Hero Factory 2011

[kentaiscool]

http://mymegatoys.de/search.php?orderby=position&orderway=desc&search_query=hero+factory

scroll down and there is new pictures of hero factory

Edited November 21, 2010 by kentaiscool

[vexorian]

Oh, it seems they are just copy pasted from the old preliminar pics we have seen before. At first I thought they were the final CGI.

Edit: on second thought, I can see differences between furno's new pic and the stuff from the catalog. Yeah they are new. First time I've seen the confidential sign on top of what looks to be the final cgi. Then again, I am still new here.

It seems there is going to be a code in the canister you can put in the internet. Hope the goodies are something better than what we had in glatorian times.

Anyway the villains have not improved as much as I hoped. The highlights I think are the trans armor in firelord and jetbug but from the looks of it, it is going to be neon orange instead of the new, better looking trans orange. Drill dozer pretty clearly has something that looks like a hero core. Evo has dark blue and not purple. Fire lord is a mess. It seems they are trying a titan build using the new HF 2.0 parts. But that concept is still very young, so they are basically starting from 0 instead of using old Bionicle ideas. This will get better in later sets but for now it seems that fire lord will be remembered for not getting it right.

Oh and Fire lord seems to have the odd "hero core" piece from Drill Dozer as well. We already know (quite clearly) that Drill Dozer used to be a HF robot, so take your guess...

Edited November 21, 2010 by vexorian

[Mesonak]

Those have been there for weeks; I didn't post them because I thought they were the same stuff we've already seen.

I see no differences between the same old pictures from the catalog except they're on a white background.

-Mesonak

Edited November 21, 2010 by Mesonak

[The Dor]

Anyway the villains have not improved as much as I hoped.

That's because they're still preliminary, in fact, I'm pretty sure they are the exact same as what we've already seen.

Oh and Fire lord seems to have the odd "hero core" piece from Drill Dozer as well. We already know (quite clearly) that Drill Dozer used to be a HF robot, so take your guess...

How do "we" know that Drill Dozer used to be a HF robot...? Nitroblast has that same piece on his leg armor, as well as on his torso AND left arm. I'm fairly certain it's just armor.

[Bfahome]

How do "we" know that Drill Dozer used to be a HF robot...? Nitroblast has that same piece on his leg armor, as well as on his torso AND left arm. I'm fairly certain it's just armor.

I think he's referring to the fact that one of the prelim pics listed someone named "Bill Dozer" in the background. If so, then I don't think that's much to go by.

[vexorian]

Bill Dozer being Drill Dozer is almost a given.

That's because they're still preliminary, in fact, I'm pretty sure they are the exact same as what we've already seen.

Well they are not exactly the same. This ones have better resolution (were made for computer display rather than print) and in case of the villains they are no longer cut. They are less preliminary than the old ones. After seeing these pics, I don't think the villains are going to change that much.

How do "we" know that Drill Dozer used to be a HF robot...? Nitroblast has that same piece on his leg armor, as well as on his torso AND left arm. I'm fairly certain it's just armor.

didn't pay much attention to nitroblast because he doesn't have a detailed cgi pic and only the box. But that's right, those pieces are likely not to be hero cores. Which is something I don't like seeing how they seem to be used in the same red color in three of the villains. Add some variety TLG... Edited November 21, 2010 by vexorian

[The Crazy One]

How do ''we" know that Drill Dozer used to be a HF robot...? Nitroblast has that same piece on his leg armor, as well as on his torso AND left arm. I'm fairly certain it's just armor.

Because in one of the catalogue pictures there is a list of Hero names and there was one called Bill Dozer. There was also a Mac Brainy.

[Aanchir]

Bill Dozer being Drill Dozer is almost a given.

...If there ever was a character named Bill Dozer, which doesn't have to be the case. Remember that anything preliminary is subject to change-- that includes preliminary story information, as BIONICLE fans can surely attest to.

It's still possible that that story info might be valid. It's also possible that "Bill Dozer" and "Mac Brainy" could have been preliminary names for Nex and Evo. Or that the idea of Drilldozer having been a hero was considered, but later scrapped. So we can't really claim to know anything about story info for the upcoming Hero Factory sets besides the tiny blurbs included on websites selling the sets (i.e. the heroes are defending HF station 22 from the villains).

[The Dor]

Well they are not exactly the same. This ones have better resolution (were made for computer display rather than print) and in case of the villains they are no longer cut. They are less preliminary than the old ones. After seeing these pics, I don't think the villains are going to change that much.

I am looking at the first pictures we got of the villains and the pictures on that site, and I can find absolutely no difference. I agree, there probably won't be much difference between these and the final products, but saying that these are more finalized products isn't a valid justification.

Same goes for Evo using blue instead of purple. I don't know how likely purple is, probably not very, but I'm still hoping it's the final color.

[vexorian]

I'll just say I see no reason to think they will change the Bill Dozer storyline. It is typical in hero stuff and there really was no reason to include it in the retailers' catalogs if they weren't serious about it.

