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  1. 1. Which is your most favorite Delta 7B Starfighter?

    • Anakin Skywalker's Delta 7B Starfighter
    • Obi-Wan Kenobi's Delta 7B Starfighter
    • Ahsoka Tano's Delta 7B Starfighter
    • Plo Koon's Delta 7B Starfighter
    • Kit Fisto's Delta 7B Starfighter
    • Mace Windu's Delta 7B Starfighter
    • Keelyvine Reus' Delta 7B Starfighter
    • Luminara Unduli's Delta 7B Starfighter
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Wow they are good KDM I don't like TLG JS, their just to over done and under shaped, but yours are perfect. pirate_thumbup.gifpirate_thumbup.gif

Other wise the light green on Kit Fisto’s ship is a little to bright TLG don't do the perfect green for it, but Keelyvine Reus's ships colours are incredible. Very good MOC's.

Thank you Mr Man! The lime green parts in Fisto's JSF are actually spray painted since the round piece is not available in lego lime color. Spray painting that particular piece meant I had to repaint the other lime pieces as well for color consistency.

The lime green parts in Fisto's JSF are actually spray painted.

Really wow I couldn't tell they where painted, I once tried to spray some bricks and it failed completely :laugh:

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Really wow I couldn't tell they where painted, I once tried to spray some bricks and it failed completely :laugh:

Yeah, spray painting can be a pain in the gluteus maximus when done incorrectly. I do have some tips that I shared over at the MCW forum regarding spray painting lego pieces --> clickey. It might be useful to those who might want to try it.

Very nice work, KDM. I like Plo's JSF best, but only because it has the most interesting pattern and a good color scheme (Kit's, while interesting, is just a bit too jarring).

I like the fact that you got the R2 units facing the right way. Too bad you can only fit the head and not the bodies.

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Very nice work, KDM. I like Plo's JSF best, but only because it has the most interesting pattern and a good color scheme (Kit's, while interesting, is just a bit too jarring).

I like the fact that you got the R2 units facing the right way. Too bad you can only fit the head and not the bodies.

Thanks Walter! I never knew TLG had the astromechs facing the wrong way (sideways)? And BTW, my JSFs can fit whole astromechs inside, I just covered up the space above the legs for accuracy. Only downside is, you have to remove those 'cover parts' when you put the astromech inside. But I don't play with these anyway and just display them, so no problemo! default_blink.gif

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I was sorting my photo files and found out I forgot to post the modified interiors of my Delta 7Bs.

The images show the various elements squeezed in the cramped 2x5 interior space:

- control panel

- control stick

- seat with movable back-/head-rest

- back storage space for lightsaber

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Ah. I forgot that that thing we call CW invented some weird line-of-sight-blocking variant.

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

Well, it was fine for Anakin and his Azure Angel (since he's an exceptional pilot in the first place) but I don't know why they would make similar models for all the other Jedi, especially since Anakin should have already begun using the newer Eta-2s. Darn retcons! (And don't forget, this is the NEO-Clone Wars. The real Clone Wars begun in '03 and ended with Grievous's kidnapping of Palpatine in Chapter 25.)

As for the new MOCs, KielDaMan, I noticed that they all have pointed tips now, which look fantastic. It's too bad you didn't replace those curved slopes in the front like I suggested, but it's Neo-Clone Wars. so I don't mind too much.

Now, be aware that it's gotten to the point where I don't want to look at the 'real' Delta-7B rendering any more than I have to, but I really think one of the things you could improve with these is the exaggeration of the grooves in front of the guns. Moving the guns further inward so that they're right up against the phallic central section is also recommended. Also, try and minimize the portion directly behind the bubble canopy - it looks like the fin should cut into the bubble.

Have you covered up the engines so that there's a smoother transition into the ventral surface, or have you left them mostly exposed, as on the Delta-7? I believe the former is more accurate.

The sideways-facing astro-droid was actually the first inaccuracy I noted with that blocky yellow thing LEGO called Anakin's Jedi Starfighter back in '08... as well as in several other sets (the 7660 N-1, the 7658 Y-wing, etc.)

Great MOCs KielDaMan :cry_happy: I like your use of colors especially in Plo's starfighter as it's a much more accurate blue. Great seat design and lightsaber storage. One change I would make is the Astromech droid hieght. On several fighters, it sits one level too low, cutting off the printing/dome. (just a suggestion) I can't wait to see Mace's official starfighter, but from what I've seen so far, yours seems more accurate in color. It appears that Lego's version has way too much gray and patterning, but that may just be their interpretation of all the faint lines on his starfighter.

