snefroe Posted May 29, 2006 Posted May 29, 2006 I believe the KK logo was included on the packaging so that it could be sold on the shelves with other Knights items in Japan; my understanding is that elsewhere it'll be a web/LEGO Store exclusive. I've noticed a funny trend. Back in the good old times of classic Castle, Pirates etc. good sets were part of everyday's life, they were in the shops, they were nothing "special" in a sense of availability. Today a set better than average, like this one, is often an exclusive limited issue, sold only online, not everywhere (AFAIK there are a lot of countries to which S@H doesn't deliver stuff, mine included) and so on. you're right i see several possible reasons: 1) they want to boost the sales of their own SAH. get a higher profit there compared to the costs of the system. It's fairly new , as you said, a trend, I think it's part of the new strategy of the company. 2) larger, expensive sets don't sell as well as the smaller sets. many shops probably don't want high quantities of larger sets and if they do want lots of large sets they'll probably want them, not all at once, but in small batches in a 6-12 month period... so Lego would be better off by keeping these sets in large quantities for their own shops. distribution of these sets is just too expensive. 3) they'll probably also try to control all economics involved with these particular sets. that way they can be as flexible as possible... Quote
phoinix Posted May 29, 2006 Posted May 29, 2006 the set is now on brickset..so i has to be real... http://www.brickset.com/search.aspx?Set=10176-1 Quote
Dreamweb Posted May 29, 2006 Posted May 29, 2006 They must have just added it... I checked about 5 hours ago and it still wasn't there :-) Quote
Khorne Posted May 29, 2006 Posted May 29, 2006 Wow, I'm speechless. I sure hope this is just a proto, because if that were the real one, TLC would really show that they have little fantasy left for castle. It looks just the same as King Leo's castle, the only differences are the torture thing and other minor ones. Where does this even fit in in the current KK line? Quote
Berry Syedow Posted May 29, 2006 Posted May 29, 2006 Wow, I'm speechless. I sure hope this is just a proto, because if that were the real one, TLC would really show that they have little fantasy left for castle. It looks just the same as King Leo's castle, the only differences are the torture thing and other minor ones. Where does this even fit in in the current KK line? KhoRne, it doesn Quote
DarthBrick429 Posted May 29, 2006 Posted May 29, 2006 What if this is just an early design for a 2007 set of Knights Kingdom? Who knows? This is just a wild guess. I mean, the sets this year did come out quite earlier. Quote
Berry Syedow Posted May 29, 2006 Posted May 29, 2006 What if this is just an early design for a 2007 set of Knights Kingdom? Who knows? This is just a wild guess. I mean, the sets this year did come out quite earlier. LEGO - Knights Kingdom < 10176 Royal King Castles > July sale schedule With a month to go I seriously doubt that they will make any major modifications to this set. What you see is what you'll get, like it or not. :-/ Quote
Norro Posted May 29, 2006 Posted May 29, 2006 Where does this even fit in in the current KK line? It's KLC2...(King Leo's Castle 2) X-D God Bless, Nathan Quote
catch-22 Posted May 29, 2006 Posted May 29, 2006 I just wonder why they would re-release this instead of a real classic castle set. Quote
gylman Posted May 30, 2006 Posted May 30, 2006 I just wonder why they would re-release this instead of a real classic castle set. Parts in stock, cost per part, price point are more practical compared to a real classic like 6080 and 6085. Too bad though. Quote
erao Posted May 30, 2006 Posted May 30, 2006 What if this is just an early design for a 2007 set of Knights Kingdom? Who knows? This is just a wild guess. I mean, the sets this year did come out quite earlier. This is a pre-order set on amazon.co.jp. Release date is July,09,2006. http://www.amazon.co.jp/gp/switch-language...anguage=en%5FJP I guess TLC is trying to consist the story of KK ! & KK II, re-write the story between King Leo (Lion) and the evil ally. In KK I, the enemy is Cedric (Bull). By now, in the picture of 10176, you can find another character (seventh figure) http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=185419 The armour is the same with Dracus (KK II, 2006). this guy's shield is Dragon http://www.bricklink.com/catalogItemPic.asp?S=8705-1 I suppose the Bulls & Dragons attack the Leo's Castle in the new KK I story. Finally, Leo won the war. The Cedric became Leo's man. The mark of old Bull (KK I) is very similar with KK II wave 3's Adric. So I suppose the Bulls become the ally of Lions. The color changed to red instead of black. http://www.bricklink.com/catalogItemPic.asp?S=8704-1 The loser dragons found new ally Scorpions & Snakes. It's the begining of KK II. Quote
