Quarryman Posted January 13, 2011 Posted January 13, 2011 But you have blue arms, yellow hand and are suspcious. We are talking about the hand in the picture, you block of wood. The hand holding the machete that killed Martin... I wouldn't say that looks like a blue arm, dark blue if anything.
Hinckley Posted January 13, 2011 Posted January 13, 2011 I wouldn't say that looks like a blue arm, dark blue if anything. Perhaps the shadow of the doorway is causing it to look darker, just like my torso looked dark tan in the other picture. What do our pajamas look like, I wonder...
Quarryman Posted January 13, 2011 Posted January 13, 2011 Now, if I'm lynched, please go after Jesus when you see I'm just an innocent Insane, not Sinister at all. But at least I can't do anything at night, so the Insanes won't lose a valuable asset by lynching me, which I guess is something.
Walter Kovacs Posted January 13, 2011 Posted January 13, 2011 ...you block of wood. Fortunately, with your powers you can turn him into a Real Boy! The stress must be getting to me. I've become downright cheeky.
Zepher Posted January 13, 2011 Posted January 13, 2011 Professor Diem suggested this and I think it's time to make it public. Yesterday we attempted to get a block of people to proxy their votes to Dragonator to see who would respond to one person having a great deal of power. It didn't really take off but I think the Professor's idea has merit. 1. We trust Salvatore. Martin was our investigator and investigated Salvatore and found him Insane. We know Martin got accurate results because his result for Shadows was correct. 2. It is highly unlikely that Salvatore has been converted since his investigation. On each night since Martin found him to be Insane the Sinister have killed someone. It is highly unlikely that the Sinister have time to kill someone and convert in just one evening. 3. If we are all in agreement to vote for Havel/sok then why not proxy our votes to one person to place that vote? 4. If we want to show unity and try to weed out the Sinister we can all proxy our votes to one who we trust and see who doesn't join us. We have the power in our proxy to see how the Sinister will respond. Is this tactic something we should have or could have planned behind the scenes? I don't know. Are there flaws in the plan? Maybe. But, we can't just sit around all day and just guess. Let's try something. We have plenty of time to unproxy if we find it's not working. And this is why I proxied to Salvatore yesterday. So proxy: Salvatore/Dragonator You do realize that is the stupidest plan ever. How in the world would people NOT proxy Salvatore after you've announced it like that? And that stuff about unity makes no sense. How will "showing unity" help to weed out sinisters. I suppose it is useful in allowing for the sinisters to HAVE to vote with us, but really, that makes no sense. Assuming it is an innocent and we all proxy our votes to Salvatore, there will be no way to follow a pattern of voting. Honestly... where is the logic? I'm a little worried how quickly people jumped on that. Try to think for yourselves. What if Jesus and Salvatore are sinisters, and somehow have collected your votes, and place it on someone who is innocent today? Isn't it a safer bet to just be who you are, and vote for who you want dead. As my friend Gaga has said many times: Can't read their po-po-poker face. Vote: Havel/Sok The evidence seems solid, and I personally think that I should vote for him. So I am.
Lord Arjay Posted January 13, 2011 Posted January 13, 2011 Oh wow, things are really starting to heat up now. 3 insanes deaths is too many. I really thought we actually have something with the King but I guess we were off. But I will always remember him as a matyr to our cause. And I will be forever thankful of that. Now to Jesus strategy, I feel this is really the only thing we can do at this stage. Our photographer was unable to get a good shot, does that photo confirm Perry's innocence, or would that be too presumptuous or us? Its also unclear if Petey's investigating techniques are as true as they could be. But it seems he has worked it out and lets just hope they are backwards, not randomized results. So without a further or do Proxy: Salvatore Ricardo Samuels / Dragonator I'd like to point out that this is totally devoid of any actual opinions or thoughts and includes vague statements directed at nobody in particular. This seems to be a reccuring theme in whatever Cookie says.
Hinckley Posted January 13, 2011 Posted January 13, 2011 I suppose it is useful in allowing for the sinisters to HAVE to vote with us, but really, that makes no sense. Like I said, we're trying something. If we keep the sinisters vote and we start finding them and their numbers dwindle, they will have to fight back on this. I know it's not a perfect plan, it's certainly not completely thought out, but it's something to work on for now. What if Jesus and Salvatore are sinisters, and somehow have collected your votes, and place it on someone who is innocent today? That's certainly a possibility, but you can always unproxy and vote for whoever you want. You know how easy it is. You proxied your vote to me, and then removed it to vote against our investigator, remember?
