def Posted November 10, 2010 Posted November 10, 2010 Vote Count Thnaks for the update. Somehow I took Sok off the no-vote list without adding his vote to the count.
Millacol88 Posted November 10, 2010 Posted November 10, 2010 So we know that if Stash dies the vests are gone... And that the leaders of the mafias have them... Why there is there a silly debate about Dows and Nader??? Clearly we should vote : Stash Thnaks for the update. Somehow I took Sok off the no-vote list without adding his vote to the count. Oh, and I don't appreciate being called "useless" because I hadn't been back since voting started. You truly are living up to your name...
def Posted November 10, 2010 Posted November 10, 2010 Oh, and I don't appreciate being called "useless" because I hadn't been back since voting started. You truly are living up to your name... Would you like a tissue? I was just trying to motivate, take it in stride. I didn't become the leader of Eurodina's baddest biker gang by worrying about people's feelings. Stash: 8 Votes (Stash, Ivan, Shaun, Def, Bendy, JohnPaul, Alice, Millacol88) Shaun: 13 Votes (Draggy, Quarry, ADHO15, Flint, Peanuts, Craig, Eskallon, Legonator, Ron, Bob, Fugazi, Sok, Arjay) Still waiting on... Mr. Alex Burr (Lawyer) (Burman) Chef Kevin Juan (Chef) (The Crazy One) Thomas Bricks (Waiter) (Minxter) Susan Keen (Student) (Surius Black) Gen (Bum) (Genaro) Ian Deed (Biker) (iamded) Harold Hiker (Biker)(HouseofH) Red (Biker) (General Redwater) Walter Kovacs (Student of Kung Pho) (Walter Kovacs) Mr. Ron Canter (Roncanator) Looking at that list, what's up with the biker gang? You allergic to justice?
Shadows Posted November 10, 2010 Posted November 10, 2010 So much I have missed, It looks as though there's two options for today and there both neutral. Shaun definitely seems like the one to take out. We've had multiple people confirm his story of having to take out the government. Talk about missing things, I just noticed your post, sorry. First, multiple people claim I want to kill the government based on the words of the dying mob boss who was trying to seek revenge for my destroying her plans day by day. She admitted as much, if you look at how she wrote her idiotic claims. Everyone else saying it is only repeating her, as if she's a reliable source of information. whether she is or not is for you to decide. Mind taking some time to explain? Might just sway my vote and save your bacon. Detective Quinn's family was killed by two men years ago and he has been seeking to avenge their deaths, much as I am looking for the man who killed my brother. I know this because he told me and asked if I had any helpful information. I asked him for helpful information about my brother. As a result, not only is his vote against me completely misguided and hypocritical (given that he knows my real role), but we're nearly identical personalities. He, like me, is neutral. He has to kill people who did a wrong to him in order to win this game of life. It's really that simple. If you read back, you will also see where one of them admitted to his past (Ian). I find it amazing that I am in danger of dying over scum lies and hypocrisy, given the help I have tried to provide this town with. I'm also amazed that people want to continue to protect the scum by allowing them the use of their bulletproof vests. Honestly, I'm finding this whole game of life to be somewhat amazing for it's insanity.
iamded Posted November 10, 2010 Posted November 10, 2010 If I'm correct, this is the list of useless townies who need to vote. Take part in the game, you cowards. (My apologies if I wrongly included you on this list. Feel free to update it with your name off after you vote) Ian Deed (Biker) (iamded) I am takin' part, boss. I just don't know who to vote for. With so many arguments today, I'm thinking maybe I'll skip the vote. We've got enough people who've set their minds, but I'm not sure which vote would be the right one.
RileyC Posted November 10, 2010 Posted November 10, 2010 Just because I didnt vote for a person doesnt mean im not participating Mr. Dick. I did vote but then unvoted because I was not sure if it was the best thing to do under the circumstances. It may be that voting for Shaun is the best move but that cannot be made sure by anyone as of yet.
Admiral Ron Posted November 10, 2010 Posted November 10, 2010 So, town needs to be doubly on their toes, and not be asking for protection. Maybe there is another way to get protection, but I don't know it. Indeed, but its for a friend, just in case
Dragonator Posted November 10, 2010 Posted November 10, 2010 So we know that if Stash dies the vests are gone... And that the leaders of the mafias have them... Again, that is only speculation, we have no proof whatsoever that the godfathers have vests exclusively. The only vests we know of so far is the one Sandy had and the one I have. Even Stash doesn't know of any others. And as proved by the events of the first two nights, I have conclusive evidence that I am a loyal townie, which I most definitely am. Read back a few pages and you'll see where I carefully explained that.