Slobey Posted May 30, 2006 Posted May 30, 2006 I just wonder why they would re-release this instead of a real classic castle set. It's NOT a re-release. It is simply a castle inspired by King Leo's (and much better IMO) and Royal Knights Castle. Bricklink has plenty of classic castle sets for sale, give me a new design any day- even if it does have it's flaws. *knight* Quote
Berry Syedow Posted May 30, 2006 Posted May 30, 2006 I guess TLC is trying to consist the story of KK ! & KK II, re-write the story between King Leo (Lion) and the evil ally. In KK I, the enemy is Cedric (Bull). By now, in the picture of 10176, you can find another character (seventh figure)http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?f=185419 The armour is the same with Dracus (KK II, 2006). this guy's shield is Dragon http://www.bricklink.com/catalogItemPic.asp?S=8705-1 I suppose the Bulls & Dragons attack the Leo's Castle in the new KK I story. Finally, Leo won the war. The Cedric became Leo's man. The mark of old Bull (KK I) is very similar with KK II wave 3's Adric. So I suppose the Bulls become the ally of Lions. The color changed to red instead of black. http://www.bricklink.com/catalogItemPic.asp?S=8704-1 The loser dragons found new ally Scorpions & Snakes. It's the begining of KK II. That's an interesting theory. I am curious as to how they plan to continue the knights kingdom if at all. Did they ever announce the winner of that one create a faction/knight contest? Do we know where they're headed with that? Quote
Norro Posted June 2, 2006 Posted June 2, 2006 I am beginning to wonder if this was pitched as the follow up to KK1, but marketing pulled the jjelly bean stunt, and now in an effort to release a slightly nicer castle product they got this unfinished idea off the shelf and flushed it out with spare parts... God Bless all, Nathan Quote
Berry Syedow Posted June 9, 2006 Posted June 9, 2006 Here's some nice close-ups of 10176, found at classic-castle. Quote
Jipay Posted June 9, 2006 Posted June 9, 2006 Come on people, when was the last time a picture was posted that actually WAS fake? NEVER! So why would this be. While I am fairly sure this is a real set now, there have been fake pics out there. I have seen quite a number of fake box art pics. Granted, the vast majority of them aren't trying to pass them off as the real thing, but they could. Here is one example, made up for the Wayne Manor contest. On a completely different note, I wonder if Lego will start a series of 'themed' spring cleans like this? It still doesn't solve the bley issue, but some people might be glad to have them... It would make sense, if that is what it is. Still seems like a strange set to me...I am going to withhold judgement until it is avaliable to buy. It is screaming "prototype pics" to me. But, hey, I've been wrong before. Josh Fake rarely hit the forntpahe though, it happened only once in more than 250 news posted Quote
SWMAN Posted July 20, 2006 Posted July 20, 2006 Just ordered it on Lego.com on 7/19. It looks awsome. it has classic castle, with awsome new features like the forge and torture chamber. Those are a good use of that under space that is usually wasted. Figures look kind of weird, mix between KK and old king leo. Still, I am excited about the arrival. Quote
gusmoore17 Posted July 21, 2006 Posted July 21, 2006 Groovy!! I'll wait for you to do a pic review! (oops, I have mine already, jejeje, no matter this one is official and mine isn't) :-D Quote
