Dragonator Posted November 9, 2010 Posted November 9, 2010 Hang fire just a bloody minute people, this is a strange situation we have here, and considering the possible mental instability of our dear stylist, probably needs the careful and skilled handling of the police force. *Clears throat* Stash, what are you hoping to achieve by killing yourself? You can't help anyone once you're dead, suicide just isn't the way to handle this information. I am saddened and hurt that you feel I've been lying to you, but please trust my word that I'm a townie as I have said all along. I do have one of your vests, that is true, and that makes me a target, but killing yourself is only going to hurt the town and the chances of the rest of us surviving.I've put my faith in you day after day so far, don't ruin all your efforts yesterday now by doing something stupid like this. As for the rest of you who are shamelessly taking this opportunity to vote for Stash, I ask you this; strategically, what are you hoping to achieve by killing him? All we will discover is that he is neutral, and we will have gained nothing. I would rather use the information he has provided now and deal with the real threats than vote off someone who is an asset to our town and whom it isn't necessary to kill. I think it's shameful that you would even consider wasting an entire day of voting and allowing more of us to be killed during the night just so we can kill someone who has helped us so much. I implore you, try to think with your heads on this vote. You may say I have a vested interest in seeing this vote stopped, that is true, however I do not say this for just my own benefit, I say it for the benefit of our town as a whole. Only the scum are to gain by opening townies up to night kills, as there are no town vigilantes that we are currently aware of. Does nobody see that? Seriously, take a moment to engage brain people, otherwise you may make a mistake we will all regret in the coming days. Speaking of engaging brain, it is about time we dealt with a neutral who does actually pose some threat to the town. The neutral I am speaking of is of course the manipulative teacher Shaun Dows. He helped us right at the beginning, but since then I have come to realise this was a cover for his real motives. Shaun has been doing a lot behind the scenes, and I suspect he may well be behind Stash's decision to commit suicide, as I know the pair have been having extensive discussions with each other. Back during Day 4, Stash came to me with some very interesting news; that he needed to kill all the politicians, and that I counted as one. At the time I didn't feel it was enough to act on, but for the last couple of days Shaun has been trying to convince me privately to help him in getting the mayor lynched. I don't know if the mayor is innocent or not, but Shaun's fixation on killing him raised some alarm bells. He approached me telling me he is neutral and has to avenge the death of his brother, a story which I find highly doubtful and, even if true, detrimental to the survival of the town. This added to my suspicions. The final confirmation came with Sandy's interesting revelation yesterday evening, and with that, I think it is time we acted, as do many of you. Upon my honour as a loyal townie and your Chief of Police, I swear that what I say is true, and that Shadows is a neutral bent on the destruction of several of our loyal townies. As is becoming a tradition in this town, if I am proved wrong I will hand in my badge and willingly allow myself to be voted out tomorrow. Shaun knows that the only way to kill some of us is at night, so he aligned himself with Sandy and tried to use her, but clearly that backfired for him and he abandoned the attempt. But not before Sandy could stab him in the back too. I am taking a risk, but it is a risk that will benefit the town as a whole, so I am willing to take the full brunt of it. Vote: Shaun Dows (Shadows) Townsfolk, I urge you, make the right decision today and vote for the real threat. Don't listen to his neutral manipulations; he is not in this to help the town, only to help himself, no matter what he may claim. I speak as one of you, in defense of my town and my people; act now! *The chief sits down and pours himself a drink.*
Quarryman Posted November 9, 2010 Posted November 9, 2010 Well, chief, I've always been supportive of your actions in the past, so for better or for worse I'll stick with you still. But if this turns out to be some ploy on your part I'll be leading the lynch mob against you tomorrow. Just so you know it. Vote: Shaun Dows / Shadows.
