Hero Factory 2011

[Aethersprite]

Fangz looks really cool, but I don't see how the spears are supposed to serve as fangs. They look odd attached to the head with the old hand piece. I'm probably removing it when I get him.

Oh, and thanks for the link to the gallery, Aanchir!

[Bfahome]

New part! New part!

<3

Also, Witch Doctor looks bare and jumbled from the back, but damn he'd make a great parts pack. How many red single ball joints does he have? 20? And he totally has that digitigrade thing going for him.

Also Rocka XL has some white bone pieces. And some entirely unnecessary pieces on his back just ripe for the scrappening. Definitely on my buy list.

Edited February 20, 2011 by Bfahome

[Aethersprite]

Thanks for the pic, Bfahome - nearly forgot about BZP's coverage. Anyway:

I'm a bit worried here - with the red blade pieces (which I hope get recoloured to silver) attached to the Exo-Force arm only by a single half-pin, wouldn't that make them extremely flimsy and loose?

[Brickthing]

New part! New part!

That is a very strange part, but I want some! It looks like it would be useful in making a vehicle with the new system.

I'm glad that the BZP coverage provided some alternative angles, although a back-shot of Rocka XL would've been nice as well.

I have a suspicion that Raw-Jaw uses a new torso piece to achieve armour on both sides*, and that Fangz might use a new ball+pin piece to connect the 2nd and 3rd printed backplates. A axle/pin piece and either of the existing balls would work, but they'd come apart far too easily.

*Nevermind, I figured out a working alternative.Although two of the hypothetical ball+pin pieces would work even better...

I'm a bit worried here - with the red blade pieces (which I hope get recoloured to silver) attached to the Exo-Force arm only by a single half-pin, wouldn't that make them extremely flimsy and loose?

I don't think so - the spikes in 2.0 sets are connected quite strongly, and the new wrist pieces the Exo-force arms are attached to would be designed to hold the arms tightly.

[Aethersprite]

I don't think so - the spikes in 2.0 sets are connected quite strongly, and the new wrist pieces the Exo-force arms are attached to would be designed to hold the arms tightly.

Well, I was referring to the connection between the blade and the Exo-Force arm. The spikes in the 2.0 sets had longer pins that the pieces with 2 pins (Okay, this sounds REALLY confusing, but I can't think of another way to get my point across ) so they'd be more secure.

Anyway, any chance Bulk's blades will be recoloured to silver like on the prelims?

[The Dor]

Also Rocka XL has some white bone pieces. And some entirely unnecessary pieces on his back just ripe for the scrappening. Definitely on my buy list.

The white bone pieces might actually be light gray, but it's hard to tell due to lighting. In some pictures they look white, in others they look light gray. Also, they are one of the new bone pieces I speculated about earlier. Probably 90615. This gives me hope that there will be more of the "missing" bone pieces. :)

I have a suspicion that Raw-Jaw uses a new torso piece to achieve armour on both sides*, and that Fangz might use a new ball+pin piece to connect the 2nd and 3rd printed backplates. A axle/pin piece and either of the existing balls would work, but they'd come apart far too easily.

*Nevermind, I figured out a working alternative.Although two of the hypothetical ball+pin pieces would work even better...

Raw-Jaw seems to have a lower limb bone on his back, attached via Av-Toran connection piece. Hence the little cup near the "neck" of the underarmor piece on his back. Fangz seems to have the same construction, with the possible new piece you mentioned, but I figure it's just as likely to be ball + axle/pin piece. I hope it's a new piece, because it would fit extremely well into the new theme, but I don't think it's all that likely.

Well, I was referring to the connection between the blade and the Exo-Force arm. The spikes in the 2.0 sets had longer pins that the pieces with 2 pins (Okay, this sounds REALLY confusing, but I can't think of another way to get my point across ) so they'd be more secure.

Is there any reason to believe the pins on the spikes from the 2.0 wave are actually longer? They look about the same length to me, and I can't think of a reason for LEGO to shorten them.

Anyway, any chance Bulk's blades will be recoloured to silver like on the prelims?

