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One other possibility is that Mr. Havel is so convincing because he's being coached by an expert. There was plenty of time between his posts and the first post and the original accusations for him to have coached by a devious and experienced scumbag. :cry_sad:

Ugh, this is insane...

I'm impressed you think I'm very convincing, the secret, telling the truth :classic: , I've got nothing to hide from you guys, but I don't feel comfortable voting someone out just because they aren't helpful, by all means I don't want to die today, but if it mens saving an insane, though inexperienced or inactive in our discussions, then it shall be my time, and I'm sure it will help you in some way or another to weed out any sinisters in the future I guess.

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If we're going to vote somebody else, and go for one of the inactive, who would it be?

I would not vote for Dudley. He has been very inactive, however he seems to be acting the same way as Cat. He's not very useful but I don't think he's sinister. Mrs Monroe has had wierd views and has given her opinions. Strange opinions but opinions none the less.

I suspect all of the remaining four, though I would vote Ted at this point. Dr Ballbricker, Cookie and my brother have more or less been equally unhelpful throughout this process. That said, I agree that we will probably need to vote out Havel if we are to figure things out.

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Accidently said would. I meant wouldn't. Haven't you heard of a typo? It happens a lot in your favorite newspaper. :hmpf:

Your grammar is what I was correcting. It's not would of, it's would have. Same with wouldn't. It's not wouldn't of, it's wouldn't have...

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I am insane. I am in no way sinister. And later on you'll need me.

cool story bro! Well we know we can't vote for this guy, he says hes not sinister, so I guess it has to be true.

If I was sinister, I would of helped Havel Palvov. :hmpf:

Wow, not even a little bit of doubt, you no for certain I am sinister? Have you been listening at all today? You may be insane, but your not helping our cause at all.

I retract my earlier comment, I'll stick my neck out for anyone else without any evidence against them besides inactivity, unless we all decide to vote for this guy, then go for it!

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Your grammar is what I was correcting. It's not would of, it's would have. Same with wouldn't. It's not wouldn't of, it's wouldn't have...

Another mistake. It must be all the Foreign people that messed me up during the world.

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We've suspected them all before and they all fly pretty well under the radar.

No, you've suspected me before. I'm the one who didn't vote for the King, while you were trying to persuade others to. The only reason you came up with as me being suspicious was because I didn't want to vote for the King...

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And later on you'll need me.

Do us all a favor. Find someone you think you can trust and explain to them why we'll need you. Choose your confidant wisely, though. You can't be too careful.

As for the grammatical errors, I blame the school system. Say what you will about my life in the circus but I received a pretty decent private education. How else could I have gotten to the moon when so many government scientists have failed?

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I'm not exactly "flyin under the radar". Due to my irregular sleeping habits I wake up late in the day. This means we have already gone through the new information has already been discussed and the questions I have had been answered. Then the convicting starts and usually I have no reason to object them. Then we have this time where nothing is going to change and there's useless banter which I dont feel I need to contribute in because cookie is above taunts and jeering. I have not made any mistakes so far which is not something I can say about you mister Jesus.

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No, you've suspected me before. I'm the one who didn't vote for the King, while you were trying to persuade others to. The only reason you came up with as me being suspicious was because I didn't want to vote for the King...

No, if that was my reason, I would've said so.

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Unvote: Havel Palvov/Sok

If he was sinister, that would be the most ridiculous defense. He would never bother to do all that. He'd just throw around suspicion. I'm starting to get seriously worried about our numbers at this point. We have no found any sinister insane, and a few people seem to be running the show. What if they're ALL in cahoots! I'm starting to personally have some serious misgivings about Jesus, but I'm really afraid that I'm just being paranoid because he's running the place right now. He's a good actor, being Jesus and all, but he could also just be making a power house effort to catch the sinister.

But... bear with me here.

What if Martin was insane, and got back negative results. He would have had no time to figure it out. He got back sinister for Shadows, and none sinister for Salvatore.

So...

What if he told Jesus this. And Jesus and Salvatore were in this together, got him killed, and then used that one piece of knowledge to get us to all trust them. Salvatore even tried to get the protection aimed at him tonight, instead of on Petey.

I know it's far-fetched, I'll admit that. But there's just something to powerful about the two of them. And since I trust Jesus, and he has a useful night action, I would advise everyone to vote Salvatore. If he dies and is a regular insane, we'll have lost him but kept Jesus alive, and prove he's almost certainly to be trusted.

Please just read it and think of it, and try to follow me. Maybe he'll proxy all your votes to me, since he can do that...

Vote: Salvatore/Draggy

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He got back sinister for Shadows, and none sinister for Salvatore.

He got "not insane" for Shadows.

Don't freak out, dude... It's not going to help anything.

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But... bear with me here.

What if Martin was insane, and got back negative results. He would have had no time to figure it out. He got back sinister for Shadows, and none sinister for Salvatore.

So...

What if he told Jesus this. And Jesus and Salvatore were in this together, got him killed, and then used that one piece of knowledge to get us to all trust them. Salvatore even tried to get the protection aimed at him tonight, instead of on Petey.

I know it's far-fetched, I'll admit that. But there's just something to powerful about the two of them. And since I trust Jesus, and he has a useful night action, I would advise everyone to vote Salvatore. If he dies and is a regular insane, we'll have lost him but kept Jesus alive, and prove he's almost certainly to be trusted.

Please just read it and think of it, and try to follow me. Maybe he'll proxy all your votes to me, since he can do that...