Scouty Posted January 13, 2011 Posted January 13, 2011 Perhaps the shadow of the doorway is causing it to look darker, just like my torso looked dark tan in the other picture. What do our pajamas look like, I wonder... Well, my hands are white as a ghost , so it makes me think that the lighting (particularly creating a silhouette) is playing a big, confusing factor here. It'd have to be a blue or black arm. That'd be me (the only one with dark blue arm, but I've got white hands), the Space Twins, Petey (Who's our investigator), and Professor Diem, who has been wearing a black suit these days (changed from his mugshot? ) I'm also thinking of other colours (like red or green), that can look dark in these lighting conditions, but the arm in the picture doesn't quite hint at that.
Hinckley Posted January 13, 2011 Posted January 13, 2011 and Professor Diem, who has been wearing a black suit these days (changed from his mugshot? ) Whoa whoa whoa. That's very significant.
sok117 Posted January 13, 2011 Posted January 13, 2011 wow, you sleep in a bit and suddenly all hell brakes loose, I knew we shouldn't have voted for the king, but you guys sure were hell bent to get a conviction yesterday, so I say shame to you guys, an innocent man dead, all for nothing. Now lets take a look at whats been discussed today... I beg you all to unvote Mr. Nowhere. Why? Simply because he's recived his information from me. Yes, I am the night investigator have the ability to steal patient's files. My results were meant to show up as either sinister insane or not sinister insane. Just to clarified that. Yes, I investigated the Chief on night one and got sinister, then I investigated the King on night two and got sinister as well. I realize both my results were wrong, as I was insane (this replies to my night action as investigator, not to my allegiance, which would be insane). I contacted both Mr. Nowhere and Dudley Eisenhower, just as insurance. Mr. Nowhere gave my information to Jesus. You may wonder, how I know I'm insane and not just paranoid? Simply just because I got a "not sinister " result yesternight, which makes only sence if I'm insane. Why should you trust me? You have every reason not to do, I can't say I would, so it's up to you. Please do it. If you decide to convict me today, and when I turn out to be insane, be sure to vote: Havel Pavlov/Sok. He was the one I investigated tonight and I got "not sinister", and as Martin is dead, I might be your last investigator (besides the photographer). I know that it looks bad for me, but please give me one more chance. You now have to choose: Me or Havel Pavlov/Sok why would a night investigator, crazy or not just come out and openly admit it? I mean really? there is no logic to that even if it means saving Nowheres skin. But considering your action is pretty useless as you will find out tomorrow if I am voted out, then I wouldn't worry to much as you arn't poseing a real threat to the sinisters. You find out that I'm not sinisterand assume I am sinister just because people who you found as sinister personally, I think your findings are so backwards that it wouldn't be wise to trust them at all, you don't know what these people are prescribing you, you may think your being helpful, but you may just be causing more harm. I do not believe you to be sinister, I think your actually trying to help our cause, but something isn't adding up with you. I have to say, your confession makes sense to all this confusion, Petey. A Sinister would not jump in to rescue someone else like you did. Unfortunately you are more than likely to be dead by the next morning because of your role (just hope the protector does his or her job right). An insane investigator whose results are topsy turvy... tricky indeed. But I'll take your word for it, so I vote: Havel Pavlov/sok117. I agree with this (besides you voting for me) I don't think Petey is sinister, but at the same time, I don't think that means we can just assume that he is getting opposite information (why would an asylum have that? so much confusion!). I don't think we can go on the info petey is getting, mainly because I know im insane, which is enough proof for me, but for others, you may just have to take my word for it, cause theres really nothing I can do to absolutely prove my innocence, but hopefully with points I will bring up, you could believe me. Eh, sure, why the hell not? Unvote: Mr. Nowhere / Scouts Vote: Havel Pavlov/sok117 I trust Petey, and Mr. Pavlov is new here... Okay, but before I go to new points I