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Its just a wild guess, it might be cheaper :)

Yeah, It seems like it would be around $110US.

$150 USD seems VERY high for a set with 1286 pieces. I was thinking that it would be more on par with the 8653 or 8145 Ferrari sets at $109.99

However, one must add in the high cost of Power functions. I thought it looked about $90, but the PF would probably make it around $110-120US.

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Yeah, It seems like it would be around $110US.

However, one must add in the high cost of Power functions. I thought it looked about $90, but the PF would probably make it around $110-120US.

I wouldn't consider the Battery Box and Small Motor High Cost I mean after all, they retail for $6.99 and $7.49 Respectively. And like I said, that is the Retail Price, so they would be included with the set at a much cheaper cost.

This Supercar needs some modification, I'm imagining it with a true 4 speed transmission, without those useless PF functions :tongue: .

I think a 4 speed transmission is kind of a step back from the 5 speed with reverse transmissions that we have previously had.

If the price is 120 euros in europe, then it's probably 120USD in the US.

And in Norway it't like 90 billions NOK :tongue:

Edited by Pauger

I almost agree with you Plastic Nurak entirely, it really needs transmission but a 5 or 6 speed gearbox with reverse.

Yes, I forgot reverse and the fifth speed :classic: , shame on me :laugh: . Surely, adding this functionality will oblige to do some modification to the chassis, but eventually, in my case, pieces don't lack :thumbup: .

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I think a 4 speed transmission is kind of a step back from the 5 speed with reverse transmissions that we have previously had.

Not necessarily...

Cause with a "classic" gear box you have one axle that goes in and one that goes out.

Whereas with a gear box which enables to switch between several functions, one axle goes in but 4 goes out. So, it is very interesting too.

Not necessarily...

Cause with a "classic" gear box you have one axle that goes in and one that goes out.

Whereas with a gear box which enables to switch between several functions, one axle goes in but 4 goes out. So, it is very interesting too.

No, I think the 4 function control box is very interesting. :thumbup: I was talking about the guys that said that this car should have had an actual 4 speed transmission(like the 8880 had) I think that would be a step back, not the gearbox/control box that is in the 8070. :classic:

No, I think the 4 function control box is very interesting. :thumbup: I was talking about the guys that said that this car should have had an actual 4 speed transmission(like the 8880 had) I think that would be a step back, not the gearbox/control box that is in the 8070. :classic:

Yeah, you're right.

I misunderstood what you wrote.

I also think, that another Supercar don't need 5 speed transmision, so the pistons can move with diferent speeds. That is so boring. On the other hand, 4 (or 5-6) function control box is very interesting. It has probably the same amount of gears if not more, and it is more useful than gearbox. At least from my perspective.

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Has anyone preordered the model yet? I'd like to see a vid of it's functions!

No, I think the 4 function control box is very interesting. :thumbup: I was talking about the guys that said that this car should have had an actual 4 speed transmission(like the 8880 had) I think that would be a step back, not the gearbox/control box that is in the 8070. :classic:

I prefer models which model real life, a 6 speed and reverse box would be nice, or even a seven speed + reverse. Plus this model looks to be stepping back to Space Shuttle type functionality (8480) if you think about it, so is it a step forward?

I also think, that another Supercar don't need 5 speed transmision, so the pistons can move with diferent speeds. That is so boring. On the other hand, 4 (or 5-6) function control box is very interesting. It has probably the same amount of gears if not more, and it is more useful than gearbox. At least from my perspective.

Interesting yes but it's far from modelling a real car :wink:.

Anyway who ever wants a 4 speed gearbox has all the parts in the supercar and can modify it.

I just wish lego technic sets would push the boundaries of what has been done before, whilst modelling real life as closely as possible. There is a lot of improvements Lego could do in modelling a real life supercar. Plus I want lego sets to inspire me :tongue: like the 8880 did. I do not want the 8880 again, I want something that improves on it a lot :thumbup:, and although I will probably buy this model I have the terrible feeling it will dissapoint me.

There is so much that could be done in the supercar and car line whilst modelling real life. Anti roll bars, power functions adjustable suspension, 4 wheel drive + steering, limited slip differentials (can be done, but seeing it an official set would be awesome!), proper shock absorbers (I have thought of using a pneumatic cylinder with the two ports connected and something compressing the hose), larger bigger and better gearboxes (powerable!), leaf spring parts (for modelling older cars), macpherson strut (can be done out of normal parts) but seeing it on official lego sets would be nice!, brakes using pneumatic 'cylinders' (I think drum brakes would be easily doable but they are not exactly sports car material :laugh: ) with special lego felt lined brake pads and shoes, clutches (again probably felt lined friction plate) and pneumatic or flex actuated.

