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The HOG steering shaft uses these

Which would make perfect sense for when the suspension tilts from left to right...

I fear that Nazgarot is wrong... If you look at the top picture in his post you can see the same assembly as in the bottom picture to hold the near gear reduction part, and it looks like it's under an angle. Also if there were something outside of the gear reduction part that's meant for steering, then why is there a short gear rack used and not a long one, and how is it connected? Also the bottom picture suggests there's an universal joint behind the vertical red pin with bush. And I think the black 11-beam that's connected to that pin, is not fixed to the frame but acts as an extra steering rod.

By the way I'm happy to find so many of those new split axle joiner pieces from 8069; looks like there are six of them in this whole steering assembly.

By the way, what part is at the very distant end of the close-up picture? A bit to the left of the differential, below the gear rack?

Edit: if I have to guess, I think the new wheel hub part will be able to contain 8 : 24 :)

Yes.. The steering pivot point is where the tan Pins are at... You can see the 3L universal joint coming from the differential directly in line with them...

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The turning radius doesn't look like it would be very good. The picture shows a 3/4 pin that acts as a steering stop for the red pin with bushing to rest against.

The front differential looks like it is offset to one side. :thumbup:

It looks central to me. The rendered image is a partial build up which is then cut through. The actual diff seems to sit central on top of the 9 stud liftarm.

What lurks behind the red bushing is what gets me. There is a circle of red behind it and unless a 3L Universal joint connects direct to the 16 tooth cog (which I don't think they'd do) it doesn't add up.

The most amazing thing about this model, is that in spite all of these images, many of the functions hidden within are still technically undisclosed.

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It looks central to me. The rendered image is a partial build up which is then cut through. The actual diff seems to sit central on top of the 9 stud liftarm.

Ah, you're right! I missed that. It is indeed central.

I'm still curious how the steering shaft goes from the body to the axle. :grin:

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Ah, you're right! I missed that. It is indeed central.

I'm still curious how the steering shaft goes from the body to the axle. :grin:

U-joints and/or CV joints.

On the steering/suspension cutaway pic, there is a circular piece hiding in the back.

What is it? Is it new? What is its purpose?

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What lurks behind the red bushing is what gets me. There is a circle of red behind it and unless a 3L Universal joint connects direct to the 16 tooth cog (which I don't think they'd do) it doesn't add up.

I hate to say it, but that looks exactly like what is happening... There is a 3L tan axle with stop going through a hole into and through a 16T gear(The leaves one stud length left) and then into a 3L universal joint... Granted, if this model were motorized, this wouldn't be a good idea, but it isn't, so this should actually work decent enough to get the job done...

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What lurks behind the red bushing is what gets me. There is a circle of red behind it and unless a 3L Universal joint connects direct to the 16 tooth cog (which I don't think they'd do) it doesn't add up.

Will be another symmetrical red bushing at the back side. One can see it through the gap in the 3L u-joint, that's why it looks like a small circle.

This setup was needed to get the housing as small as possible (pivot point).

Doesn't look like Ackermann steering to me, the front wheels seem to be parallel at any time.

Within all the discussion about the turning point, let's not forget, that the wheel itself is attached with three pins. So there must be something like this:

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Yes, one can see the two clips of the central axle left to the lower 16 teeth cogwheel in the cgi, inside the bley portal axle housing.

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Yes, one can see the two clips of the central axle left to the lower 16 teeth cogwheel in the cgi, inside the bley portal axle housing.

I did not know, that it is possible to insert a standard axle into that piece (at least I never tried). I thought it would only be possible to insert this:

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Regards,

Gerhard

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My impression is that the new black "rim connector" (or how it is called) is slightly different to the old one, then. One can see that the slits on the three rim pegs are now circular, not radial anymore. As soon as the axle is inserted in the central peg, you cannot part rim connector and portal axle housing anymore, because the central peg can't compress anymore -> sturdy design. At least, that's my guess. I know the old black rim connector from photos only :blush:

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Yes, I agree -- look at the pictures on that Swedish website http://brixit.se/133.asp and see the closeup below. The pneumatic boom picture is interesting too. Since the side levers are moved out of the way, one can better see how the pneumatics may work:

8110_Unimog_Wheel.jpg

I could see a suitable mounting point for an O-Bahn wheel bracket!

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thanks

please please make pics from the underside

We are planning to also publish pictures of the construction and make a review. Stay tuned: the internet connection is a bit slow!

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On TechnicBRICKS, Conchas posted an extensive article about the evolution of the Lego Unimog 8110 Set. :thumbup: Since he lives in Portugal, he can examine the Unimog being publically displayed.

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We are planning to also publish pictures of the construction and make a review. Stay tuned: the internet connection is a bit slow!

Please take some pictures of the inventory in the back of the building instructions, so the part numbers are clearly visible.

Thanks in advance.

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We are planning to also publish pictures of the construction and make a review. Stay tuned: the internet connection is a bit slow!

Hurry up man! :classic:

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I just spent some time watching every picture, I'll definitely get one as soon as they release it! It looks like it will be of the best lego technic models ever, if not the best.

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so are the half spheres linked to the C-beam? That would be too bad!

and could someone PLEASE post the parts list???

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I must say that I am very disapointed, with these new pics.

IMO, the heavy use of driving ring extension to remedy the not well located gear boxes, the use of U-joint which provides ugly diagonal transmissions, and the necessity to create so many new parts for this model is a clear indication that the chassis is not enough accomplished. :sceptic:

Anyway, thanks a lot for the pics ! :wink:

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Fantastic! Those are some really cool looking hub pieces! Those sphere shaped joints will be really handy to have as well. They remind me of the berfields on the front of solid axle Toyota pickups and SUVs. I am a bit disappointing though...I was hoping for a new, stronger u-joint or slip joint. Oh well.

It appears the air compressor only uses 3L of stroke, which is the same as the old style compressors. If there is a new compressor, I don't think Lego is taking full advantage of the longer stroke.

What's with all the red and yellow bushings? A bit distasteful in my honest opinion.

Anyways, I'm looking forward to buying this! :thumbup:

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