I am looking at the first pictures we got of the villains and the pictures on that site, and I can find absolutely no difference. I agree, there probably won't be much difference between these and the final products, but saying that these are more finalized products isn't a valid justification.

I am doing the same.

The First villain pictures are cut (They do not show the villains in their entirety), and even the highest res version of the catalog is not as good in resolution. The pics in the site are simply more finalized, hard to explain but the graphics are sharper.. You couldn't really pick on the villain's details and colors with the old pics. Even though they are in the same pose and use the same pieces. I don't know...

I don't think the villains are going to change much or at all now.

Edited November 21, 2010 by vexorian

[dviddy]

After seeing these pics, I don't think the villains are going to change that much.

I think that at least Fire Lord will change quite a bit from the preliminary images.

Quite a bit.

[Front]

I think the six heroes use quite a lot of colours

[Zip]

I think that at least Fire Lord will change quite a bit from the preliminary images.

Quite a bit.

It's like you're almost teasing us for something, Deevs. Is this the BZP surprise- finalized HF pics?

[_shaddow_]

I think the six heroes use quite a lot of colours

I REALLY hope this does mean each hero has a different head/hero core color, which means EVO would be purple.

[The Dor]

I am doing the same.

The First villain pictures are cut (They do not show the villains in their entirety), and even the highest res version of the catalog is not as good in resolution. The pics in the site are simply more finalized, hard to explain but the graphics are sharper.. You couldn't really pick on the villain's details and colors with the old pics. Even though they are in the same pose and use the same pieces. I don't know...

Well, what's probably the case is that they're the same images, just edited differently. A combination of this (large image warning) and this make me think that is the case. The box pictures ARE exactly the same, but with a quality change due to printing and then scanning as opposed to just posting the original image.

And now I'm really curious to see Fire Lord in order to see how big of changes can be made during the finalization process.

[dviddy]

I think the six heroes use quite a lot of colours

I agree.

[Brickthing]

I am looking at the first pictures we got of the villains and the pictures on that site, and I can find absolutely no difference. I agree, there probably won't be much difference between these and the final products, but saying that these are more finalized products isn't a valid justification.

Same goes for Evo using blue instead of purple. I don't know how likely purple is, probably not very, but I'm still hoping it's the final color.

Looking at the images that Vex kindly saved, I'm fairly sure that purple is the final colour. Prelim images have never been rendered as nicely as Evo in the top right. (Unfortunately all the purple looks solid purple rather than trans-purple, but it's better than blue.)

As for the Fire Lord, the image of him on the linked page above is probably a simple render of the final set, but I'm not entirely sure. The upper arm armour is no longer trans-orange, there are some Technic pieces on the back of the arm (adjustments like these might be on the legs as well), and the lower arm armour might be a different armour piece. The colour scheme looks slightly more cohesive as well, but you can't see much of it and it's probably simplified in the simple render.

I'm probably very late to realize this, but the various villains each seem to have a different armour piece in trans-orange. Perhaps a gimmick that includes the summer wave of HF will be collecting the pieces to create a Fire/Energy Hero? Kind of like the golden armour of the Stars, only the pieces are incorporated into the sets.

Has anyone else noticed that in the first post image of the villains, Drilldozer & Fire Lord and Jetbug & Nitroblast look like they have flip-masks of each other? I hope this isn't the case, because it would reduce the individuality of each set, and the second faces could be distracting from the back. The sides look different, but the center details of each pair are identical.

[Aanchir]

Looking at the images that Vex kindly saved, I'm fairly sure that purple is the final colour. Prelim images have never been rendered as nicely as Evo in the top right. (Unfortunately all the purple looks solid purple rather than trans-purple, but it's better than blue.)

...But keep in mind that these images are from a flash game, and flash games (like a lot of other media) sometimes are based on prelim images or otherwise inaccurate designs. Consider that Toa Inika Hewkii had brown armor in the interactive Piraka Online Animations, or that the Barraki's animations from their Bios pages had prototype squid launchers. Even the BIONICLE movies used occasionally used prototype versions of the large sets as a basis for their design, simply because the sets weren't always finalized when character design process began (this is why the Kikanalo in the second movie looks closer to the prototype of the set than to the actual set released with Toa Lhikan).

As for the Fire Lord, the image of him on the linked page above is probably a simple render of the final set, but I'm not entirely sure. The upper arm armour is no longer trans-orange, there are some Technic pieces on the back of the arm (adjustments like these might be on the legs as well), and the lower arm armour might be a different armour piece. The colour scheme looks slightly more cohesive as well, but you can't see much of it and it's probably simplified in the simple render.

I agree that Fire Lord looks more finalized in this image than he did in the preliminary catalog images. I'd place my bets on this one being closer to the final set, since he uses the new-style Y-joints in this image (look at his left elbow). His color scheme seems to make a lot more sense in this image as well, although we should all keep in mind that most of the biggest color scheme issues were present in his legs-- for instance, the use of bright yellow parts on his feet and nowhere else on the model, or the use of dark red parts on his upper legs. Still, this seems to be a legitimate reason to get our hopes up, and I certainly won't be telling anyone "told ya so" if the final set ends up with a color scheme as unattractive as the prototype version's.

