dhc6twinotter Posted March 21, 2011 Posted March 21, 2011 (edited) Can someone make a list of all functions 8110 will have in ur own opinion,also do ye think were in for any nice surprises or are we fairly sure about all the functions going by the pictures, -Pneumatic Compressor driven by PF M motor -Pneumatic cylinder for lower section of arm -Pneumatic cylinder for upper section of arm -Small pneumatic cylinder for claw -Motorized crane slew -Motorized winch -4 wheel drive (maybe with portal axles?) -Fake engine -Working suspension -HOG steering -Manual stabilizers -Cab tilt That's all I can figure out. I'm excited! Edited March 21, 2011 by dhc6twinotter Quote
davidmull Posted March 21, 2011 Posted March 21, 2011 There's also an aux pneumatic pipe going to the front of the model too,I can't wait ether , Anyone else anything to add on functions or how they might switch or work? Quote
Montage Posted March 21, 2011 Posted March 21, 2011 No matter what the cost is, I will be purchasing this item. Quote
davidmull Posted March 21, 2011 Posted March 21, 2011 -Pneumatic Compressor driven by PF M motor -Pneumatic cylinder for lower section of arm -Pneumatic cylinder for upper section of arm -Small pneumatic cylinder for claw -Motorized crane slew -Motorized winch -4 wheel drive (maybe with portal axles?) -Fake engine -Working suspension -HOG steering -Manual stabilizers -Cab tilt That's all I can figure out. I'm excited! Will we be able to rotate and operate the crane I wonder at the same time or will u have to switch between functions like 8043? Quote
garson Posted March 21, 2011 Posted March 21, 2011 Will we be able to rotate and operate the crane I wonder at the same time or will u have to switch between functions like 8043? you can operate the pneumatics or rotate the crane not both because the same motor drives the compressor and slews the turntable Quote
davidmull Posted March 21, 2011 Posted March 21, 2011 you can operate the pneumatics or rotate the crane not both because the same motor drives the compressor and slews the turntable That's a bit disappointing but I'm sure it will still be good,I think 1 m motor is very skimpy in a set this big tho! Quote
garson Posted March 21, 2011 Posted March 21, 2011 That's a bit disappointing but I'm sure it will still be good,I think 1 m motor is very skimpy in a set this big tho! well this is supposed to focus on the pneumatics so yeah an m motor is more than enough to run a compressor winch and slewing Quote
garson Posted March 21, 2011 Posted March 21, 2011 (edited) • New transmission block for additional ground clearance how do you think this would be done a totally custom part or using regular parts and will this use the new female cv joint? Edited March 21, 2011 by garson Quote
davidmull Posted March 22, 2011 Posted March 22, 2011 I'd like to hear blackbirds and other technic experts opinions on this model and it's functions :) Quote
Blakbird Posted March 22, 2011 Posted March 22, 2011 I'd like to hear blackbirds and other technic experts opinions on this model and it's functions :) Me like. Quote
Dutch_EE Posted March 22, 2011 Posted March 22, 2011 There is a really easy way to solve the problem of both using the compressor and the power take of. Just replace the clutch gear of the Power Take Off in the gearbox that switches between compressor and PTO by a standard 16 gear. The power take of is then always on, but you can still select between the front, back or neither with the second knob (red). When the turntable is connected to the back PTO (which I think is the case) you can then use both the compressor and the turntable or winch at the same time. The compressor can then be switched on by the yellow handle. Quote
davidmull Posted March 22, 2011 Posted March 22, 2011 There is a really easy way to solve the problem of both using the compressor and the power take of. Just replace the clutch gear of the Power Take Off in the gearbox that switches between compressor and PTO by a standard 16 gear. The power take of is then always on, but you can still select between the front, back or neither with the second knob (red). When the turntable is connected to the back PTO (which I think is the case) you can then use both the compressor and the turntable or winch at the same time. The compressor can then be switched on by the yellow handle. This sounds like a good solution but I'd prefer not to mess around with the original design. Quote
allanp Posted March 22, 2011 Posted March 22, 2011 you can operate the pneumatics or rotate the crane not both because the same motor drives the compressor and slews the turntable It seems to be quite an odd setup. If it doesn't already do this my first mod will be to have the motor drive both driving rings and the engine simultaineously. Then I will use the now spare function of the first driving ring (that I assume will probably drive the second drining ring ) to drive the wheels. And if the compressor is weak i'll make that better too. Quote
imajor Posted March 22, 2011 Posted March 22, 2011 It seems to be quite an odd setup. If it doesn't already do this my first mod will be to have the motor drive both driving rings and the engine simultaineously. I don't think that would work, because each time you turn on the motor to get air pressure, the crane would start rotating around no? Quote