Dragonator Posted November 9, 2010 Posted November 9, 2010 Well, chief, I've always been supportive of your actions in the past, so for better or for worse I'll stick with you still. But if this turns out to be some ploy on your part I'll be leading the lynch mob against you tomorrow. Just so you know it. I wouldn't have it any other way my friend, if Shadows turns out to be a loyal townie then I will hand my badge in and you may relieve me of my role as a public servant. But I know I am right, so there will be no need for that.
iamded Posted November 9, 2010 Posted November 9, 2010 Ian Deed (Iamded) – used to be a professional hitman. Alright yes, a long time ago, I was a hit-man. It was a job. But that's in the past for me now, I left that behind and joined this town to move on. So far it hasn't done me any good, someone from my past has been tracking me, wanting me dead. And now they know I'm the one they want. I ask if anyone has the ability to protect, that they protect me tonight. Unlike Stash here, I wouldn't mind seeing this whole debacle through to the end. As for the rest of you who are shamelessly taking this opportunity to vote for Stash, I ask you this; strategically, what are you hoping to achieve by killing him? All we will discover is that he is neutral, and we will have gained nothing. From what I heard, it would seem the owners of the vests would no longer receive protection. That seems like a strategic gain to me. Unless of course it's townies who own the vests, but that just seems unlikely. *The chief sits down and pours himself a drink.* I'll have what he's having.
Shadows Posted November 9, 2010 Posted November 9, 2010 I'll be leading the lynch mob against you tomorrow. Just so you know it. A lynch mob of your fellow neutrals? Please take a moment to tell the town how you plan to kill two of it's citizens for a crime you claim they committed. Mr. Stash isn't the only one with sources of information, you know.
ADHO15 Posted November 9, 2010 Posted November 9, 2010 I'm with you too, Chief! Although I can only go on the words of other people, I must do what is best for my position as a police officer. Vote: Shaun Dows / Shadows
Dragonator Posted November 9, 2010 Posted November 9, 2010 From what I heard, it would seem the owners of the vests would no longer receive protection. That seems like a strategic gain to me. Unless of course it's townies who own the vests, but that just seems unlikely. Well, as far as I (and Stash) know, Sandy and I are the only ones who have vests; she was scum, clearly, however I am not. I don't see why you think it unlikely for a townie to have a vest; as the police chief I am an obvious target, as shown by the attempted murder/conversion of me on night one. As I'm still here, it was obviously prevented if it was a murder attempt, anif it was conversn attempt, which I think more likely, it also failed as I'm unconvertible, as proved by the failed conversion of Rick during night 2, where the converter said "Hello, Rick Russian, I would like to... oh come on! First Drake, now this!". Also note that the vests are provided by a neutral, which indicates that they can most certainly be owned by both sides.
Shadows Posted November 9, 2010 Posted November 9, 2010 Well, as far as I (and Stash) know, Sandy and I are the only ones who have vests; she was scum, clearly, however I am not. I don't see why you think it unlikely for a townie to have a vest; as the police chief I am an obvious target, as shown by the attempted murder/conversion of me on night one. As I'm still here, it was obviously prevented if it was a murder attempt, anif it was conversn attempt, which I think more likely, it also failed as I'm unconvertible, as proved by the failed conversion of Rick during night 2, where the converter said "Hello, Rick Russian, I would like to... oh come on! First Drake, now this!". Also note that the vests are provided by a neutral, which indicates that they can most certainly be owned by both sides. Blah blah blah. The Ronzoni's tried to convert me and failed. They tried to kill me and failed. Their godfather admitted as much while making their dishonest attack against me. It's almost amusing that they're using the police force to do their work now. Maybe they always were, or maybe the speculation is right and you're the source of the third family. Whatever the case, there is no indication that anyone tried to kill you whatsoever. That's one point that I will have to concede to our esteemed Mayor (scum that I think he is)... just because you can't be killed at night or converted doesn't mean you're loyal any more than it proves I am. An investigation would have proven me loyal, but I guess no one bothered. Further, there is no proof that anyone outside the mob has a vest. I don't even need one to be protected at night, my training does that, so why do you? I'd think that a loyal cop would have had some training, but you're hiding in your little vest and getting drunk instead. However this goes, it will have been a revealing day full of evidence that I hope the smarter members of the town will make use of later. I hope to be here to help you with that, but even if I'm not, good luck, you deserve better than what you've gotten from your impotent police force. Be vigilant! Chief of Police Drake Nader (Dragonator) - This clown has a vest. He cannot be killed at night. This guy has been feeding me bits for days now, but lying between his teeth the entire time. I’m sure of it. Amusing that our Chief Drunk would try to use Stash as an alibi now, given what Stash thinks of him. Is anyone paying attention here?