Amazing work!

Loving your seat design KDM! :thumbup:

The cockpit looks cramped, but you have nicely managed to fit everything in there. :thumbup:

Could you tell me what your next MOC is going to be? :sweet:

CF

What really stinks is that the Poll above makes us choose which ONE is our favorite, not all that apply. These are awesome KDM, love every single one of them. Do you have instructions for these? I have a TLG one from EP 2 I would love to mod and these are simply awesome.

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As for the new MOCs, KielDaMan, I noticed that they all have pointed tips now, which look fantastic. It's too bad you didn't replace those curved slopes in the front like I suggested, but it's Neo-Clone Wars. so I don't mind too much.

Now, be aware that it's gotten to the point where I don't want to look at the 'real' Delta-7B rendering any more than I have to, but I really think one of the things you could improve with these is the exaggeration of the grooves in front of the guns. Moving the guns further inward so that they're right up against the phallic central section is also recommended. Also, try and minimize the portion directly behind the bubble canopy - it looks like the fin should cut into the bubble.

Have you covered up the engines so that there's a smoother transition into the ventral surface, or have you left them mostly exposed, as on the Delta-7? I believe the former is more accurate.

The sideways-facing astro-droid was actually the first inaccuracy I noted with that blocky yellow thing LEGO called Anakin's Jedi Starfighter back in '08... as well as in several other sets (the 7660 N-1, the 7658 Y-wing, etc.)

I could still remember the time when I posted my first version of these JSFs and you were the distinct one to really comment on how could I improve the design of these ships. I really appreciate those constructive criticisms and somehow I managed to address some, actually, only one, of the suggestions that you made:

1. Pointier tip - check

2. Curved slopes in front - my problem is there seems to be no piece/set of pieces that is pryamidal in shape and will taper into a point for the front hull. Also, I have to take into account the provision of interior space for the astromech body.

3. Grooves in front of the guns - achieveable but it would require using various wedge plate pieces vs. one whole 6x12 wedge plate.

4. Back fin cutting into the bubble canopy - can be done too but would entail redesigning whole the rear part. Also, having the fin 'cut' or partly placed above the bubble will mean a one-stud wide tail fin (which I'm not fond of) and I believe the current thickness of the flags is more accurate.

5. Covered engines - achievable too, but I did not put any redesigning emphasis on the oft-forgotten underside part.

Miscellaneous: I've also though of making a SNOT build for the wings, but I'm always discouraged by the difficulty of achieveing the signature patterns of each ship using SNOT approach.

Another thing I had to consider is modifying the design would entail redesigning of all of these 8 individual ships, and due to time, resource, and inspiration/drive limitations, it took me several months to come up with an updated version. Overall, I know my JSF designs are far from perfect, but I will take your suggestions in mind and in the right time I might just be able to address these issues and make my JSFs more accurate. Anyway, I really appreciate your constructive criticisms fallenangel! default_classic.gif

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In fact I'm not really fan of the D7 but your collection is a really nice work.

The blue version (Plo Koon’s Delta 7-B Starfighter) is my favorite.

I'm also not a huge fan of this type of starfighter, I much prefer the ones used in ROTS (ETA2's?). But my daughter has Ahsokas' JTS and I can see what you have done here is a vast improvement on TLGs efforts :thumbup:. I also really like the results you're getting from spray painting - I imagine doing all the masking is a painstaking process? Very impressive - I wouldn't have the guts to spray my Lego.

My vote goes to Plo for the most striking graphics.

I'm also not a huge fan of this type of starfighter, I much prefer the ones used in ROTS (ETA2's?). But my daughter has Ahsokas' JTS and I can see what you have done here is a vast improvement on TLGs efforts :thumbup:. I also really like the results you're getting from spray painting - I imagine doing all the masking is a painstaking process? Very impressive - I wouldn't have the guts to spray my Lego.

My vote goes to Plo for the most striking graphics.

Same for me, I could never bring myself to alter the color of LEGO. Kudos for that, KDM. Mostly I think it's because I reuse a lot of parts, so recoloring for one MOC isn't a practical option.

Oh, and you're correct, they're Eta-2 Actis Interceptors in Ep. 3.

Very nice work, KDM. I like Plo's JSF best, but only because it has the most interesting pattern and a good color scheme (Kit's, while interesting, is just a bit too jarring).