davidmull Posted March 22, 2011 Posted March 22, 2011 I wonder will they have any new pneumatics parts to limit airflow to stop the unwanted speed when activated?also after adding the pf compressor to 8049 I'm very impressed how strong the arm is,I tried lifting a really heavy plug socket for removing spark plugs and it lifted it fine ;) also I like the way the claw has the rubber ends on 8110 because u can grip things a lot better, I'm very curious to know will they use the same compressor set up as 8049 also!some people say the small pneumatic cylinder is very rare and hard to get,how come?maybe it only came in 8868 all those years ago,the small pneumatic pump must be rare too so! Quote
dhc6twinotter Posted March 22, 2011 Posted March 22, 2011 Personally, I would prefer to leave the set as designed with compressor on a switch. In my opinion, being able to turn the compressor on/off as needed is much better than it running all the time. Because there is no air tank or pressure switch, a compressor continually running could blow off hoses, or worse, damage the compressor. Also, as the pressure builds up and puts strain on the motor, the motorized slew and winch may slow down a bit. This is probably why the set designers have a switch on the compressor. Quote
Zhanmei Posted March 23, 2011 Posted March 23, 2011 I just cannot wait to get the 8110 Unimog set. But I already have 8258 Crane Truck. I doubt whether these two sets (8258 vs. 8110) are too similar. As we don't know the details of 8110, I cannot tell. But at least they look a little bit similar. Does anyone have concern about it? Quote
zap2012 Posted March 23, 2011 Posted March 23, 2011 I just cannot wait to get the 8110 Unimog set. But I already have 8258 Crane Truck. I doubt whether these two sets (8258 vs. 8110) are too similar. As we don't know the details of 8110, I cannot tell. But at least they look a little bit similar. Does anyone have concern about it? This is something I've though of, too. It seems like a lot of sets lately have had a wheeled base with a mechanical or pneumatic lifting arm on it. This doesn't bother me too much because I just got back into LEGOs and don't have any of the other vaguely similar sets and because the Unimog looks like it's got a lot of other features and a lot of potential for expansion. Still, I'll be kind of disappointed if next year's assortment features more of the same. Quote
T_Tank Posted March 23, 2011 Posted March 23, 2011 I really want to get this set badly an would likely remove the pneumatics from it or re purpose them to make a multi gear trasmission an make the mog into a working off road vehicle an change the tire treads to the more off road style. likely make a dump bed for the back to if I could figure how to gear it all up Quote
allanp Posted March 23, 2011 Posted March 23, 2011 I don't think that would work, because each time you turn on the motor to get air pressure, the crane would start rotating around no? No. Here's how it will work (at least after I have modded it!). Turn the motor on and the engine spins constantly with the motor to simulate the real life MOG where the engine drives everthing regaurdless of whether or not the vehicle is in motion. The motor will also drive both driving rings. From the first driving ring will be the option to drive the compressor or the wheels, making the vehicle go. From the second driving ring you will have the option to drive either the front or rear PTO. This means you can have only the engine running if you like. Or you can have only the compressor running. Or you could have only one of the PTO's running. Or (most importantly) you could have the compressor and one of the PTO's running simultaineously, meaning all functions of the rear arm can be operated at the same time, including the slewing operation. All this whilst also motorising the wheels. I really don't think it's gonna be a big modification if the drive train to the wheels has any strength in it. Quote
Dutch_EE Posted March 23, 2011 Posted March 23, 2011 All this whilst also motorising the wheels. I really don't think it's gonna be a big modification if the drive train to the wheels has any strength in it. I think that the drive train is strong enough, I'm just not sure that a M motor is strong enough to move the model. Especially with 2 (3) differentials. This could mean that it could only drive at a snails pace. Quote
T_Tank Posted March 23, 2011 Posted March 23, 2011 try to fit a rc motor inside it maybe? it would eat more batteries but possible give it some more speed. Though I'd just love to have a radio controlled mog :D Quote
allanp Posted March 23, 2011 Posted March 23, 2011 (edited) I'de be looking for the same speed as the barcode truck. The Mog will most likely be heavier but the M-motor is a bit more powerful. If that fails I could always upgrade to the XL motor. That will be more than enough. With any luck the new gearboxs will offer additional down gearing as well as more ground clearence to take some of the strain off the gears in the diff, especially with those large wheels. But hey, I don't have the thing yet so I don't know how easy it's gonna be. I just can't wait to get it because it's still freaking great as is! Edited March 23, 2011 by allanp Quote
davidmull Posted March 23, 2011 Posted March 23, 2011 I'de be looking for the same speed as the barcode truck. The Mog will most likely be heavier but the M-motor is a bit more powerful. If that fails I could always upgrade to the XL motor. That will be more than enough. With any luck the new gearboxs will offer additional down gearing as well as more ground clearence to take some of the strain off the gears in the diff, especially with those large wheels. But hey, I don't have the thing yet so I don't know how easy it's gonna be. I just can't wait to get it because it's still freaking great as is! I agree Allan it's going to be great even as is,so I wonder who will be the first to have this set :) Quote
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