Professor Flitwick Posted November 9, 2010 Posted November 9, 2010 Vote: Shaun Dows / Shadows. I believe I've already stated enough what a threat I think Shaun is. And that statement could be applied to anyone who votes for Stash; we'd be losing someone whose responsible for protecting several townies. Mayor Flint Wick (professor flitwick) – This guy has let the mob ravage our town, now with three families! I wouldn’t be surprised if he was running a secret mob family from the government offices. You are aware that the mob is an incredibly hard thing to fight; they didn't exactly come to me with planning permission, and as you all well know, these mafia members often keep themselves hidden, so it's hard to know your enemy.
Dragonator Posted November 9, 2010 Posted November 9, 2010 Blah blah blah. The Ronzoni's tried to convert me and failed. They tried to kill me and failed. Their godfather admitted as much while making their dishonest attack against me. It's almost amusing that they're using the police force to do their work now. Maybe they always were, or maybe the speculation is right and you're the source of the third family. Blah blah blah, somebody knows they are in tight spot they can't wiggle out of now, don't they? You're the only one speculating here, the rest of us are sticking to what we know, and we know you aren't here to save the town, only yourself. Whatever the case, there is no indication that anyone tried to kill you whatsoever. Oh I agree, as I said I don't think anyone did try to kill me, as the comments from night 2 clearly suggest that it was an attempted conversion that failed. Further, there is no proof that anyone outside the mob has a vest. And there is no proof that vests are limited to the mob, so that is a void point. Is all you do speculate and manipulate? However this goes, it will have been a revealing day full of evidence that I hope the smarter members of the town will make use of later. I concur.
Shadows Posted November 9, 2010 Posted November 9, 2010 Blah blah blah, somebody knows they are in tight spot they can't wiggle out of now, don't they? You're the only one speculating here, the rest of us are sticking to what we know, and we know you aren't here to save the town, only yourself. Talk about speculating... I have done nothing to hurt this town. I haven't stood by and let the mob infiltrate it, I exposed one of their killers. How many of them have you caught so far, Chiefy? And there is no proof that vests are limited to the mob, so that is a void point. Is all you do speculate and manipulate? The only person who had a vest who's alignment has been revealed was scum. That's all the proof either side has. Are you going to try to deny that? Should also add that a real policeman would get his vest from ... the police department, not a green haired fashion designer who sells to the mob.
Dragonator Posted November 9, 2010 Posted November 9, 2010 Talk about speculating... I have done nothing to hurt this town. I haven't stood by and let the mob infiltrate it, I exposed one of their killers. How many of them have you caught so far, Chiefy? It isn't about catching one mafioso bud, it's about consistency and doing what is within your powers to help the town. I have no way of catching mobsters myself, but I do have the power of the vote, and I have used that diligently so far to rid our town of two godfathers. And I am using it again now combined with information from several sources to take down another threat. You took down Carrie for your own gain; I'm taking you down for the benefit of the innocent and for justice. That and you want to kill me, since I'm a public servant. I have made my case, and now I leave this in the hands of you, the citizen body, to make your decision. Please, vote wisely, for a wrong decision here will only send the death toll higher and prolong the presence of the mafia scum in our midst.
Shadows Posted November 9, 2010 Posted November 9, 2010 It isn't about catching one mafioso bud, it's about consistency and doing what is within your powers to help the town. I have no way of catching mobsters myself, but I do have the power of the vote, and I have used that diligently so far to rid our town of two godfathers. I've done all of that, both individually and with the town. Are you sure we should be paying you to do this job that you clearly aren't doing well? You took down Carrie for your own gain; Bitch tried to kill me! I'm taking you down for the benefit of the innocent and for justice. That and you want to kill me, since I'm a public servant. ... according to a convicted scum boy boss. If that's who you consider a legitimate source of evidence ... I have made my case, and now I leave this in the hands of you, the citizen body, to make your decision. Please, vote wisely, for a wrong decision here will only send the death toll higher and prolong the presence of the mafia scum in our midst. Exactly. Now run along and study your police handbook and maybe you can join the adults who are trying to stop the problem that your leadership helped to allow.