I certainly hope they are silver, because they look dreadful in red and black (on Bulk). I would put their color down to simple mistakes by the builders'.

So, with all the new angles, I'm really excited for another wave of Heroes, as well as some new villains, especially Raw-Jaw and Witch Doctor. Witch Doctor looks like such a good titan in my opinion, despite the fact that he seems to be basically a BIONICLE titan, not a Hero Factory one. But that's okay! We've got Scorpio as a good example of an almost entirely new system titan. And he looks amazing, too.

Also, Jimi is not impressed with his nickname. He just looks so serious! I love it.

Edited February 20, 2011 by The Dor

[Brickthing]

Well, I was referring to the connection between the blade and the Exo-Force arm. The spikes in the 2.0 sets had longer pins that the pieces with 2 pins (Okay, this sounds REALLY confusing, but I can't think of another way to get my point across ) so they'd be more secure.

Anyway, any chance Bulk's blades will be recoloured to silver like on the prelims?

I think the new blades would've been designed with Bulk's use in mind, or perhaps the Exo-force arms have been adjusted slightly to have more friction. At any rate, it's unlikely they'll include a flimsy connection in his design.

I hope they will be silver, because it would look better, and the black/red blades are meant to represent corrupted Quaza spikes, which wouldn't make sense on Bulk (unless it's a story detail?). I wouldn't mind whichever way, because I really love the black/red blades.

Raw-Jaw seems to have a lower limb bone on his back, attached via Av-Toran connection piece. Hence the little cup near the "neck" of the underarmor piece on his back. Fangz seems to have the same construction, with the possible new piece you mentioned, but I figure it's just as likely to be ball + axle/pin piece. I hope it's a new piece, because it would fit extremely well into the new theme, but I don't think it's all that likely.

Is there any reason to believe the pins on the spikes from the 2.0 wave are actually longer? They look about the same length to me, and I can't think of a reason for LEGO to shorten them.

The version I've built uses one of the Av-Toran/ball pieces from Drilldozer to connect the torso armour to the torso piece, as well as to connect the neck to the torso. It works, but it seems a stud too high, which suggests to me that he uses the possible new ball piece.

I'm not sure, but because there are two rods connecting the piece instead of one, having shorter rods might make it easier to remove.

[Aethersprite]

The version I've built uses one of the Av-Toran/ball pieces from Drilldozer to connect the torso armour to the torso piece, as well as to connect the neck to the torso. It works, but it seems a stud too high, which suggests to me that he uses the possible new ball piece.

I'm not sure, but because there are two rods connecting the piece instead of one, having shorter rods might make it easier to remove.

Seems Fangz also uses the abovementioned piece to attach the first 2 back spikes, while the third is on a ball attached to the torso.

[Bfahome]

The white bone pieces might actually be light gray, but it's hard to tell due to lighting. In some pictures they look white, in others they look light gray. Also, they are one of the new bone pieces I speculated about earlier. Probably 90615. This gives me hope that there will be more of the "missing" bone pieces. :)

They look white when compared to other white-looking pieces in the images, and, given Rocka's color scheme, white seems to be the more likely option.

The version I've built uses one of the Av-Toran/ball pieces from Drilldozer to connect the torso armour to the torso piece, as well as to connect the neck to the torso. It works, but it seems a stud too high, which suggests to me that he uses the possible new ball piece.

I can't see how Rawj's armor is connected, but here you can see his neck attached by a piece that sloped down into the torso. So there may be a new pin+ball piece, I dunno.

Anyway, time to fawn over the pieces I see in RXL:

5x gunmetal Hero Under-armor piece

4x gunmetal new small armor piece with clip

8x silver new large curved blade

7x silver new small straight blade

7x gold medium Hero limb armor

6x silver Exo-Force robot arm (hey, they're useful)

8x black straight ball connector (aka Glatorian neck)

2x gold new large Hero claw connector/shield style A

2x black new large Hero claw connector/shield style B

2x red ball with through axle hole

3x black greatest piece ever (aka 3L ball/socket combination) (aka bottom center)

and of course numerous bone pieces, the white head and core, black hand, etc.