SWMAN Posted July 21, 2006 Posted July 21, 2006 Groovy!! I'll wait for you to do a pic review!(oops, I have mine already, jejeje, no matter this one is official and mine isn't) :-D Don't know if i'll do one. I'll just have to see if someone does one first. I don't think it is available in retail, only lego stores, so many people might not get it before i do. It will get here monday, which is only 5 days after its release on wednesday. By the way, as anyone else ordered this set? From the sounds of this post, no one has yet. I know it was just released wednesday, but I know a lot of people who order as soon as something is out. And, if someone has who lives on the east coast, you will probably get it before me. Don't wait to see if I am going to do a photo review before you do one. I am more than happy to let anyone do one. Quote
ellerb Posted July 23, 2006 Posted July 23, 2006 Groovy!! I'll wait for you to do a pic review! (oops, I have mine already, jejeje, no matter this one is official and mine isn't) :-D Don't know if i'll do one. I'll just have to see if someone does one first. I don't think it is available in retail, only lego stores, so many people might not get it before i do. It will get here monday, which is only 5 days after its release on wednesday. By the way, as anyone else ordered this set? From the sounds of this post, no one has yet. I know it was just released wednesday, but I know a lot of people who order as soon as something is out. And, if someone has who lives on the east coast, you will probably get it before me. Don't wait to see if I am going to do a photo review before you do one. I am more than happy to let anyone do one. I recieved mine from LEGO on Friday and built it yesteray. I was surprised at the large amount of 1x light bley bricks and inverted slopes. The set has several nice features including the dungeon and blacksmith. While the set could be better, it is one of the best castles on that particular baseplate first used in 6091 King Leo's Castle. The figures and new colored ghost are very nice. Ben Quote
SWMAN Posted July 23, 2006 Posted July 23, 2006 Groovy!! I'll wait for you to do a pic review! (oops, I have mine already, jejeje, no matter this one is official and mine isn't) :-D Don't know if i'll do one. I'll just have to see if someone does one first. I don't think it is available in retail, only lego stores, so many people might not get it before i do. It will get here monday, which is only 5 days after its release on wednesday. By the way, as anyone else ordered this set? From the sounds of this post, no one has yet. I know it was just released wednesday, but I know a lot of people who order as soon as something is out. And, if someone has who lives on the east coast, you will probably get it before me. Don't wait to see if I am going to do a photo review before you do one. I am more than happy to let anyone do one. I recieved mine from LEGO on Friday and built it yesteray. I was surprised at the large amount of 1x light bley bricks and inverted slopes. The set has several nice features including the dungeon and blacksmith. While the set could be better, it is one of the best castles on that particular baseplate first used in 6091 King Leo's Castle. The figures and new colored ghost are very nice. Ben 2 Questions. One, whre do you live. If it is on the east coast, not suprised you got it so soon. They ship from CT. Also, what figures does it have, and how many of each? Quote
Berry Syedow Posted July 23, 2006 Posted July 23, 2006 2 Questions. One, whre do you live. If it is on the east coast, not suprised you got it so soon. They ship from CT. Also, what figures does it have, and how many of each? Ben posted a review on classic-castle.com. Here's the link. It's at the bottom of the page. His profile says he lives in "Saint Louis, MO USA". Quote
SWMAN Posted July 24, 2006 Posted July 24, 2006 2 Questions. One, whre do you live. If it is on the east coast, not suprised you got it so soon. They ship from CT. Also, what figures does it have, and how many of each? Ben posted a review on classic-castle.com. Here's the link. It's at the bottom of the page. His profile says he lives in "Saint Louis, MO USA". That's odd. I live in the same general area, but will get mine on Tuesday. I think that he probably used faster shipping, but i am on a budget, and son't want to spend anoth $10 for it to arrive a few days earlier. Quote
xwingyoda Posted July 24, 2006 Posted July 24, 2006 Hey ellerb, SWMAN or any of you lucky members to already own this set, are you going to do a sweet review for us so we can compare to gusmoore17's great version ? That would be sweet ;-) Many tks in advance !! *yoda* Quote
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