Lord Arjay Posted November 9, 2010 Posted November 9, 2010 So the noodle family are in town? Bit of an odd name but whatever, they sound like bad news. Sadly Mr Quest is no longer with us but someone was bound to die in the night. Stash the Stylist/Stash2sixx. You guys need proof to see if what I say is the truth, so the best way is to off me. Along with that, all of the bulletproof vests will become inactive and that will stop some of those goofy blocks on night kills some of you have been getting. Except as our chief pointed out, with you being neutral you could be with us or against us but we wouldn't be able to tell. The easier way to tell wether you were lying or not is to kill one of your confirmed scum. The point about getting rid of these vests is a good one though, if it's only scum who are given these vests then it may be of more benefit to us to just get rid of you. Blah blah blah. The Ronzoni's tried to convert me and failed. Im sorry but when was this? As far as I can tell Officer Price was the first Ronzini scum to be converted. Am I missing something? I'm going to hold off voting for now, until I can go over what's been said in more detail.
Shadows Posted November 9, 2010 Posted November 9, 2010 Except as our chief pointed out, with you being neutral you could be with us or against us but we wouldn't be able to tell. The easier way to tell wether you were lying or not is to kill one of your confirmed scum. The point about getting rid of these vests is a good one though, if it's only scum who are given these vests then it may be of more benefit to us to just get rid of you. Isn't it funny that the people accusing me never thought of maybe killing one of the scum before following the dying ramblings of a scum boss and trying to take me out? Who do they trust more, the mob or Mr. Stash? Who are they protecting, the town or themselves? The saddest part is that they not only don't need to protect themselves from me, but they are opening themselves to danger by allowing the scum to live. Talk about bad logic. Im sorry but when was this? As far as I can tell Officer Price was the first Ronzini scum to be converted. Am I missing something? First day. I was told that I was followed by Sandy, but that she kept her distance and didn't approach. I didn't know what specific action that was to indicate, so I didn't mention it at the time. Later, as she was cornered by all of us, she tried to use that event as an alibi, confirming it happened. After that, she admitted that she knew I couldn't be converted or night killed, proving she'd tried both (and failed). I can only assume that she was allowed 2 conversion attempts at the beginning (since 1 failed).
Dragonator Posted November 9, 2010 Posted November 9, 2010 First day. I was told that I was followed by Sandy, but that she kept her distance and didn't approach. I didn't know what specific action that was to indicate, so I didn't mention it at the time. Later, as she was cornered by all of us, she tried to use that event as an alibi, confirming it happened. After that, she admitted that she knew I couldn't be converted or night killed, proving she'd tried both (and failed). I can only assume that she was allowed 2 conversion attempts at the beginning (since 1 failed). I would dispute that, as Sandy converted Carrie on night one, and there has been no indication that each godfather got 2 actions. In fact, as the night 1 results clearly show each godfather using one action and one action only, I would be willing to say you're flat out lying, which isn't surprising considering how much you've been doing it recently. You have no proof that Sandy followed you whatsoever, the voice in the sky certainly doesn't confirm it, and going by your own logic, we can't trust the word of the scum, can we, so even your so-called alibi is flawed. It's funny, you are quite happy to have us believe Sandy where it suits you, but when we have other sources backing up something else she has said, you're quick to point out that because she was scum she was obviously lying. Hilarious really, how you keep digging your own grave. But I've said enough, it is getting tiresome pointing out all the flaws in your arguments, the town will ultimately reveal the truth in their voting today.
Shadows Posted November 9, 2010 Posted November 9, 2010 I would dispute that, as Sandy converted Carrie on night one, and there has been no indication that each godfather got 2 actions. There was no indication of 3 families until today. This hasn't exactly been the most clearly informative game...of life ever. You have no proof that Sandy followed you whatsoever, the voice in the sky certainly doesn't confirm it It was the voice in the sky that gave me the ability to know who targets me as a member of Night Watch (do you need that confirmed next?) and was the one to tell me who it was. Same as the voice told me Carrie attacked me. Same as the voice telling me that someone had given me "absolute proof" of their innocence, despite that not appearing in the day opening. I know that person provided it to others as well, and I know of many night actions that haven't been shown the next day, so you're actually making a case against a large number of people in the same situation. I'm sure they'll notice the irony there and ignore your stupidity. and going by your own logic, we can't trust the word of the scum, can we, so even your so-called alibi is flawed. She clearly didn't think it was serving as an alibi, she was bitterly attacking me and mistakenly thought that would somehow condemn me. She probably thought that someone would be stupid enough to try to use it against me. Seems she had your number after all, Chiefy. how you keep digging your own grave. If I do, it'll be with a yellow Fabuland shovel, and then I'll break it. But I've said enough, it is getting tiresome pointing out all the flaws in your arguments You haven't done so yet, all you've done is taken one statement by the scum to attempt to trick the town into killing me the only way you can, by vote. Nice attempt, but I have more faith in them than that. They see your vested interest clearly now. On the other hand, if you want us to trust in your skills, how about going after the real scum? Think you can muster up the fruity balls to do so?