Edited February 20, 2011 by Bfahome

[_shaddow_]

I'm not sure it's been talked about already, but here is a comparison between the toy fair version of stormer and his box.

(too bad i can't even put the pics directly on the topic...)

Look at the differences in the lower part of the helmet, do you think the toy fair one is the definitive one or is it some plastic that hadn't been scrapped off of a prototype piece ?

[Aanchir]

I'm not sure it's been talked about already, but here is a comparison between the toy fair version of stormer and his box.

(too bad i can't even put the pics directly on the topic...)

Look at the differences in the lower part of the helmet, do you think the toy fair one is the definitive one or is it some plastic that hadn't been scrapped off of a prototype piece ?

Given that the "name badge" is more finalized on the "out-of-box" Stormer, it's far more likely that the "out-of-box" Stormer is more finalized than the canister pic. But it's also possible that neither will be the final version. We really have no idea until actual finalized images (or the sets themselves) begin to emerge.

Also, by using image tags you can make pics show up directly on the topic, as long as you're careful to use small enough images.

[_shaddow_]

Given that the "name badge" is more finalized on the "out-of-box" Stormer, it's far more likely that the "out-of-box" Stormer is more finalized than the canister pic. But it's also possible that neither will be the final version. We really have no idea until actual finalized images (or the sets themselves) begin to emerge.

Also, by using image tags you can make pics show up directly on the topic, as long as you're careful to use small enough images.

Yes, i know for the image tags, but for whatever reason it won't let me use it in this topic. For the helmet, you got a point, so i guess all we have to do is to wait the official pictures.

[duncan bulk]

I can't get enough of Rocka 3.0, Rocka XL, Stringer 3.0, Bulk 3.0, Witch Doctor, Fangz, and Raw-Jaw; the rest are okay but don't appeal to me as much as the new sets I listed. I will save up till I have enough for the listed sets but I can't make a review because my camera broke so no pics either :(.

[The Dor]

The version I've built uses one of the Av-Toran/ball pieces from Drilldozer to connect the torso armour to the torso piece, as well as to connect the neck to the torso. It works, but it seems a stud too high, which suggests to me that he uses the possible new ball piece.

I believe I have an accurate skeleton built in front of me right now. You can clearly see in this picture the cup above his butt. This could only be possible with a limb piece connected to his back. Also, if you look closely you can see a light gray peg hole just to the right of his shoulder armor, which leads me to believe he uses an Av-Toran connector + probably 90607.

Seems Fangz also uses the abovementioned piece to attach the first 2 back spikes, while the third is on a ball attached to the torso.

Fangz has the front armor piece attached to the front joint of a limb bone. The other two are connected via separate ball joints, possible the new piece Brickthing proposed.

They look white when compared to other white-looking pieces in the images, and, given Rocka's color scheme, white seems to be the more likely option.

That's true. There are a few shots that it looks very different from the other white pieces, but that's probably due to the shadows from other pieces.

I can't see how Rawj's armor is connected, but here you can see his neck attached by a piece that sloped down into the torso. So there may be a new pin+ball piece, I dunno.

The piece I think you see is one of:

black greatest piece ever (aka 3L ball/socket combination) (aka bottom center)

Then connect a new double-cup to it, and attach the armor to the middle, mask piece onto the armor, Hordika neck onto the other socket, attach tusks, there you go.

[Bfahome]

The piece I think you see is one of:

[insert context here]

Then connect a new double-cup to it, and attach the armor to the middle, mask piece onto the armor, Hordika neck onto the other socket, attach tusks, there you go.

I think the greatest piece ever aka bottom center has the ball attached to his head and what you're seeing is the socket from the neck. Of course, now that I think about it, there could be a second greatest piece ever aka bottom center attached to that which then attaches to a limb piece attached by an Av-connector.

so MYTH BUSTED

Or confirmed or something.

At any rate, he's got a limb as a second spine and it's attached by an Av-connector.

