Day 3 : 8 Mobsters Day 4 : 16 Mobsters Day 5 : 32 Mobsters I sure hope this isn't the case... Does the police department have any leads?
Eskallon Posted October 1, 2010 Posted October 1, 2010 Thank god there were no kills last night, however it pains me to think that there are even more mafia scum out there. Day 1 : 2 Mobsters Day 2 : 4 Mobsters Day 3 : 8 Mobsters Day 4 : 16 Mobsters Day 5 : 32 Mobsters No, it would only be two more each day so: Day 1 : 2 Day 2 : 4 Day 3 : 6 Day 4 : 8 ...............
The Crazy One Posted October 1, 2010 Posted October 1, 2010 Thank God, no deaths. But, in a morbid tone, that means no leads.
Admiral Ron Posted October 1, 2010 Posted October 1, 2010 Alright, lets look at some facts: -One person is a killer, and probably a towny, since they didnt attack the Chief, with his pin. -There is one, maybe two, converters with briefcases. -One or both of the people recruited were investigators, and if that is true, perhaps the godfathers have a way to know everyone's abilities? Not really a fact, but I have a question, Why was Ivan just standing in a park, I never get out of the restaurant very often and I cant tell which building he is standing in front of.
Rick Posted October 1, 2010 Posted October 1, 2010 Certainly not, our chief was wearing a "I love my town" pin. I think the chief either cannot be killed at night, or was protected by others. Could this mean it was an attempted but failed conversion? It would explain the metaphorical 'I love Town' pin. As great as it is that we had no deaths, it also means that no one targeted the scum, and it could mean they converted new members (though that isn't proven, they could have tried and failed). If the reasoning above is correct, the other two conversions are implied to be successful and more than one scum member can be recruited to each family each night (lending credence to the theory that the two mob bosses started of/survived on their own).
Stash2Sixx Posted October 1, 2010 Posted October 1, 2010 What an extremly interesting night it was. Well, first of all, no one was killed, I can´t say this time if killing or recruiting is worse, but there are some facts I can say: BLAH, BLAH, BLAH (shortened for space) How are these facts? What proof do you have? How would you know any of this was a fact? THIS makes me very suspicious of you. And no, as of right now, nothing seems to be missing from my home.
sok117 Posted October 1, 2010 Posted October 1, 2010 uh-oh, things aren't looking good for this town. Keep me in the loop!
ADHO15 Posted October 1, 2010 Posted October 1, 2010 The Police in this town seem very complacent. Instead of being grateful for no-one being killed they should concentrate on finding the bad apples of the town. They seem far too relaxed over this. I will cast a suspicious look at some of them An' what d' you suggest we do 'bout it, Benjy? You got any leads you aint tellin' us about? We could go round interviewin' everyone, but what'd be the point when everyone's sharin' their statements 'ere?
HouseofH Posted October 1, 2010 Posted October 1, 2010 While I'm glad I didn't die, and neither did my allies, I'm slightly worried about these stalkers everywhere in the city. Who could they be watching? I think we should vote of today- there where noticeably suspicious people yesterday that we should get back to interrogating.
The Legonater Posted October 1, 2010 Posted October 1, 2010 This is crazy. Two of our best men came closing to spotting these crazies, and we didn't even get a glance? Alright, alright, let's think. We have some sort of meeting going on here, with two unidentified people talking to each other. Both the Chief and the bodyguard came close to their last breat. What does this tell us? Do we need a bodyguard to guard the bodyguard? Do we need to protect the chief???
Professor Flitwick Posted October 1, 2010 Posted October 1, 2010 Spiffingly good to see your all still here! (See, thats what voting conservative will do for you!) How do we know Stash wasn't just one of those oiks? It could be more than just taken place in his house.
Quarryman Posted October 1, 2010 Posted October 1, 2010 Good to see that we didn't lose anyone loyal to the town last night, not so good that we have so little to go on. I think I'll be needing a strong cup of coffee, and some breakfast if I'm to be of any use here today.
Sirius Black Posted October 1, 2010 Posted October 1, 2010 Well, this is not the worst possible outcome, but it is not great. We have no (revealed) leads, no information, and are still where we were yesterday, but now we have to deal with the possibility that the mafia has added two members to its group. At this point, we need to consider voting someone out. Doing nothing provides the mafia with an advantage, as our vote is the best way to stop the mafia. It appears that the godfathers are playing conservatively. They are avoiding taking very many night actions (besides recruiting), and therefore are leaving us in the dark. We need to start to take action. Susan
Rick Posted October 1, 2010 Posted October 1, 2010 They are avoiding taking very many night actions (besides recruiting), and therefore are leaving us in the dark. We need to start to take action. Actually, this is consistent with them being alone yesterday. They don't like to get their hands dirty and (may) need mafia goons to take care of the actual killings.