Dragonator Posted November 9, 2010 Posted November 9, 2010 It was the voice in the sky that gave me the ability to know who targets me as a member of Night Watch (do you need that confirmed next?) and was the one to tell me who it was. Same as the voice told me Carrie attacked me. Same as the voice telling me that someone had given me "absolute proof" of their innocence, despite that not appearing in the day opening. I know that person provided it to others as well, and I know of many night actions that haven't been shown the next day, so you're actually making a case against a large number of people in the same situation. I'm sure they'll notice the irony there and ignore your stupidity. Incorrect actually. Firstly, we only have your assertions that you were told Sandy targeted you, so that proves nothing. Secondly, every single morning, without fail, we have been informed of what the scum did the previous evening, or more correctly, the outcomes of their conversion and murder attempts. Of course there are other actions out there, but it is the scum ones we see each morning, not those other ones, so your misleading point about false information also holds no sway whatsoever. If I do, it'll be with a yellow Fabuland shovel, and then I'll break it. You monster!! Only a truly wicked person would even conceive of doing such a horrendous thing!
Shadows Posted November 9, 2010 Posted November 9, 2010 Firstly, we only have your assertions that you were told Sandy targeted you, so that proves nothing. I'm not allowed to share what I receive from the voice in the sky. Maybe they do it that way wherever you come from, but my people have dignity and honesty to account for. Secondly, every single morning, without fail, we have been informed of what the scum did the previous evening Only the scum could know that for sure. There is absolutely no way we can know that we've been shown every action. No possible way. You monster!! Only a truly wicked person would even conceive of doing such a horrendous thing! Why is the FBI parked outside your house and your wife sleeping with another man? Now that I think about it, you know for a fact that we haven't been shown every action... if we had, we would have known about the third family before having to be told directly. I always figured we were getting a limited view of things, especially since it's silly to show failures that don't effect the game of life, but now it's clear that we've always been given less than complete information. Want to deny that? Can you tell me what the third family did each night, as shown in the next day opening?
Dragonator Posted November 9, 2010 Posted November 9, 2010 I'm not allowed to share what I receive from the voice in the sky. Maybe they do it that way wherever you come from, but my people have dignity and honesty to account for. In other words, you're bluffing and you have nothing in your hand, not even a pocket ace. Lucky it isn't poker night, aye? Only the scum could know that for sure. There is absolutely no way we can know that we've been shown every action. No possible way. Oh there is no certainty, sure, but it is awfully convenient that the one thing that you could possibly use as an alibi was the action not shown in the morning, isn't it? Why is the FBI parked outside your house and your wife sleeping with another man? Did I hear you mention you were a toaster salesman before you became a teacher? No wonder you're so silver-tongued. Now that I think about it, you know for a fact that we haven't been shown every action... if we had, we would have known about the third family before having to be told directly. I always figured we were getting a limited view of things, especially since it's silly to show failures that don't effect the game of life, but now it's clear that we've always been given less than complete information. Actually, if you look back there is evidence of the third family right from day 1; there were three actions reported at the start of day 2 and day 3, and now we know why; because there are three families. Quite simple, really, I'm surprised you didn't see that.
Shadows Posted November 9, 2010 Posted November 9, 2010 In other words, you're bluffing and you have nothing in your hand In other words, I'm a confirmed member of the Night Watch, a group that has loyally devoted itself to protecting this town and is aware of who targets it at night. I can't provide proof of one specific action because of the voice in the sky and no amount of pushing from you will make me stoop to that level. Lucky it isn't poker night, aye? Poker? I barely know her ... Oh there is no certainty Thank you, your honour, no more questions for this hostile witness. Did I hear you mention you were a toaster salesman before you became a teacher? No wonder you're so silver-tongued. No, I was a Navy SEAL, which is what allows me to do your job for you and not be killed in the process. I don't need a vest from a fashion designer. If you didn't maybe he wouldn't know that you're a liar as he's so clearly indicated. As for my tongue, take a closer look.