want to adress this, you've got a mans life in your hands and you say "eh, sure, why the hell not" you don't really seem to care do you, we've lost our numbers greatly, and we don't have a single sinister death under our belt, and the only thing you have to justify your own reasoning is "Mr. Pavlov is new here", i've got news for you buddy, and this was pounded into my head by Jesus himself, (character roles were assigned randomly) just cause I'm new doesn't mean nothin'! Vote: Havel Pavlov/ Sok117 It is possible that Petey and Mr Nowhere are sinister together, however I find it unlikely. Havel Pavlov was already suspicious to me (especially since he disapeared near the end of yesterday) so I have little reason to doubt his guilt. Obviously, if someone contradicts this story I'll remove my vote though I don't think that's going to happen. Also Petey, what made you choose to investigate Havel? Yes, I'm left to question this, I shall admit that I didn't "go to bed early" persay, I was still here listening to what was being said. But I had the kings word that he was insane, and I may just be a sucker, but i believed him, I didn't want to stick my neck out for the chopping block if he revealed to be sinister, so I didn't speak up for him, which I now regret dearly, but you must understand that if he was sinister, I'd be sure you'd be voting for me today , which your all already doing anyways, but have stopped (which i am thankful for) After the death of the King, who I still believed to be scum, I had plenty of suspects, including of course most who voted for the Chief, who I believed to be scum as well. I decided to take Havel, because he wasn't very active, never contributed at voting and some others seemed to be suspicious of him, too. And I just had a gut feeling. I know. So you investigated me for not voting for the king or shadows or big cam, all people who turned out to be innocent, (though apparently shadows had malicious intent, so I'll give you that I guess)? I'm suspicious, for not voting for people who I thought to be innocent, If the king or anyone of those people turned out to be sinister, then by all means you can use that as evidence, but they were all innocent (still confused about shadows) so you don't really have a case. And I don't know what your definition is of "not very active" but I was there when there were still things to discuss, when everyone became hell bent on voting for the king, what more was I suppose to say? There wasn't even enough time left, if i had made a convincing argument, for everyone to unvote the king or pick someone else to lynch, and may I say that I was way more active then you, so next time you use these three word bits of evidence for your reasons on investigating me, get your facts straight first please! I'm not sure what you mean, I definitely know I'm stealing files every night. I just learned that I seem to assess the results wrong. If we have files about all the patients and there intents, why don't the staff go and get them, and we can have people who know how to read look at them? Unless the files are wrong, that would make sense as to why we haven't just gone in that filing cabinet and look at the answers are self and save nine innocent lives Well, thats all I have to say for now, I look forward to seeing where Ricardo decides to place his votes. This time, if I have gut feelings I will stick with them, so I won't proxy my vote yet, but I promise to proxy it If the vote is placed on someone I agree could be sinister.
Walter Kovacs Posted January 13, 2011 Posted January 13, 2011 It'd have to be a blue or black arm. That'd be me (the only one with dark blue arm, but I've got white hands), the Space Twins, Petey (Who's our investigator), and Professor Diem, who has been wearing a black suit these days (changed from his mugshot? ) Holy crap, when did that happen? My mugshot shows white arms. Looking back, I've had black arms since Day 1 in the group shots. If you think it's significant, Jesus, then go ahead and pursue it. I assure you I am merely Insane. Heck, you and I have been working together for the past few days. But do what you must, I won't fight it. I still trust Salvatore with my vote.
Hinckley Posted January 13, 2011 Posted January 13, 2011 If you think it's significant, Jesus, then go ahead and pursue it. I assure you I am merely Insane. Heck, you and I have been working together for the past few days. But do what you must, I won't fight it. I do trust you. But that sort of thing is significant... This is all so confusing!
