Hello,

This is my first MOC in 2011, and also my first Lego train MOC. (Thanks to Santa for the train-stuff!)

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This is an 8-wide (=exact 1:45 scale) reproduction of the heavy austrian electric freight locomotive.

It is exact minifig scale, although MUCH BIGGER than the typical skinny standard 6-wide Lego trains.

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View of roof details;

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View of pantograph details;

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This is the part I am least satisfied with. Can somebody link to a better construction?

Some details;

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Notice the snot for the cabin and the red light just under the roof...

The loco is articulated in order to navigate the tight standard Lego track curves;

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Notice how the gap between the articualted parts remains more or less "filled", for mroe aestethic running. This took quite some effort, and articulation in several degrees og the underparts. (i.e. it is NOT just a hingeplate in each end...)

BTW; Here is a short video showing the curve-running;

Video on FLickr

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The driver says "Gruess Gott"...

PS: I´m very sorry about the big pictures. Havent found out how to control the visualization size from Brickshelf to posts in this forum. Tags like "width" and "height" doesnt seem to work¿?

Edited January 20, 201114 yr by TheBrickster
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Great job on this loco Hoexbroe :thumbup:Haven't seen too many 8 wides before. Much more realistic. Love how you designed the pivot points, much better looking then the 10183 Hobby Train. And awesome job on the detail on the pantographs! Keep up the good work and indeed thank you Santa!

Beautiful Job!

I love the roof

Great 8-wide. Do you have any pictures of the construction of those pivots? Curious to see how those work.

That is awesome! Great details - the locomotive in real life is quite simple but you captured the details incredibly well!

I hop it gets frontpaged ASAP so other people can see this marvel.

AWESOME 8 wide engine 'Hoexbroe' .....hmm, might build an Austrailian engine in 8 wide now !

Man, cool pantagraphs.....they really look like they can handle high voltage !

Great designing and Brick On 'Hoexbroe' !

Excellent MOC! It is very realistic and has great details. It is a nice touch that there isn't a gap between the articulated parts when it turns corners.

Extremely well done.

~buddy~

Hello,

This is my first MOC in 2011, and also my first Lego train MOC. (Thanks to Santa for the train-stuff!)

Uhmm, Hoexbroe,

when this is your first LEGO train MOC, I am very, very curious to see your upcoming MOCs! This is wonderful. Has all been said before, I'd just like to point out the detailing on the roof - electricity wise. Fantastic! I literally can "see" current going into this thing and making it alive. Beautiful.

And there is quite some snotting and sloping going on here. You should prepare yourself for showing more details - instructions even? This is really good stuff.

Best regards, and think about it - did you notice the very first "Announcement" forum entry??? Be prepared!

Thorsten

Thanks for the comments, all of you!

Best regards, and think about it - did you notice the very first "Announcement" forum entry??? Be prepared!

Well, I´m sorry to say that I have not seen the message you refer to. Could you give me a link or something? Thank you in advance!

Very well done, especially since it well outdoes the old 9v train set of the same or similar locomotive. My only comment is that from the pictures I can recall, it seems as though it would benefit from some medium BBB wheels as the standard ones seem a bit small.

As far as your question about improving the pantagraph design, well if your replace these two pieces 3651 with 4 of these 44 it will be a lot more stable as it would allow for both sides to connect to the cross bar. However make sure you do not use these 4273 (the original) as they lock together.

Very well done, especially since it well outdoes the old 9v train set of the same or similar locomotive. My only comment is that from the pictures I can recall, it seems as though it would benefit from some medium BBB wheels as the standard ones seem a bit small.

You are absolutly right! The wheels are a tad small.

I would love to have a collection of BBB whells, and I suppose some day I will order some. But this is my first Lego train, and I have discovered several other shortcomings in my vault. ;-)

I live in europe, and I suppose ordering the BBB wheels will be quite expensive.

