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My scans of the Savage Planet comic are here, and scans (from someone else) of the Ordeal of Fire comic are here.

I think it would be very helpful if these links were added to the first post of this topic.

-Toa Of Justice

Thanks. That figures, I've seen the OoF comic before.

Still - is the Savage Planet comic you linked to that Youtube vid? :wacko:

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Thanks. That figures, I've seen the OoF comic before.

Still - is the Savage Planet comic you linked to that Youtube vid? :wacko:

Correction: I posted that link

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New video on lego.com : My link

titled under evil witch doctor is stealing quaza in the video section

Some really nice effects used on the upcoming season of the 3.0 sets :classic:

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New video on lego.com : My link

titled under evil witch doctor is stealing quaza in the video section

Some really nice effects used on the upcoming season of the 3.0 sets :classic:

Yep, Aldous has officially lost it. His laugh sounds so....."cliche".

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If you look closely near the end of the video you can see a hero getting attacked by a Fangz. The hero looks like Evo at first, but if you look closely it seems its Rocka 2.0, as he has a Surge 2.0 headgear, Evo weapon, and you can see a bit of white in his armor.

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For some reasons, movie Raw-Jaw looks WAY bigger than the toy version. Niiiiiiiiiccccee...

I believe you mean Fangz.

Am I the only one that notices that the skull on his staff isn't on its usual place and is instead floating beetween the spikes? :tongue:

By the way, when Aldous laughs, his staff is glowing blue. (I'm sure you all noticed this)I don't want to release my crazed thoughts, but... THAT'S VON! :laugh:

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After wtahcing Ordeal of FIre and the Witch Doctor laugh, I have to say they're doing no justice to what those mvoies could be, specially on voice acting. Damn, the three first Bionicle ones were so much serious...

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After wtahcing Ordeal of FIre and the Witch Doctor laugh, I have to say they're doing no justice to what those mvoies could be, specially on voice acting. Damn, the three first Bionicle ones were so much serious...

Very true. Bionicle 4 didn't fare much better, so it's the company that's making these movies that's to blame, not the story. I'd love a more serious HF show with some better action than constantly shooting at air and horrible melee battles at such a slow pace a snail could dodge the blows (example: Xplode vs Stormer in ROTR ep 1). One of the greatest letdowns I had with HF so far is Von Nebula. I loved the guy's voice in the show, the buildup to him was probably the best part of the show. But then that entire last episode of Rise of the Rookies had me cringing from start to finish. After I watched how they dealt with Von Nebula... I died a little inside.

I don't think age is an excuse either. Call it ridiculous, but when I was a kid watching saturday morning cartoons, we had Digimon on TV, and the action and story of that show can give HF a run for its money. Digimon people! :wacko:

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Its true, the Hero Factory TV is not what it should be. In an ideal world we should have brutal fights with the robots tearing eachother apart. (You can tell I have just seen Transformers! :laugh:) Speaking of Transformers, it was only a 12a, so tone it down a bit, with no human violence, you could easily get rid of the imprison the bad guy endings and more decapitate the bad guy endings! :tongue:

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After wtahcing Ordeal of FIre and the Witch Doctor laugh, I have to say they're doing no justice to what those mvoies could be, specially on voice acting. Damn, the three first Bionicle ones were so much serious...

BIONICLE in general was a much more serious theme. Hero Factory is just an episodic adventure story, while BIONICLE aimed to be a grand epic with a huge expanded universe. In other words, TLG's in-house answer to Star Wars.

I do agree, though, that I'm not too happy with the TV episodes in terms of voice acting. I much prefer the voice talent at ADVANCE used in Hero Factory FM and various online animations. Zib's voice in particular has a lot more character in Hero Factory FM than it does in Rise of the Rookies.

Very true. Bionicle 4 didn't fare much better, so it's the company that's making these movies that's to blame, not the story. I'd love a more serious HF show with some better action than constantly shooting at air and horrible melee battles at such a slow pace a snail could dodge the blows (example: Xplode vs Stormer in ROTR ep 1). One of the greatest letdowns I had with HF so far is Von Nebula. I loved the guy's voice in the show, the buildup to him was probably the best part of the show. But then that entire last episode of Rise of the Rookies had me cringing from start to finish. After I watched how they dealt with Von Nebula... I died a little inside.

I don't think age is an excuse either. Call it ridiculous, but when I was a kid watching saturday morning cartoons, we had Digimon on TV, and the action and story of that show can give HF a run for its money. Digimon people! :wacko:

As far as I know, yeah, the company doing the animation for the Hero Factory episodes and BIONICLE 4 (Threshold Animation Studios) is indeed a smaller-budget option than the company responsible for the first three BIONICLE movies. And so this could explain any problems with the fight scenes, which did lack the careful choreography seen in the first three BIONICLE movies. With that said, I really enjoyed some of the stuff produced by this company, including the TLR and the Clutch Powers movie, and a lot of the other production crew for these were the same. I'll refrain from listing specific reasons I like these movies so that this topic doesn't descend into "reminding Aanchir why he has terrible taste in movies, books, and creative works in general".

I think the problem with Von Nebula wasn't how they dealt with him, but how they failed to deal with him. His "backstory" involves him acting like a jerk and not being shown to receive even the slightest consequence for it. It did help Stormer's backstory make a bit more sense, as it gave Stormer something to irrationally take responsibility for, which in his case is a part of his character. But in Von Nebula's case this utterly failed to explain any thirst for revenge he might have.