There is so much that could be modelled in the car world :classic:

On a side note I am designing a car with front torsion bar suspension, a rear live axle, and a 5 speed gearbox plus reverse (the real car I am modelling has a 4 speed + reverse but that would be a waste of gearbox space unless I could make a 1st gear idler type system like real gearboxes use). Still collecting parts for it :laugh:

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i am just waiting for this set to come out, it will give me some extra parts i need for a sportscar moc. but when the unimog comes out, i will use its tyres and pieces from the 8070, to make a 4x4 rally car with lockable differentials, 5 +r.... model wil be big with the tyres from the unimog, so you can build in more functions.. maybe even rc.

i like this set, but when it comes to builing, for me it is just a pieces giver. i don't think it wil disapoint me, in most sets you actually expand your buidling thechnieks by building the main model once. wel all have our building styles, and looking and building someone elses gives you some advantages.

Niels

i am just waiting for this set to come out, it will give me some extra parts i need for a sportscar moc. but when the unimog comes out, i will use its tyres and pieces from the 8070, to make a 4x4 rally car with lockable differentials, 5 +r.... model wil be big with the tyres from the unimog, so you can build in more functions.. maybe even rc.

i like this set, but when it comes to builing, for me it is just a pieces giver. i don't think it wil disapoint me, in most sets you actually expand your buidling thechnieks by building the main model once. wel all have our building styles, and looking and building someone elses gives you some advantages.

Niels

I will also be buying this set mainly for parts too, but BrickLink maybe too tempting :laugh:

Think about autos, the engine and the drive train are essential. The opening to maintain the mechanism or load / unload people and luggage also mandatory but not essential. Especially for this type of monster cars. This means it is difficult to create ideal car model which is not similar to 8880.

8070 represents TLG's challenging stance that avoids falling into a rut, IMO. I will try to have this exterior conscious solution.

I have never owned a Lego super car before, but I really look forward to this one :sweet: . Based on what I see, this set will not have transmission because the box art suggests that the control lever operates the opening hood, doors, and spoiler using Power Functions, which I think will be interesting. However, the engine, suspension, detail, and aesthetics all look spectacular, and I really hope this car is an all wheel drive. Even if it does not live up to expectations, that'll be alright because this is just a Lego set, and nothing is perfect.

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Are there any pictures that show the bottom view (with the details of the mechanical design) or are we going to have to wait until the instructions are posted on Lego.com to see more detail about the functions?

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I have never owned a Lego super car before, but I really look forward to this one :sweet: . Based on what I see, this set will not have transmission because the box art suggests that the control lever operates the opening hood, doors, and spoiler using Power Functions, which I think will be interesting. However, the engine, suspension, detail, and aesthetics all look spectacular, and I really hope this car is an all wheel drive. Even if it does not live up to expectations, that'll be alright because this is just a Lego set, and nothing is perfect.

I think it's going to be rear wheel drive, just like on most cars.

I have never owned a Lego super car before, but I really look forward to this one :sweet: . Based on what I see, this set will not have transmission because the box art suggests that the control lever operates the opening hood, doors, and spoiler using Power Functions, which I think will be interesting. However, the engine, suspension, detail, and aesthetics all look spectacular, and I really hope this car is an all wheel drive. Even if it does not live up to expectations, that'll be alright because this is just a Lego set, and nothing is perfect.

To be clear, it DOES have a transmission. However, that transmission is not used to change the gear ratio between the drive wheels and the engine, rather it is used to route the power of the electric motor to different functions. There is no fundamental difference between these two uses of a transmission. From a LEGO perspective, I'm sure they chose the latter simply because it offers more play value to the set's target demographic, 10-16 year old boys. While I personally appreciate the older supercars with gear changing transmissions because of their accuracy with respect to the operation of a real automobile, the actual play value of that feature was rather low since all it did was make the engine move at different speeds. I thought the place it was best implemented was in the 8448 Super Street Sensation if the optional electric motor was added. In this case, a pair of yellow liftarms were used to raise the rear wheels off the ground. You could watch the engine turn at a constant speed while shifting through the gears and watching the rear wheels speed up. Contrast this with 8880 where you simply had to push the car along the ground and shifting gears just caused the engine to turn at different speeds. There is already a limited number of kids who can afford (or whose parents can afford) a model of this size, so the more they can do to make its play value attractive to these kids, the more of them they will sell.

My two cents.

To be clear, it DOES have a transmission. However, that transmission is not used to change the gear ratio between the drive wheels and the engine, rather it is used to route the power of the electric motor to different functions. There is no fundamental difference between these two uses of a transmission. From a LEGO perspective, I'm sure they chose the latter simply because it offers more play value to the set's target demographic, 10-16 year old boys. While I personally appreciate the older supercars with gear changing transmissions because of their accuracy with respect to the operation of a real automobile, the actual play value of that feature was rather low since all it did was make the engine move at different speeds. I thought the place it was best implemented was in the 8448 Super Street Sensation if the optional electric motor was added. In this case, a pair of yellow liftarms were used to raise the rear wheels off the ground. You could watch the engine turn at a constant speed while shifting through the gears and watching the rear wheels speed up. Contrast this with 8880 where you simply had to push the car along the ground and shifting gears just caused the engine to turn at different speeds. There is already a limited number of kids who can afford (or whose parents can afford) a model of this size, so the more they can do to make its play value attractive to these kids, the more of them they will sell.

My two cents.

Very good synopsis. :thumbup:

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