As far as your question about improving the pantagraph design, well if your replace these two pieces 3651 with 4 of these 44 it will be a lot more stable as it would allow for both sides to connect to the cross bar. However make sure you do not use these 4273 (the original) as they lock together.

Yeah, I did want to do that design, but only own two 44´s. Anyway that would not make de design finer, which is what I want. I found the perfect panto on Flickr, made by Spacepirate; nice panto. -But I dont have any of the pieces he uses...

Well, I´m sorry to say that I have not seen the message you refer to. Could you give me a link or something? Thank you in advance!

Hi Hoexbroe,

there is an announcement from TheBrickster at the very top of the train tech forum saying that EB Fellow Teddy is in charge (well has had the guts to take on this challenge) of organizing a new Train Tech index, including "original" LEGO MOCS, but also some non-LEGO solutions. Your entry would go into the all LEGO instructions - would love to see a PDF or LDraw mpd file with your solution. Will probably take a little time but as I said: Be prepared!

All the best,

Thorsten

there is an announcement from TheBrickster at the very top of the train tech forum saying that EB Fellow Teddy is in charge (well has had the guts to take on this challenge) of organizing a new Train Tech index, including "original" LEGO MOCS, but also some non-LEGO solutions. Your entry would go into the all LEGO instructions - would love to see a PDF or LDraw mpd file with your solution. Will probably take a little time but as I said: Be prepared!

Okay, thank you. Yes, I´ve read that message.

Unfortunatly there are no instructions for the MOC (or any of my MOCs for that sake). I dont use LDRAW (or any other computer-aided design for that matter).

Edited January 18, 201114 yr by Hoexbroe

Very nice Hoexbroe. Looks like you used some pieces from LEGO's Hobby Train in this beauty. Love the colors which remind me a lot of the Swiss Crocodile. I like how you designed the intricate electrical connectors up top (for lack of a better name). I think this deserves a front-page announcement.

In re. to your oversized images, as far as I know, Brickshelf and Maj.com do not have a feature that allows you to resize an image when linking. You need to resize them before posting to Eurobricks.

I'm Austrian and I find that Austrian locomotive amazing! It was still in service when I was a kid. Some of them are still kept intact for special nostalgic train journeys, which are sometimes offered.

Very nice Hoexbroe. Looks like you used some pieces from LEGO's Hobby Train in this beauty. Love the colors which remind me a lot of the Swiss Crocodile. I like how you designed the intricate electrical connectors up top (for lack of a better name). I think this deserves a front-page announcement.

Thanks a lot! -And thanks for the frontpage. :blush:

I am very surprised about that, as this was really just a test-bench. (being my first train et al)

There are no "Hobby Train" parts in teh MOC, but Santa DID drop a couple of Toy Story 3 Trains into the chimney! -So those are the only dedicated train-parts I have (many more already on order, though! ;-)

This test showed me that -although comfortable to build in, 8-wide is rather unpractical for running Lego-trains. Also I got a feeling for what new special parts will be needed in my vault.

So, I will be BACKKKKK!

BTW: The colour-scheme is totally authentic! -NOT SO for the swiss crocodile from the Hobby Tran set, which should be either green or brown.

In re. to your oversized images, as far as I know, Brickshelf and Maj.com do not have a feature that allows you to resize an image when linking. You need to resize them before posting to Eurobricks.

Okay, thanks. Good thing that the forum automatically resizes them. I didnt notice that until after struggling with the size...

That's a great engine you've built. And very well photographed too. I like the detailing on the roof; the colours there just work very well.

You asked for links to other ways of constructing the pantographs. My own solution:

Amsterdam tram by Duq, on Flickr

Here's a few from master train builder James Mathis:

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I quite like the design with the guns and have used it on my post train.