Sirius Black Posted October 1, 2010 Posted October 1, 2010 Actually, this is consistent with them being alone yesterday. They don't like to get their hands dirty and (may) need mafia goons to take care of the actual killings. Agreed, but will the recruited mafia have the ability to kill? Or will they retain their original abilities?
RoryoCox Posted October 1, 2010 Posted October 1, 2010 Well, this is not the worst possible outcome, but it is not great. We have no (revealed) leads, no information, and are still where we were yesterday, but now we have to deal with the possibility that the mafia has added two members to its group. At this point, we need to consider voting someone out. Doing nothing provides the mafia with an advantage, as our vote is the best way to stop the mafia. It appears that the godfathers are playing conservatively. They are avoiding taking very many night actions (besides recruiting), and therefore are leaving us in the dark. We need to start to take action. Susan I agree Susan, I think that no deaths is good but we are still at step 1. We need to take a piece of action to make sure we don't get fooled again and lose more people to they're cause. If we vote in the dark it may knock out a few innocent people so we need to move carefully.
Eskallon Posted October 1, 2010 Posted October 1, 2010 Can someone maybe with a lot of free time complete a list of people that have not said anything. These people may be the ones to look out for.
Bendybadger Posted October 1, 2010 Posted October 1, 2010 An' what d' you suggest we do 'bout it, Benjy? You got any leads you aint tellin' us about? We could go round interviewin' everyone, but what'd be the point when everyone's sharin' their statements 'ere? I saw nothing at all last night. I was just saying is all. If I had a lead I would report it like a good citizen. This is getting serious now. Talk of more mafia members now worries me quite a lot. I will keep a very vigilent eye on from my scaffolding today.
The Crazy One Posted October 1, 2010 Posted October 1, 2010 Can someone maybe with a lot of free time complete a list of people that have not said anything. These people may be the ones to look out for. Hmm.....not a great tactic, because it singles out people on the basis that they haven't had a chance to speak, or are are to scared to speak. I don't think we should rely on that.
Capt.JohnPaul Posted October 1, 2010 Posted October 1, 2010 Well, this is not the worst possible outcome, but it is not great. We have no (revealed) leads, no information, and are still where we were yesterday, but now we have to deal with the possibility that the mafia has added two members to its group. At this point, we need to consider voting someone out. Doing nothing provides the mafia with an advantage, as our vote is the best way to stop the mafia. It appears that the godfathers are playing conservatively. They are avoiding taking very many night actions (besides recruiting), and therefore are leaving us in the dark. We need to start to take action. Susan *Insert Southern Accent* Yeah, that's what I was worried about yesterday. If we all don't vote, we're back where we started! But I know that we need evidence. Y'all, it's time to take action!
iamded Posted October 1, 2010 Posted October 1, 2010 If we all don't vote, we're back where we started! Nah, we'd be worse off than when we started. The way I'm beginning to see it, if we keep up the pace of not votin' anyone off, then the Mafia gets one of us on their side. Which means we still lose a person, and they gain one. Now accidentally votin' off a townie will only make things worse by further thinning our numbers, but if we happen to vote of a Mafia guy then though we may lose someone in the night via conversion, they won't be gaining another member, only replacing one. Which still means they could whittle us down... not to mention there's two families, and we can only vote off one person a day, so either way one of the families gains a member. Okay, well maybe the families can't recruit every night. That seems more fair.
General Redwater Posted October 1, 2010 Posted October 1, 2010 I'm so sorry I missed so much. I promise to be more active. No deaths, that's good............. - Redwater
Inconspicuous Posted October 1, 2010 Posted October 1, 2010 Not really a fact, but I have a question, Why was Ivan just standing in a park, I never get out of the restaurant very often and I cant tell which building he is standing in front of. I was standing near the pavilion, in case the Senator should require anything. I am extremely devoted to my job and I will stop at nothing to make sure the Senator is protected. I hope that you aren't suspicious of me simply because of my devotion. I want to get out of this too, but I have other duties of high priority.
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