Dragonator Posted November 9, 2010 Posted November 9, 2010 In other words, I'm a confirmed member of the Night Watch, a group that has loyally devoted itself to protecting this town and is aware of who targets it at night. Yep, the head of your Night Watch did an admirable job of that, didn't she? Oh wait, that's right, she turned out to be a mobster, how typical. Assertions, that's all you have left now... And don't try and claim you killed her to restore your Night Watch to its pure state, we all know that's a blatant lie, you acted in self-interest on that one, and it worked perfectly for you; not only did you kill a policewoman but you gained a meatshield you could use to put us all off your trail. Well we aren't falling for it any more, bud.
Shadows Posted November 9, 2010 Posted November 9, 2010 Yep, the head of your Night Watch did an admirable job of that, didn't she? Oh wait, that's right, she turned out to be a mobster, how typical. Assertions, that's all you have left now... You mean your police officer who was so poorly trained that she was able to be converted to scum? And then you try to blame me for exposing her and ridding the town of her filth, making it appear I have some imagined goal of killing cops? Desperation, that's all you have left now... And don't try and claim you killed her to restore your Night Watch to its pure state, we all know that's a blatant lie, you acted in self-interest on that one, and it worked perfectly for you; not only did you kill a policewoman but you gained a meatshield you could use to put us all off your trail. Well we aren't falling for it any more, bud. *gasp* I confess! I led the town to kill a police officer! A police officer you hired personally. A police officer who was working for the SCUM and tried to murder me ... WHILE ON DUTY AND BEING PAID BY YOU! *gasps again* You're pathetic, Chief. Clean out your own house before you try to clean up the town. Hell, just clean up your face, you're a drunken mess and you're not doing any of us any good.
Dragonator Posted November 9, 2010 Posted November 9, 2010 You mean your police officer who was so poorly trained that she was able to be converted to scum? And then you try to blame me for exposing her and ridding the town of her filth, making it appear I have some imagined goal of killing cops? Desperation, that's all you have left now... Exactly what I expected to hear, so typical. And as I mentioned above, her conversion worked perfectly for you; not only could you steal control of the night watch from her and manipulate the other members for your own gain, but it gave you an opportunity to both fulfill one of your goals and weevil your way into the trust of some of the townies by vehemently attacking her. But the truth has been exposed now, and your crusade against the Arm of the Law is at an end. I know it, you know it, and the voters know it. If the voters were here that is, looks like it's just you and me right now. You're pathetic, Chief. Clean out your own house before you try to clean up the town. Hell, just clean up your face, you're a drunken mess and you're not doing any of us any good. Yep, clearly you've run out anything possibly useful to say, and in the fashion of the truly guilty are turning to insults. You'll be oinking within the hour.
Shadows Posted November 9, 2010 Posted November 9, 2010 Exactly what I expected to hear, so typical. Yes, it's typical to expose the scum killer who tries to take your life. And as I mentioned above, her conversion worked perfectly for you; not only could you steal control of the night watch from her and manipulate the other members for your own gain, but it gave you an opportunity to both fulfill one of your goals and weevil your way into the trust of some of the townies by vehemently attacking her. I'm sorry, but unless you think I'm some kind of time traveler, I couldn't have known ahead of time that she would be converted, then plan for her to kill me so I could kill her to take control of a group I didn't even know the names of (that's right, none of us were told who the others were except the leader of the group). Since they know all of this is true, they know you're full of crap. But the truth has been exposed now, and your crusade against the Arm of the Law is at an end. I know it, you know it, and the voters know it. If the voters were here that is, looks like it's just you and me right now. Who exposed that? Oh, right, your friend the godfather. No one else has been stupid enough to claim such an idiotic and clearly untrue thing except her and her new followers. I think the voters are smart enough to see exactly what's happening here, we're being led by the dead mob in the form of a puppet police chief. And yes, it is just you and me. Wanna crack open a bottle of something? I'll light some candles ... You'll be oinking within the hour. I'll leave that to the pigs, thanks.
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