CorneliusMurdock Posted January 13, 2011 Posted January 13, 2011 I do trust you. But that sort of thing is significant... This is all so confusing! Maybe he soiled his other suit (or def decided to change it for aesthetic reasons). Thankfully mine are self cleaning.
iamded Posted January 13, 2011 Posted January 13, 2011 Ah, I sleep in again and have so much to catch up on. Right... So, this proxy idea, it only will work if Salvatore actually comes along and places a vote. I haven't seen him around at all. Then again I think he's on the same sleep schedule as I, so that's alright. Still, if everyone places their vote with him, and he just doesn't show up and vote, well it will have been a wasted day, no? But there's still plenty of time, and I've been talking to him in private so I relatively trust him. Therefore; Proxy: Salvatore Ricardo Samuels / Dragonator This whole insane investigator thing has me second guessing too. We're almost all of us dead set on voting out Havel Pavlov (sok117) because of the opposite investigation theory, even though a lot of us agree that it might not be right, and the results might instead be random. Just think, if our Investigator was Sinister, he'd have gotten us to vote out 2 Innocents, will be getting us to vote out a third, and tomorrow could fall back on "Oh, so it was random and not opposite after all. How was I to know? I'm still Innocent!". And we'd believe him. I apologise for all these accusations, it's just hard to trust someone so fully. We've lost too many Innocents, it's time we found a damned Sinister!
Peanuts Posted January 13, 2011 Posted January 13, 2011 why would a night investigator, crazy or not just come out and openly admit it? I mean really? there is no logic to that even if it means saving Nowheres skin. But considering your action is pretty useless as you will find out tomorrow if I am voted out, then I wouldn't worry to much as you arn't poseing a real threat to the sinisters. You find out that I'm not sinisterand assume I am sinister just because people who you found as sinister personally, I think your findings are so backwards that it wouldn't be wise to trust them at all, you don't know what these people are prescribing you, you may think your being helpful, but you may just be causing more harm. I do not believe you to be sinister, I think your actually trying to help our cause, but something isn't adding up with you. I admitted it, because I was responsible of the death of the King of Delaware. If I wouldn't have told my role by myself, Mr. Nowhere would have told me for ovious reasons. Also I had evidence against you, which provides me a reason to survive. If I was paranoid, I would be worthless for us insanes. I am pretty sure I'm insane (about my night action), because I can't be paranoid, naive or sane, and random results would just be unlikely. And while I'm insane, I got "not sinister" on you, which means you're sinister. So you investigated me for not voting for the king or shadows or big cam, all people who turned out to be innocent, (though apparently shadows had malicious intent, so I'll give you that I guess)? I'm suspicious, for not voting for people who I thought to be innocent, If the king or anyone of those people turned out to be sinister, then by all means you can use that as evidence, but they were all innocent (still confused about shadows) so you don't really have a case. And I don't know what your definition is of "not very active" but I was there when there were still things to discuss, when everyone became hell bent on voting for the king, what more was I suppose to say? There wasn't even enough time left, if i had made a convincing argument, for everyone to unvote the king or pick someone else to lynch, and may I say that I was way more active then you, so next time you use these three word bits of evidence for your reasons on investigating me, get your facts straight first please! Re-reading through the past days, I admit that you wasn't inactive and that there were others who wrote talked much less. And it's not that you didn't vote for insanes, it's because you completely abstained from voting. But I admit, it seems it was merely luck that I investigated you without any real reason. If we have files about all the patients and there intents, why don't the staff go and get them, and we can have people who know how to read look at them? Unless the files are wrong, that would make sense as to why we haven't just gone in that filing cabinet and look at the answers are self and save nine innocent lives Well, thats all I have to say for now, I look forward to seeing where Ricardo decides to place his votes. This time, if I have gut feelings I will stick with them, so I won't proxy my vote yet, but I promise to proxy it If the vote is placed on someone I agree could be sinister. We have files about the staff as well. And it's not the files, it's what you can read out of them. And I am just an investigator, that's all I know maybe Dr. Burnziegel is too lazy to get himself out of his office and do some work. Just think, if our Investigator was Sinister, he'd have gotten us to vote out 2 Innocents, will be getting us to vote out a third, and tomorrow could fall back on "Oh, so it was random and not opposite after all. How was I to know? I'm still Innocent!". And we'd believe him. If Havel turns out to be insane, I will even place a vote for myself, without any defense. Okay?
def Posted January 14, 2011 Author Posted January 14, 2011 Holy crap, when did that happen? My mugshot shows white arms. Looking back, I've had black arms since Day 1 in the group shots. Mod note: Professor Diem's mug shot was one of the first I took, and though his suit changed, I never got around to retaking it. For all intents and purposes, his suit is black, and has been consistently so since day one. Nothing is meant by the 'change'.
