8110 - Unimog U400 General Discussion

[Anio]

I think you mean 1/2 pins.

With 1/2 pins, it works. But the tire can come very close to the chassis (1 mm, maybe less)

So I guess the designer choose the 3/4 pins to get a safer result.

Edited July 3, 2011 by Anio

[efferman]

thanks for your answer

[tripletschiee]

I think you mean 1/2 pins.

With 1/2 pins, it works. But the tire can come very close to the chassis (1 mm, maybe less)

So I guess the designer choose the 3/4 pins to get a safer result.

I tested this also, but the tires still have contact with the frame. It is better than without pins, so I will leave it like that, because the turning radius is much better.

Regards,

Gerhard

[Conchas]

Yes I'm sure the 3/4 pins were put there for safety and to avoid contact with the chassis. Just to increase the safety margin.

In my case and after removing the pins, I found the chassis still full operational and no contact between the wheels and the chassis at all. Of course the margin was minimum (about one milliliter).

And of course I didn't try to force the parts behind their natural limits, otherwise the contact is always possible (even with the 3/4 pins, if you are really motivated to damage something...).

In resume, I still believe the 3/4 pins removal to be an option, if you want to play this way. No damage because of that, if you play gentle, even compressing the suspension.

Nevertheless this was just a test for demonstration purposes. You can perfectly continue playing with the original setup and it is the recommended one!!

[Anio]

I've been in touch with Lego.

The Unimog has indeed a problem.

Of course, they will fix it in the next boxes they will produce. But they did not tell me precisely what was the problem. So, they could have only the panhard rod in mind.

I've no idea if they will offer a service pack for all the model that have already been sent to the retailers, and for the few people who already own a copy.

Edited July 5, 2011 by Anio

[JunkstyleGio]

And what is the problem?

The pump?

Please elaborate!

[Anio]

Maybe you have not seen that I edited my previous message. :)

But they did not tell me precisely what was the problem. So, they could have only the panhard rod in mind.

[Dutch_EE]

also from Aino

According to the Lego employees, a pneumatic part would have some problems.

This would lead to the assumption that the 'un-clutched' compressor would give problems. Like Aino said, and I agree, the pneumatic switch has never given problems.

That said, maybe this one leaks under high pressure. It has never seen a bigger strain than in this model, MOC's excluded.

Edited July 5, 2011 by Dutch_EE

[Parax]

There is no Clutch in the compressor design (and no obvious pressure relief valve in the pump I was not able to examine it too closely), This could be a flaw Lego may look at.. they have always clutched compressors previously. The hose might be slightly different to previous hose, I was not able to compare it side by side, it felt a lot stiffer to attach, so it does not 'blow-off' under high pressure, I guess that Lego may want to add a clutch but I really hope they do not put back the launch date and just issue a service pack.

Clutches are used in the winch and Grabber arm but they are in the devices not in the truck.

The issue with the axle alignment is trivial its a one part fix and it does not affect the model as it is, as the deviation is on the steering axle, so steers out.

P.

Edited July 5, 2011 by Parax

[allanp]

I still wonder if it's the blue ppto piece. It's a great part but it looks a bit weak to me.

[Parax]

I still wonder if it's the blue ppto piece. It's a great part but it looks a bit weak to me.

It is not the nicest piece! If it were my choice I would have designed it with mounting holes above and below the pneumatic tube, and the hoses are tight!

Parax.

[RockeTeK]

In the 2011 catalog, it states the Unimog will be released in October, so it has been delayed for two months?

Well, we'll just have to wait I guess...

[Jetro]

I've been in touch with Lego.

The Unimog has indeed a problem.

Of course, they will fix it in the next boxes they will produce. But they did not tell me precisely what was the problem. So, they could have only the panhard rod in mind.

I've no idea if they will offer a service pack for all the model that have already been sent to the retailers, and for the few people who already own a copy.

I've asked about this on the Ambassador forum to see if I can get a more specific answer there.

[Badger]

I've asked about this on the Ambassador forum to see if I can get a more specific answer there.

Any news yet ?

[Jetro]

The answer is in.... it's the pump.

For more details, head over to TechnicBRICKs

[dhc6twinotter]

I'm happy to see that the release date for the set is still August 1st.

[Musikfreak]

It would still be interesting to hear why TLG made the half stud offset in the front axle. It looks really strange to me and the model does not tilt to one side for me with the correction to the center.

[tripletschiee]

It would still be interesting to hear why TLG made the half stud offset in the front axle. It looks really strange to me and the model does not tilt to one side for me with the correction to the center.

See technicbricks for details.

Regards,

Gerhard

Edited July 9, 2011 by tripletschiee

[Musikfreak]

Thanks for the link. Interesting that they did it for the front and not the back.

[garson]

Thanks for the link. Interesting that they did it for the front and not the back.

they did it for the front because when steering at max compression of the suspension it would rub due to the panhard rod forcing an arc motion of the suspension, with the half stud offset it aligns perfectly at max compression and therefore doesnt rub when steered since the rear axle doesnt steer i guess they didnt need to and chose the regular piece to save abs maybe

[Erik Leppen]

since the rear axle doesnt steer i guess they didnt need to and chose the regular piece to save abs maybe

Lego also preferred the method of the back axle, because that is more logical when suspension is extended. However that had problems with the front axle they had to change it there. However because it doesn't have problems with the back axle, they chose to not change it there because they agree with us that it's better. Saving ABS is probably not the issue - it's just one part. It's just that the back axle is actually better, but the front axle needed an adjustment to they did a concession there.

[davidmull]

How has so many people got this model with the release date not for 3 weeks?it's still not in Europe yet ether!

Also has anyone heard had they fixed the problem with the pump yet?

[tripletschiee]

How has so many people got this model with the release date not for 3 weeks?it's still not in Europe yet ether!

Here in Germany the Unimog was available since about 23. June for a couple of days in the official Lego Flagship Stores. And most of those who have it already ran there immediatly!

At least in Munich the counter-girl couldn't say why it was available about 6 weeks before the official release date.

Regards,

Gerhard

[T_Tank]

Finally got my "torque tube" , portal axle hubs an tires from pick a brick an haven't gotten a chance to try an make some tatra axles with the new portal axle parts. The torque tubes work amazingly in my small monster truck (the lt gray end holds the 3 stud wide dif in very firmly) an the new tires i think will make some really amazing large scale 18 wheelers :D

[Razvy_cluj_ro]

Here in Germany the Unimog was available since about 23. June for a couple of days in the official Lego Flagship Stores. And most of those who have it already ran there immediatly!

At least in Munich the counter-girl couldn't say why it was available about 6 weeks before the official release date.

Regards,

Gerhard

What? The Unimog is avaibile in Germany? Sure? I'm staying in Munich for two weeks... So, are you sure that is still avaibile in Munich?? And What is the price?