Thanks a lot! -And thanks for the frontpage. :blush:

I am very surprised about that, as this was really just a test-bench. (being my first train et al)

There are no "Hobby Train" parts in teh MOC, but Santa DID drop a couple of Toy Story 3 Trains into the chimney! -So those are the only dedicated train-parts I have (many more already on order, though! ;-)

This test showed me that -although comfortable to build in, 8-wide is rather unpractical for running Lego-trains. Also I got a feeling for what new special parts will be needed in my vault.

So, I will be BACKKKKK!

BTW: The colour-scheme is totally authentic! -NOT SO for the swiss crocodile from the Hobby Tran set, which should be either green or brown.

Okay, thanks. Good thing that the forum automatically resizes them. I didnt notice that until after struggling with the size...

This is really great locomotive!

Don't give up on 8 wide yet, though.

Although, one could even argue yours is 9 wide due to the bits sticking out on the side.

In my experience 7-8 wide is a very nice width as it is close to a 1:45 scale, were Lego wheels are more towards 1:50 and track gauge is more towards 1:40.

So, in my humble opinion 1:45 is a great looking compromise between these dimensions and there is no viewing angle morphed too much compared to another.

Well, that is just my opinion of course.

Kind regards,

Teddy

I quite like the design with the guns ...

Hey Duq,

I quite like your post train design! Beautiful as well.

With respect to the guns as part of the pantographs: Like that as well very much. Particularly when following the bullet pathway ... hey, would-be trouble makers at the station may actually get some flak when these trains come in

Nice!

All the best,

Thorsten

Edited January 18, 201114 yr by Toastie

Good thing that the forum automatically resizes them. I didnt notice that until after struggling with the size...

My pleasure Hoexbroe. It's a very nice engine and I admire your other creations like that paddle wheel - which is amazing.

Even with the resizing of images though, we do ask that members not post images over 800x600 in accordance with our site guidelines. They still require resources to load and to resize. Usually, I will ask first, then remove later (if not performed). If you can resize your images, I'd very much appreciate it.

That's a great engine you've built. And very well photographed too. I like the detailing on the roof; the colours there just work very well.

You asked for links to other ways of constructing the pantographs. My own solution:

Here's a few from master train builder James Mathis:

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I quite like the design with the guns and have used it on my post train.

Thanks, and thank you also for your suggestions! The James Mathis solutions dont work for me; Looks too small; may be well suited for 6-wide trains though. Yours is better; I think the solution must be with minifig hands and hoses. Unfortunatly I have none to spare. Will get!

This is really great locomotive!

Don't give up on 8 wide yet, though.

Although, one could even argue yours is 9 wide due to the bits sticking out on the side.

In my experience 7-8 wide is a very nice width as it is close to a 1:45 scale, were Lego wheels are more towards 1:50 and track gauge is more towards 1:40.

So, in my humble opinion 1:45 is a great looking compromise between these dimensions and there is no viewing angle morphed too much compared to another.

Well, that is just my opinion of course.

Thanks. I certainly share your opinion; I would never do a 6-wide train. I will also go for 1:45, but I think 7-wide will be a better comprimise overall.

With parts sticking out, my MOC is actually 10-wide, but I dont think that is the right way to meassure it...

Edited January 19, 201114 yr by Hoexbroe

Thanks. I certainly share your opinion; I would never do a 6-wide train. I will also go for 1:45, but I think 7-wide will be a better comprimise overall.

With parts sticking out, my MOC is actually 10-wide, but I dont think that is the right way to meassure it...

Hi Hoexbroe,

no it probably is not the best way to measure the width. But, on the other hand, in a layout were the train needs to enter for example a tunnel it will probably require a 12 wide tunnel. So for those cases it is better to define the maximum overall width as the width of the creation. In a layout with only railway station platforms it may be better to define it as 8 or 9 wide, due to the stair cases under the doors.

Kind regards,

Teddy

That's a very cool Crocodile! I love those big 8-wide trains, and a Crococile is pretty huge by itself.

If only Lego would make some decent large radius curves...