Scouty Posted January 14, 2011 Posted January 14, 2011 And I am just an investigator, that's all I know maybe Dr. Burnziegel is too lazy to get himself out of his office and do some work. Uh, oh . Shhhhhhhhhhh, Dr. Blutziegel has very good hearing. I do trust you. But that sort of thing is significant... This is all so confusing! I blame the guy upstairs again. SInce it was from the start, it seems like he was given a new pair of clothes from day 1. Now, if he got new clothes in the middle of nowhere A big dead walrus being dragged through the halls can't be good for many of our pants .
def Posted January 14, 2011 Author Posted January 14, 2011 Vote Lynch Tally Havel Pavlov/Sok117 2 (ADHO15, Zepher) Proxy Vote Tally Salvatore/Dragonator 16 (Hinckley, Walter Kovacs, CorneliusMurdock, Admiral Ron, Lord Arjay, Rick, Bob, Rufus, Ricecracker, Sandy, Scouts, Quarryman, Peanuts, Yumiyoshi, Roncanator, iamded)
RileyC Posted January 14, 2011 Posted January 14, 2011 I apologise for all these accusations, it's just hard to trust someone so fully. We've lost too many Innocents, it's time we found a damned Sinister! I agree. I do find it suspicious that the people "running the show" here have only managed one conviction that was kind of beneficial to us. I know sinisters are slimey beasts but with two investigators and a photographer working for us I thought we wouldve hit one by now. Here's to hoping tonights a good night!
WhiteFang Posted January 14, 2011 Posted January 14, 2011 Only yesterday, we have 3 fellow companions with us, and with the misleading information on the The King of Delaware being convicted... We got ourselves with grave situation, having to see Chief, being murdered.. And, Cat Manuel triggering his self-defence mechanism but the odds probably didn't get into the person who approach him, or it could or might be self-activated. However, it is all to our disadvantage to see our patient numbers dwindle... My only concern, could be Petey (if truly an insane) like most of us, then he might be a parnoid investigator or a new introductory role like a pickpocket, sometimes, to prove yourself whether you are insane or not, it is to check up on yourself in Day 1, as I could to determine if your findings is indeed true, even though you might want to steal your own files to read. The thing is, you are basing on the patient files which you have come across where "sinister" is being indicated somewhere. I just find it hard to believe, in that approach that someone in the staff is recording those information and how could one believe whether this information is true? He or she can choose to record whatever we like about us. I will like to believe and hope there is another surviving investigator out there. Right now, I don't know who I should vote but meanwhile, to show my trust and support like the rest, I will proxy Salvatore/Dragonator until I am certain who I should vote.
sok117 Posted January 14, 2011 Posted January 14, 2011 I admitted it, because I was responsible of the death of the King of Delaware. If I wouldn't have told my role by myself, Mr. Nowhere would have told me for ovious reasons. Also I had evidence against you, which provides me a reason to survive. If I was paranoid, I would be worthless for us insanes. I am pretty sure I'm insane (about my night action), because I can't be paranoid, naive or sane, and random results would just be unlikely. And while I'm insane, I got "not sinister" on you, which means you're sinister. I know for a fact you are worthless to us insanes, and theres no nicer way to put it then that, But I am truely insane, if there is an investigator somwhere out there, investigate me tonight with a system that you know works and inform petey that I'm insane. Were dealing with my life here, and I for one would like to see it in the best hands, cause I would really like to be able to live through this ordeal! If you pay attention to these lines i screamed out when I repeated you, how can you know for sure you arn't paranoid, naive, or sane!? You did condemn an innocent man to his death after all. And I don't think anything in this nut house is unlikely anymore, grenades, machetes, switchers, magic poisons and pills! This place is a nuthouse and looking for things that are likely and waht were used to have gone out the window. So I am not sure that we, nor you, sould trust your findings. Re-reading through the past days, I admit that you wasn't inactive and that there were others who wrote talked much less. And it's not that you didn't vote for insanes, it's because you completely abstained from voting. But I admit, it seems it was merely luck that I investigated you without any real reason. Thanks for looking back on the day and realize that your accusations are false, yeah, and sorry for not voting for insanes, thats my bad, I don't get what the point of voting for someone when theres no chance of convicting, I wouldn't want to be part of an innocents death and I'm glad that I can hold that to my name, I'm damn proud of it! If Havel turns out to be insane, I will even place a vote for myself, without any defense. Okay? You are either really sure about this or really dumb, your betting your life on an ability your not even sure about! better start writing your will up now, and if I do get convicted, you better not put up a fight tomorrow okay, im holding you to that. I agree. I do find it suspicious that the people "running the show" here have only managed one conviction that was kind of beneficial to us. I know sinisters are slimey beasts but with two investigators and a photographer working for us I thought we wouldve hit one by now. Here's to hoping tonights a good night! first of all, martains dead, and our other investigator isn't accurate... at all. So I can see why we haven't managed to turn anything up in this backwards world. And don't go to bed yet, theres still a lot more in the day, so were not gonna "hope for a good night" were gonna sit here until we can get a good accusation. I'm open to ideas, and I'm ready to hear what ricardo is going to do about all these votes.