Shadows Posted November 10, 2010 Posted November 10, 2010 Again, that is only speculation, we have no proof whatsoever that the godfathers have vests exclusively. The only vests we know of so far is the one Sandy had and the one I have. Therefore, the only non-speculation we can make is that the one known dead owner of a vest was scum. Point well made. I have conclusive evidence that I am a loyal townie, which I most definitely am. Read back a few pages and you'll see where I carefully explained that. I can actually do a better job of proving myself to be a loyal townie than you can, Chief Vested-Interest. I may be neutral, but I've been more loyal to the good citizens of this town than you have, and if it wasn't for the volume of your drunken lies, they'd see that. You chase after me because a scum boss tells you that I want you dead (though I've made no move against you at all) and you refuse to go after the scum. As a result, when they kill one of the real loyal members of this town tonight, their blood is on YOUR hands, but that's ok with you, you have a vest to hide in. I still can't believe that anyone needs this explained to them at this point, but fine, I'll go one step further. I have voted with the town every day. Every time the town needed my support, I've given it. I don't want that to end, so here's my offer... You let me live and you control my vote. I can win a lot more easily with the town than without you, and you need every vote you can get to stop the scum. Control me. The second I don't vote with the majority, kill me. I'll start the vote myself the next day. I won't even participate in the discussions if you'd prefer it, only casting my vote when it's needed. How much more can you want from a neutral? Unvote me, town. Look at the past, you know you'll have a much better chance of winning with me than without. Stop listening to the fear and selfishness of the chief, he's safe, he has a vest, don't you all wish you did?
Admiral Ron Posted November 10, 2010 Posted November 10, 2010 Professor Dows, I can see you are in a pickle, but it is not your vote people are afraid of. It is your night actions, which there is no way to control, we are afraid of. But, though it may seem wishy-washy, but I am no longer taking part in this vote, as it appears to be either sides, so I shall stay neutral today. Unvote Shaun Dows/ Shadows
Dragonator Posted November 10, 2010 Posted November 10, 2010 Professor Dows, I can see you are in a pickle, but it is not your vote people are afraid of. It is your night actions, which there is no way to control, we are afraid of. But, though it may seem wishy-washy, but I am no longer taking part in this vote, as it appears to be either sides, so I shall stay neutral today. Unvote Shaun Dows/ Shadows Not making a decision now and doing nothing isn't going to help us at all. Shaun is a liar and out to ruin this town, what more motivation for a vote do you need? He speaks well and sneakily tries to divert the blame, but if you let that get in the way of the truth, then we'll get absolutely nowhere and my sacrifice will have been for nothing.
The Crazy One Posted November 10, 2010 Posted November 10, 2010 Jesus, chill out. I was going to vote anyway. Vote: Shaun.
Shadows Posted November 10, 2010 Posted November 10, 2010 Professor Dows, I can see you are in a pickle, but it is not your vote people are afraid of. It is your night actions, which there is no way to control, we are afraid of. But, though it may seem wishy-washy, but I am no longer taking part in this vote, as it appears to be either sides, so I shall stay neutral today. Unvote Shaun Dows/ Shadows I appreciate your faith and promise not to betray it. As for night actions, I didn't get one, as I've said along the way. I informed my former Night Watch leader of that on day 1, before she was converted and tried to kill me. By process of elimination, it's clear I can't kill, the number of nightly kills can be easily confirmed as scum actions. I'm not sure how to prove any others except to say that there is no one out there who can honestly claim I've tried to do anything at night except grade papers, as I was doing when they tried to kill me. I do know that we have an active peeping Tom who can watch me tonight, and if I so much as get up to pee, he'll know it. I also know that an investigator should still exist who can watch me as well. I'm open to any form of surveillance.
Admiral Ron Posted November 10, 2010 Posted November 10, 2010 Not making a decision now and doing nothing isn't going to help us at all. Shaun is a liar and out to ruin this town, what more motivation for a vote do you need? He speaks well and sneakily tries to divert the blame, but if you let that get in the way of the truth, then we'll get absolutely nowhere and my sacrifice will have been for nothing. Well sir, to be honest the deed is done anyway, and if he dies and is scum, all is well and good. But if he dies loyal, we lose a good member, and a police chief. But I prefer to stay neutral in this particular round of voting, and I feel that we need some more evidence on BOTH sides, not just testimony. I hope you can respect me for that Chief.
Shadows Posted November 10, 2010 Posted November 10, 2010 Not making a decision now and doing nothing isn't going to help us at all. Shaun is a liar and out to ruin this town, what more motivation for a vote do you need? He speaks well and sneakily tries to divert the blame, but if you let that get in the way of the truth, then we'll get absolutely nowhere and my sacrifice will have been for nothing. So much fear, Chief. You really need to let go, maybe drink a little less and meditate more. A clear mind will help you see the truth, but you're clouded by so much hate and unhappiness that you seek refuge in that bottle. It isn't working like it used to, and that means you go deeper inside it, until you lose all track of reality. The reality, and we both know this, is that you haven't been harmed by anyone and no one has tried. You can't be, you have a vest. Your only risk comes with a vote, and no one wants to vote for you, not even me, the person you've so horribly attacked. Find some inner peace and the outside world will follow. Focus and it will become clear. Do your job and maybe these bastards will stop killing the good citizens of this town.