Edited February 20, 2011 by Bfahome

[Aethersprite]

For some reason Bulk's badge really reminds me of the police dog emblem in the City sets.

Anyway, any idea how Fang's head is attached to its body?

Edited February 21, 2011 by Lockon Stratos

[The Dor]

Anyway, any idea how Fang's head is attached to its body?

I'm fairly certain it's attached via a 4 length armor piece, which is connected to a short limb bone (such as the shins on the Heroes, hence the gray), which is then connected to its main body. This explains how the fang-spears are attached as well, with the armor on the middle ball and the fang-spears on the end ball.

... If that makes sense.

[Ro87n]

Very nice pictures, now it has very much more value. I could realy use those new joint and joint socket parts.

Goog going, and keep the pictures comming

[Jouster]

New CGI stuff: http://ca.gizmodo.com/5764236/lego-heroes-2011/gallery/2

[Jetrax99]

New CGI stuff: http://ca.gizmodo.com/5764236/lego-heroes-2011/gallery/2

prototypes galore XD......but still, thanks for sharing

[Aanchir]

There's a beautiful light gray part on Witch Doctor's hips. It's also used to attach the black spikes to his staff, and in the construction of his shoulders. Does anyone know what that piece is, or whether this is its first appearance? It's definitely a Technic rather than a Hero Factory piece, since it uses purely Technic connections and stylistic considerations.

Pity all the summer-wave pictures are still preliminary... many of those for other themes were finalized, so we could draw more decisive judgments. Overall, Waspix and Raw Jaw are still my favorite villains for the summer wave. Witch Doctor is OK, but seems over-reliant on Technic to get the job done. Fangz is cool but just doesn't appeal to me, and I don't like Scorpio at all (the non-matching legs bother me greatly).

I'd like to get Bulk and Stringer from the summer wave, just because I'd like a "full set" of wave one Heroes in their new 2.0-3.0 forms (I know... I hate when people use the argument of "completing a collection" to justify getting sets that don't appeal to them, and here I am using it now). To be fair, it might just be that I don't see the point in getting "duplicates" of Stormer and Furno. Same with Nex-- I like his 2.0 version's weapons better, anyway, although to be perfectly honest neither version draws me in the same way as some of the other sets. Perhaps it's just because so few 2.0-3.0 era parts match his colors.

Not sure if I like Rocka. If I do get him, I'll just get the small version. I don't buy many sets purely for the parts, except the occasional duplicate of a set I already own. And despite Rocka XL having a more flowing design than Fire Lord, I just don't like him quite as much for some reason. It might be that the crazy blades everywhere detract from the simplicity and streamlining that I tend to love in Hero Factory set designs.

[TheDesuComplex]

There's a beautiful light gray part on Witch Doctor's hips. It's also used to attach the black spikes to his staff, and in the construction of his shoulders. Does anyone know what that piece is, or whether this is its first appearance? It's definitely a Technic rather than a Hero Factory piece, since it uses purely Technic connections and stylistic considerations.

Yeah, It's a new Technic piece. It came out just this winter in the 8069 Backhoe and 8067 Mini-Mobile Crane in Black. I see the ones on Witch Doctor as silver, however. If they are, i'm probably buying WD just for those.

[Bfahome]

It might be that the crazy blades everywhere detract from the simplicity and streamlining that I tend to love in Hero Factory set designs.

Fortunately, it looks like it's going to be easy to strip all the extra stuff off and use it to upgrade other heroes. Which is my exact plan.

Anyway, anyone else think Furno 3.0 should've used Hahli Mahri wings instead of those new blades? Then they could've given him a new weapon to offset the reuse.

[Shine]

I count 25+ of the newer style ball joint in red on Witch Doctor. <3

There also appears to be a combination of a ball joint and friction pin holding on the wolf thing's back armor.

[VBBN]

Pity all the summer-wave pictures are still preliminary... many of those for other themes were finalized, so we could draw more decisive judgments.

Actually, as far as I have been told, what you see here is finalized. The box pictures are the prelims, the sets shown at toyfair themselves are the final versions and no changes will be made to them.