Zepher Posted January 14, 2011 Posted January 14, 2011 But why bother to proxy at all. Jesus keeps saying we can unproxy if we don't like the decision he makes, so what's the point of proxying the vote in the first place? Salvatore hasn't even said anything today.
iamded Posted January 14, 2011 Posted January 14, 2011 Hmm. Drag- err, Salvatore still hasn't shown up. Perhaps, I shall just place my vote, and when I shows up I can put my vote back in his hands. Unproxy: Salvatore Ricardo Samuels (Dragonator) Vote: Havel Pavlov (Sok117) Havel, if you turn out to be sane, I'll have to seriously rethink things. Our Investigator Petey Pirowski (Peanuts) will most likely claim paranoia or whatever, and we'll be at a loss for new information. It'll be back to the blue arms photograph, and choosing between one of the twins (blue arms), the Professor (black arms), or our pyromaniac pal Petey (black arms). Dios, this is confusing. It so very much looks blue in the photo, but I suppose it could be the light reflecting off Martin's face or something, making the black look dark blue. Or it could be blue arms, but in the shadow, so they appear dark blue. Or perhaps Mr Nowhere sometimes has yellow hands to confuse us all. Ai, I don't know. Here's that picture again, to refresh your memories.
Dragonator Posted January 14, 2011 Posted January 14, 2011 Sorry everyone, I must have had a stronger dose of meds last night than usual and ended up sleeping in a bit. Last night's results were certainly not what we were expecting. Quite simply, they were a disaster. Three dead, all insane, including our PR. This hasn't given me the greatest confidence in Petey's file-reading talents, but after listening to the analysis of his results from earlier today, I tend to agree that the only clear explanation is that he is insane through and through, which therefore makes Havel one of the sinister. It does sort of make sense, considering where we are. However, I really hate to assume. What if we are wrong again? Other than the photographs provided by Dr. Rajim, we don't really have any other leads. I am hesitant, as we can't afford to make many more mistakes, but unless we can come up with a better plan, I feel Havel is probably the best person for us to vote for at this time. I thank you all for your confidence in me with your proxy votes, although now I am feeling a lot of pressure to make a decision for you all. I am insane, yes, and Martin confirmed this, however that does not mean my judgment is going to be any better or any more well-informed than the rest of you. We are all working off the same information. Most of you who have proxied me have indicated that you would be voting for Havel, and as I also feel that is the best way for us to go today, I will, for the moment, place my vote accordingly. Let us see what comes of this action. Vote: Havel Pavlov (Sok117) Also, I would like to thank you all for your concern about my safety. It is true, I have a big target on my back now, but having been confirmed as insane, I have also been approached by someone who has offered to help make sure I stay alive during the night, in case the sinister's get any ideas. Jesus has also been a tremendous help in both keeping me alive and trying to help us sift out the sinisters. We may not have been successful yet, but I feel his actions so far speak for themselves. If any of you have any misgivings, I should say now that I trust Jesus, and think we are on the right track to saving ourselves from the scummy sinisters. Hopefully, our choice today will not result in such a disaster as we experienced last night. If anyone else has any other evidence or observations that might help with our choice today, this is your time to speak up.
iamded Posted January 14, 2011 Posted January 14, 2011 Here's the man of the hour now! Hola señor! Unvote: Havel Pavlov (Sok117) Proxy: Salvatore Ricardo Samuels (Dragonator)
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