I like the fact that you got the R2 units facing the right way. Too bad you can only fit the head and not the bodies.

It's not that he can't fit the bodies, it's that the LEGO bodies aren't scaled to minifigures.

I could still remember the time when I posted my first version of these JSFs and you were the distinct one to really comment on how could I improve the design of these ships. I really appreciate those constructive criticisms and somehow I managed to address some, actually, only one, of the suggestions that you made:

1. Pointier tip - check

2. Curved slopes in front - my problem is there seems to be no piece/set of pieces that is pryamidal in shape and will taper into a point for the front hull. Also, I have to take into account the provision of interior space for the astromech body.

3. Grooves in front of the guns - achieveable but it would require using various wedge plate pieces vs. one whole 6x12 wedge plate.

4. Back fin cutting into the bubble canopy - can be done too but would entail redesigning whole the rear part. Also, having the fin 'cut' or partly placed above the bubble will mean a one-stud wide tail fin (which I'm not fond of) and I believe the current thickness of the flags is more accurate.

5. Covered engines - achievable too, but I did not put any redesigning emphasis on the oft-forgotten underside part.

You're quite welcome KielDaMan. I'm just happy that people on this forum are willing to take my suggestions into account, as I do like seeing others' creations improve over time (unlike the 6212 X-wing, but that rant belongs elsewhere). And the pointed tips are enough to improve the look of the ships significantly.

After having seen rear views of the Delta-7B, I really did think the cockpit area could have been improved to look more bulbous. But it looks like you've done all you can with the flag, so I wouldn't worry about it too much.

By the way, Windu's Eta-2 is purple and dark grey, with a pattern similar to that of Anakin's Eta-2. You may have been thinking of his astromech droid, which is white. See Clone Wars Chapter 23. (You referred to it as being purple and white in the other thread, so...)

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Great MOCs KielDaMan default_cry_happy.gif I like your use of colors especially in Plo's starfighter as it's a much more accurate blue. Great seat design and lightsaber storage. One change I would make is the Astromech droid hieght. On several fighters, it sits one level too low, cutting off the printing/dome. (just a suggestion) I can't wait to see Mace's official starfighter, but from what I've seen so far, yours seems more accurate in color. It appears that Lego's version has way too much gray and patterning, but that may just be their interpretation of all the faint lines on his starfighter.

Amazing work!

Thanks Cad Bane! But I can't understand your comment on the astromech droid height. You mean I should make it lower? I think that's already the perfect height considering I have to expose the whole dome head even if it blocks the view of the pilot.

Could you tell me what your next MOC is going to be? default_satisfied.gif

UP NEXT: Christmas is the Season of Giving.. default_classic.gif

It's technically not a MOC, but you'll see it what it is when it's up. It's actually already finished, and just waiting to be posted at the right time. default_blink.gif

What really stinks is that the Poll above makes us choose which ONE is our favorite, not all that apply. These are awesome KDM, love every single one of them. Do you have instructions for these? I have a TLG one from EP 2 I would love to mod and these are simply awesome.

Sorry, I never realized I could set-up a poll with multiple vote choices. I already edited it now so you could choose more than one JSF.

Instructions? Keep a watchful eye on the SW forum in the upcoming days.. default_blink.gif

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In fact I'm not really fan of the D7 but your collection is a really nice work.

The blue version (Plo Koon’s Delta 7-B Starfighter) is my favorite.

Thanks for the comment, though I know how extremely unpopular these 'triangles' are among non-CW fans.

I'm also not a huge fan of this type of starfighter, I much prefer the ones used in ROTS (ETA2's?). But my daughter has Ahsokas' JTS and I can see what you have done here is a vast improvement on TLGs efforts :thumbup:. I also really like the results you're getting from spray painting - I imagine doing all the masking is a painstaking process? Very impressive - I wouldn't have the guts to spray my Lego.

My vote goes to Plo for the most striking graphics.

Thanks Praiter! Regarding the spray painting, yeah it seemed to have been my signature technique, especially when desperate times call for desperate measures (read: lego parts in unavailable colors :grin:).

Ooh, teasers! :tongue:

So would the right time be Christmas Eve?

Close, but depending on the current rate, it might be earlier. :classic:

Thanks Praiter! Regarding the spray painting, yeah it seemed to have been my signature technique, especially when desperate times call for desperate measures (read: lego parts in unavailable colors :grin:).

Close, but depending on the current rate, it might be earlier. :classic:

I'm more of a 'desperate times call for illegal techniques' kinda guy. Find another pice that has a similar effect and find a way to attach it.