I'm probably very late to realize this, but the various villains each seem to have a different armour piece in trans-orange. Perhaps a gimmick that includes the summer wave of HF will be collecting the pieces to create a Fire/Energy Hero? Kind of like the golden armour of the Stars, only the pieces are incorporated into the sets.

I have doubts about that sort of gimmick-- I myself think it's more just a way of giving the villains fiery-hot color schemes while still keeping them unique-looking and giving them plenty of variety in what colors their parts come in. The intent is the same-- giving people a reason to buy as many different sets as possible-- but I don't think it'll be marketed the way the Golden Armor was.

Has anyone else noticed that in the first post image of the villains, Drilldozer & Fire Lord and Jetbug & Nitroblast look like they have flip-masks of each other? I hope this isn't the case, because it would reduce the individuality of each set, and the second faces could be distracting from the back. The sides look different, but the center details of each pair are identical.

It doesn't look anything like that in the game images, so I doubt that'll happen. I think it's just the fact that the prelim versions have such similar textures and motifs to one another that makes it look like that.

In other news, what heads do you think these villains will have? Nitroblast obviously looks to have just a y-joint, since his only visible "eye" is a Barraki eye, and there's no chin showing behind the holes in his mouth in any pictures. Drilldozer and Fire Lord look like either the new-style Hero head or the Glatorian head could be used, possibly in transparent fluorescent reddish orange like so much of the villains' armor. But which style head they use is still up in the air-- if it's a Hero head piece, that leads to the new revelation that the Hero head, like the Glatorian heads, has axle holes in the sides. I've got my bets on Glatorian heads, though-- not that I mind that at all. Jetbug is also a mystery-- the shape of his head, though, would imply a regular Y-joint. Wonder if it'll be one of the new-style ones in transparent fluorescent reddish orange.

[The Dor]

It doesn't look anything like that in the game images, so I doubt that'll happen. I think it's just the fact that the prelim versions have such similar textures and motifs to one another that makes it look like that.

Actually, if you look at the back part of Jetbug's head you can clearly see Nitroblast's eye piece.

Also, you can see Drilldozer's "eyebrows" on the back of Fire Lord's head.

Edited November 22, 2010 by The Dor

[Bfahome]

FFFFFFFFFFFFF

:|

Oh well, I never really liked the villains anyway.

But I noticed that Drilldozer's left hand is one of the new armor pieces with one of the new blades attached, and Nitroblast has a similar setup on the wrist of his right arm. It seems the new blade has pegs to attach to the armor, so that'll be interesting.

[The Dor]

FFFFFFFFFFFFF

:|

Oh well, I never really liked the villains anyway.

Hey, dual masks aren't that bad. I'm actually quite a fan of them.

But I noticed that Drilldozer's left hand is one of the new armor pieces with one of the new blades attached, and Nitroblast has a similar setup on the wrist of his right arm. It seems the new blade has pegs to attach to the armor, so that'll be interesting.

Yeah, you can see the little nubs on Fire Lord's horns. I want to see how well they attach to Jetbug's head.

The more I look at the villains' constructions, the more confused I get. How do they have so many things attached to their backs? Are Drilldozer's arms really that pathetic? Does he have unique torso armor? What's the deal? It makes me even more excited for them to come out. At least the Heroes seem straightforward enough.

[Bfahome]

Hey, dual masks aren't that bad. I'm actually quite a fan of them.

I sort of like dual masks too. The problem is that the villains' maskhelmetheads looked a bit large to begin with, and now they're going to be weirdly long (see: Jetbug). Plus the fact that they have clearly-defined faces on them makes it weirder– at least the '09 dual helmets had more ambiguous-looking openings (and the Spikitelluris one didn't really work that well for the "Agori" face).

[The Dor]

I sort of like dual masks too. The problem is that the villains' maskhelmetheads looked a bit large to begin with, and now they're going to be weirdly long (see: Jetbug). Plus the fact that they have clearly-defined faces on them makes it weirder– at least the '09 dual helmets had more ambiguous-looking openings (and the Spikitelluris one didn't really work that well for the "Agori" face).

I don't know how bad that is, in this case. Jetbug and Nitroblast looked like they had long heads anyway, and I didn't think that was a bad thing. Of course, I'm going to withhold my final judgment until we get pictures of the actual sets, but from what I can tell it's probably not that bad. But it does just come down to personal tastes.

[Zarkan]

I think that at least Fire Lord will change quite a bit from the preliminary images.

Thank goodness. Otherwise, I can't see that set being added to many people's "best of lego constraction figures" lists. I still hold by my opinion that, at least in his prototype form, he ie easily the worst titan-sized set we have ever gotten out of either Bionicle or Hero Factory.

[Mesonak]

Finalized Hero Factory 2011 images in this BZPower post.

No matter how, I will admit, good Fire Lord looks on that awesome box art, he's still the worst titan we've ever gotten.

Edited November 27, 2010 by Mesonak