I suppose the time constraints of the single-episode time slot could be blamed in part, but at the same time the episodes in general could have been better organized to offer more gradual revelations of Stormer and Von Ness's story, rather than just being a card to pull occasionally to build mystery and explain Stormer's character faults. Telling next to nothing about that backstory in the first three episodes and then just playing the whole thing as a flashback in the last episode when it seems least relevant didn't really give the series a solid foundation.

With that said, other parts of the miniseries, particularly Furno's character development, were great. I think part of the problem with the miniseries may have been too much time and attention spent on Furno and not enough spent characterizing the other heroes and villains. This is one of the reasons the Clutch Powers movie stands out from TLR or the Hero Factory episodes-- it's a team-based story that manages to give each team member the screen time and character development they deserve. And it makes it abundantly clear that age is not a factor, as it's plainly a much "kiddier" story than TLG's other recent animated endeavours-- and yet it manages to be the best of the bunch. It's a shame there won't be another Clutch Powers movie as far as I'm aware, although there is apparently a "4-D" mini-movie in LEGOLAND parks that's fairly good.

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I love it, personally.

But perhaps I'm just easy to please; I never find much to complain about in Hero Factory, even though I know there's plenty there.

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I don't agree serious equals grim and dark. I just wish the TV series stepped away from the toddler humor. It's for kids, sure, but you don't have to treat them like they're... eh, well, not sure how I can put this nicely. if you want an example of moments I'd rather not see that would help the series tremendously (IMHO, of course): Furno escorting Rotor to the Hero Craft after he arrested him... It was just cringe-worthy. Better yet, just scrap Rotor entirely, he was just painful to watch... >.< I liked Breez's "Is Green still my colour?" much better as an attempt at humor, to be honest. Of course, I have yet to fully watch Ordeal of Fire, so I have no idea if it's level of humor is any higher than Rise of the Rookies' one.

Personal opinion, of course.

I think the problem with Von Nebula wasn't how they dealt with him, but how they failed to deal with him. His "backstory" involves him acting like a jerk and not being shown to receive even the slightest consequence for it. It did help Stormer's backstory make a bit more sense, as it gave Stormer something to irrationally take responsibility for, which in his case is a part of his character. But in Von Nebula's case this utterly failed to explain any thirst for revenge he might have.

A very valid point, though when I said "how they dealt with him" I wasn't really referring to how the makers of the series dealt with him, but the heroes... You have this powerful looking figure in this wowing Black Hole... and then... good lord I barely can write it down. No fight, just Stormer tackling him and sucking him into his own staff... That was just... pathetic. And I won't even bother with the final battle between 4 heroes vs the 4 villains. Sad, sad, sad. :cry_sad:

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There are many different ways to approach "seriousness" in Hero Factory

On one hand, yes, I wish it was more serious. Of course, it's never going to be as strong as Bionicle was, because it's not supposed to. Granted, I think they need t brach out a ittle because soon having Furno 45.0 is going to get a little ridiculous. But back to the topic at hand, yes, the villains are goofy. Mostly the voices, but the way they act(More the first wave villains, the fire villains were a little more threatening) Now, i that an issue? Well, no, goofy is okay, IF used right. Take for example, Krekka. Yes, he was a dufus, but he had muscle and could fight. Take the Joker or the Riddler from Batman, Both funny, and yet both very threatening. THAT is what I want to see. If the villains are going to be goofy, that's fine, but they at least muct be truley threatening.

And of course, epic fight scenes would be nice...

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Well... Looks like I'm not the only one that thinks that. I have a lot of things to say about this "situation". But I prefer to keep it in silence. Just because I don't like be in things like this. Gentlemen, what can we do with this? I mean, we have to do something with this amazing set line.

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Well... Looks like I'm not the only one that thinks that. I have a lot of things to say about this "situation". But I prefer to keep it in silence. Just because I don't like be in things like this. Gentlemen, what can we do with this? I mean, we have to do something with this amazing set line.

Firstly, welcome to Eurobricks, may I suggest introducing yourself in the Introductions forum!

Keep it in silence, why is that?

And there isnt anything we can do really, we can complain all we want but unless everyone in the world stops watching the show and stops buying the figures, lego isn't going to do much at all. That's why we write fanfics, animations, etcetc.

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Oh, sorry. I'm Jaggersmann, I had a problem with my password... Maybe is just me, but I feel that we can do something. If we don't include the commercial part of Lego, maybe it could be an amazing history. Also I got a few ideas, but it's a pity that I can't make them true. But remember, is all for the kids, so if we want to see a serious story we will have to see it in a book or novel. Because TV is for kids.

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There are many different ways to approach "seriousness" in Hero Factory

Agreed, I find HF's premise to be pretty similar to Tiger and Bunny. Heck, the two protagonists are even the stereotypical "rookie hero" and "veteran hero" (no sidekicks). It's another superhero show, that unlike the "grimdark" Marvel anime currently out there, actually embraces the fun superhero feel of old. Right down to the puns. And yet, it can be very serious when it wants to (The Jake Martinez episodes... man).

Hero Factory should take a few pages from this show for its plot.

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As far as the Hero Factory series goes, the only voice acting I take issue with are Surge's and Breez's, they're just irritating. The rest I honestly enjoy.

The story is kinda flimsy, and misses a lot of potential it builds up, but it's entertaining enough, and by no means does it need to be more grimdark. That's just silly.

Fight choreography, on the other hand, could stand to have a lot of improvement. It's pretty mediocre, to be honest.

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I think it was posted a few pages ago and agreed those were fake....likely but fake.. :wink:

Ya but if they are real people shud be prepared for the worst because u know if they go with a pirate theme the heroes will look pretty stupid...or maybe not but either way im getting them :classic:

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