I see...

Thanks Cad Bane! But I can't understand your comment on the astromech droid height. You mean I should make it lower? I think that's already the perfect height considering I have to expose the whole dome head even if it blocks the view of the pilot.

Actually, I was referring to the piece that covers part of the dome (so raised) but I now realise that you wanted to cover the legs to give the impression that the astromech is facing forward, not sideways. To accomplish this, you had to cover the legs with a piece that also covers the bottom sliver of the dome. Sorry about the misunderstanding. Also, now that I've seen the official version of Mace's fighter, I'm liking yours more and more. Lego really screwed up on that one by the looks of the pictures. Though I hope new pictures and reviews will shine a better light on the product. Keep up the awesome work. Maybe Saesee's Starfighter when/if it appears. (hint of some sort of flying vehicle with Seasee in it during 2nd half of season 3 preview)

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Actually, I was referring to the piece that covers part of the dome (so raised) but I now realise that you wanted to cover the legs to give the impression that the astromech is facing forward, not sideways. To accomplish this, you had to cover the legs with a piece that also covers the bottom sliver of the dome. Sorry about the misunderstanding. Also, now that I've seen the official version of Mace's fighter, I'm liking yours more and more. Lego really screwed up on that one by the looks of the pictures. Though I hope new pictures and reviews will shine a better light on the product. Keep up the awesome work. Maybe Saesee's Starfighter when/if it appears. (hint of some sort of flying vehicle with Seasee in it during 2nd half of season 3 preview)

Now I get your point, thanks for clarifying. Actually, I did try to lower the cover piece by one plate thickness before. Yeah the whole head is fully exposed, but the problem is part of the body gets exposed too, which I don't want. To be honest, I'm already quite satisfied with the current set-up of the droid socket. Anyway, thanks for sharing your thoughts, I really appreciate it. :wink:

Regarding Mace's JSF, thanks if you find it that way. I don't mean to brag or anything, it's just that TLG's design has a lot of design flaws that is unacceptable to me, so I had to modify and essentially redesign my JSFs to satisfy my 'accuracy craving'. I know my designs still ain't perfect, but I'm continually addressing the remaining inaccuracies to improve them further.

And I'm quite excited to see if Seasee will have his own Delta 7-B in the second half of Season 3. Rest assured if there will be new Delta 7-B designs, I'm sure to add them to my growing JSF collection. :classic:

Do you have any of TLG Delta B's (Anakin, Ahsoka, Plo Koon, or Mace Windu's) to compare with your own?

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Do you have any of TLG Delta B's (Anakin, Ahsoka, Plo Koon, or Mace Windu's) to compare with your own?

Unfortunately, I don't have that much resources to have both my versions and the TLG ones. As I've said before, the only official TLG JSF that I got was Anakin's, and the rest were built from scratch (ordered parts from BL). The best I could provide you are the comparison photos with TLG's versions and the reference photos of these Delta 7-Bs.

anakin_jsf.jpg

obi-wan_jsf.jpg

ahsoka_jsf.jpg

plo_koon_jsf.jpg

mace_windu_jsf.jpg

kit_fisto_jsf.jpg

luminara_jsf.jpg

keelyvine_reus_jsf.jpg

For reference purposes, I've added these comparison photos in the first post.

  • 4 months later...

Major bump!

2. Curved slopes in front - my problem is there seems to be no piece/set of pieces that is pryamidal in shape and will taper into a point for the front hull. Also, I have to take into account the provision of interior space for the astromech body.

I have found a solution!*

When you posted your original JSF collection on Eurobricks, I made this suggestion:

KielDaMan to achieve the wedge around the cockpit I would suggest using those huge 3x12 wing plates (like on the 6205 V-wing) but at an angle, perhaps with click hinges. In other words, SNOT would be the best technique

To be honest, I wasn't exactly sure how to pull this off myself, but I really thought that the 3x12 wings would be ideal. I remained in this state until I came across spacie's entry in the FBTB HybridFighter contest:

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This was exactly what I was talking about. The use of the wing plates provides that sharp look that is characteristic of the Delta-7 and Delta-7B.

Now, I am aware that this method is not directly applicable to your models because there exists a difference in size. I would** simply move the entire plated structure just forward of the bubble canopy (this would also leave room for the astromech as well as allow the canopy to sit flush).

*Hooray for accuracy craving!

**Sydag's solution is also an excellent alternative, though I admittedly prefer spacie's.

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