Vote: Salvatore/Draggy

Well I'm all up for not getting myself killed! I'm not sure of your reasoning, but it could very well be plausible, but you say you trust Jesus when he is in cahoots with Salvatore? Something you said doesn't add up, and I have seen Salvatore listeing in on our recent discussion, but he hasn't spoken up or bothered to state anything as to my defence, not a "I think your telling the truth" or a "your definitely lieing and are sinister" and that really worries me, the fact that he was here, but didn't even say a word when he still holds my fate in his hands. It may be my only hope, that If you think I'm innocent, maybe you should unproxy your votes, cause Salvatore may not be bothered to give another opinion now that hes cast his vote.

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It may be my only hope, that If you think I'm innocent, maybe you should unproxy your votes, cause Salvatore may not be bothered to give another opinion now that hes cast his vote.

It's been part of the plan all along that people can uproxy at any time. I'm keeping mine for now so we can test Petey's claims. I think that's the only way to make progress. Who would we vote for otherwise at this point?

I'm keeping my vote with Havel for now, but encourage anyone who feels differently to vote their conscience.

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Personally, I am still happy with my vote. We need to vote someone out today, and unless anyone has a better suggestion, I still feel Havel is the right choice, as do most of the people who proxied to me. If you are not happy with my choice, by all means, remove the proxy, I'm not stopping you. Petey has told us he believes he is an insane investigator, the evidence so far suggests this is true, and as to what Havel has said in his defense, it is certainly heart-moving and tearful, but that doesn't mean it is sincere. They are just words, and I know more than one person who can lie through their teeth right until the end. So, with that in mind, I am still of the opinion that I have used my own vote in the right way, based on the information we have. If you don't like it people, you certainly don't have to support it, there is no way I'm taking responsibility for your votes, proxied or not.

Your concerns Nurse Pendleton are understandable. With nobody really trying to achieve anything, someone had to take the lead if we wanted to make progress, and I think Jesus has made an admirable effort of that thus far, an effort I am happy to support. I have no conclusive evidence that he insane like me other than my gut feeling, Stash's confidence in him and his dedication to helping get rid of the sinisters, but he hasn't had me killed yet, and if he was sinster I suspect he would have by now. I agree Petey should be protected tonight, but I think you will find dear Nurse that there is more than one way to protect someone. :wink: Jesus' night abilities certainly have their uses, and we have at least one protector as well. I don't particularly want to be seen as trying to control the votes, this whole proxy thing wasn't my idea. If you think it will help us find the Sinister then I'm more than happy to oblige you all, if not, then it doesn't matter to me. Personally I'd prefer not to have all these proxy votes behind mine, it gives people the opportunity to weasel out of being responsible for their own votes come tomorrow, which I dislike. I can't see that it's achieving much right now, but it's your call, people.

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Do us all a favor. Find someone you think you can trust and explain to them why we'll need you. Choose your confidant wisely, though. You can't be too careful.

As for the grammatical errors, I blame the school system. Say what you will about my life in the circus but I received a pretty decent private education. How else could I have gotten to the moon when so many government scientists have failed?

I don't blame myself. I was sent to the military by my pa' when I was only 13.

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Personally, I am still happy with my vote. We need to vote someone out today, and unless anyone has a better suggestion, I still feel Havel is the right choice, as do most of the people who proxied to me. If you are not happy with my choice, by all means,remove the proxy, I'm not stopping you. Petey has told us he believes he is an insane investigator, the evidence so far suggests this is true, and as to what Havel has said in his defense, it is certainly heart-moving and tearful, but that doesn't mean it is sincere. They are just words, and I know more than one person who can lie through their teeth right until the end. So, with that in mind, I am still of the opinion that I have used my own vote in the right way, based on the information we have. If you don't like it people, yo certainly don't have to support it, there is no way I'm taking responsibility for your votes, proxied or not.

Well I'm glad to see you speak up Salvadore, but I can't say I'm quite fond of what you've said :laugh: , As I have said before, I shall be okay If I have to die to prove that Petey is useless, but if it can be any other way that would be much preferred. I also agree that there would be no way of knowing my true allegiance until you lobotomize me, and some people would lie to the end, it is definitely worth noting and I was wondering why no one had brought it up as of yet. I'm sure the people will make the right decision, it may be one I dislike, but that may be what we need to benefit from my death, I'd like to go with the respect of all of you, instead of screaming at you for making a mistake, it was a pleasure to have stayed here at the eastward with you guys, though my stay was short, I hope I can remain friends in your heart, and that you shall mourn me in the morning, I guess this is what I deserve for not speaking up for the king, oh well, I shall be with him soon, so long to you all, for I am heading off to bed to reflect on my past, and be thankful for the many years I've had on this earth.

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Would the person who answered the riddle correctly like to share what they learned?

what riddle are you talking about?

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what riddle are you talking about?

People who vote correctly (or... something...) are granted a visit to the garden, where they have the opportunity to solve a riddle and win the prize of asking the mysterious Henry a question.

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People who vote correctly (or... something...) are granted a visit to the garden, where they have the opportunity to solve a riddle and win the prize of asking the mysterious Henry a question.

whoa whoa whoa, I remember hearing something about a boy from the garden, so what do you mean by "voted correctly" like people who voted for sinisters?

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whoa whoa whoa, I remember hearing something about a boy from the garden, so what do you mean by "voted correctly" like people who voted for sinisters?

Well that's what I thought, but so far we haven't, have we? The first time I got a visit was after we got the 2 neutrals. The second time was today, but we didn't get anyone. So I'm not sure, perhaps it's just degree of participation or something? I honestly have no idea.

The garden was nice today though. I saw a polar bear.

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