Dragonator Posted November 10, 2010 Posted November 10, 2010 Well sir, to be honest the deed is done anyway, and if he dies and is scum, all is well and good. But if he dies loyal, we lose a good member, and a police chief. But I prefer to stay neutral in this particular round of voting, and I feel that we need some more evidence on BOTH sides, not just testimony. I hope you can respect me for that Chief. On the contrary it isn't done yet, we still need 3 more votes for a definite conviction. Otherwise a couple more people like you and we will have made no progress at all. There is no room for neutrality in this situation; you must choose your side and stick to it, my friend. I know it is tough and I know he lies well, but please, for the good of the town you must make a stand for justice. Evidence is always hard to come by in these games, we all know it, so you aren't going to get anymore. I respect that you don't want to make the wrong choice, but dong nothing now isn't going to save our town.
Admiral Ron Posted November 10, 2010 Posted November 10, 2010 I suppose you are right, but I will still not vote unless it drops to below conviction. I am sorry Professor Dows, but if he is wrong, this town will no longer have a Police Chief.
Dragonator Posted November 10, 2010 Posted November 10, 2010 I am sorry Professor Dows, but if he is wrong, this town will no longer have a Police Chief. Which is why I'm so very happy I know I'm 100% right! I gave my promise people and I will hold to it, as I am a man of honour.
Shadows Posted November 10, 2010 Posted November 10, 2010 I am sorry Professor Dows, but if he is wrong, this town will no longer have a Police Chief. He is wrong about my motives, and honestly, he hasn't been much of a police chief thus far. I wish he would simply stop acting out of fear and start caring about the citizens he is putting at risk. If he had done that, we wouldn't have wasted this entire day and one less scum would walk the streets tonight. He even admits that he knows I'm not scum, how much more neglectful can he be?
Dragonator Posted November 10, 2010 Posted November 10, 2010 I suppose you are right, but I will still not vote unless it drops to below conviction. So you want to make sure he is convicted, but rather than reach a majority now you'd rather prolong the day unnecessarily and give him the chance to escape justice? Each to their own I guess... oink oink oink oink Lovely.
Eskallon Posted November 10, 2010 Posted November 10, 2010 Unvotes: Shaun Dows / Shadows My descion, I have re-read and feel that this is the right thing to do, we are ganging up on someone for the sake of a vote and there could be other more suspicous people to vote for.
Dragonator Posted November 10, 2010 Posted November 10, 2010 My descion, I have re-read and feel that this is the right thing to do, we are ganging up on someone for the sake of a vote and there could be other more suspicous people to vote for. Do you have a more suspicious person to suggest? Because in my opinion the neutral anarchist who is out to kill several townies sure is suspicious to me. We aren't doing this for the sake of a vote, we are doing to to make progress; doing nothing isn't going to get us anywhere. We have to act, and taking out someone who we know is out to gain from the deaths of innocent townies is positive action.
iamded Posted November 10, 2010 Posted November 10, 2010 Well, Drake seems like a good man, he's been a good man to drink with at least. I'll stick by him for now. Maybe after all this he'll remember this, and go easier on us bikers. And that Shaun, he's too unkillable for his own good. There must be some catch, he's a slippery fish that one... Therefore, I vote: Shaun Dows/Shadows.
Shadows Posted November 10, 2010 Posted November 10, 2010 Do you have a more suspicious person to suggest? Because in my opinion the neutral anarchist who is out to kill several townies sure is suspicious to me. We aren't doing this for the sake of a vote, we are doing to to make progress; doing nothing isn't going to get us anywhere. We have to act, and taking out someone who we know is out to gain from the deaths of innocent townies is positive action. Stash suggested a number of suspicious people, but you're not concerned with that... oh, right, you're one of them. Now please stop lying. The only person who has claimed that I am an anarchist is the dead scum bitch boss and a paranoid police chief. Oh, right, that's you again. Your police detective Quinn Mann benefits from the death of innocent townies, are you after him today, or will that hold for tomorrow? Oh, right, you don't care about that, you don't think he's out to get you. I'm starting to see a pattern here.
Eskallon Posted November 10, 2010 Posted November 10, 2010 Stash suggested a number of suspicious people, but you're not concerned with that... oh, right, you're one of them. Now please stop lying. The only person who has claimed that I am an anarchist is the dead scum bitch boss and a paranoid police chief. Oh, right, that's you again. Your police detective Quinn Mann benefits from the death of innocent townies, are you after him today, or will that hold for tomorrow? Oh, right, you don't care about that, you don't think he's out to get you. I agree, focus on someone from stash's list rather than someone who is allegedly trying to kill police...
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