Werewolf Mafia: Day 2

[sok117]

I certainly understand your point. But I do not see the threats that Chief Ebenezer Hewitt made against Mr. Nathans. Can you point that out for me please?

The content of your quotes actually is significant as your initial reaction was quite rational. That would be consistent with being influenced by Zed behind the scenes.

However, the difference, in my opinion, is instead of seeing two opposing sides misunderstanding circumstantial evidence, you attacked Mr. Nathans as a werewolf, trying to turn everything he had said against him. Perhaps you are just a poor tactician.

Well I never said he made threats, but in our discussion he said

"What do you think about me voting Dragonator, I just feel that he is working too hard and is not taking into account anything but his side of the argument, that is a werewolf trait."

to which I replied

"I am all for it, but it seems the bandwagon has started against Zed, and with that I suggest we hold off on voting for now and if Zed turns out to be innocent tomorrow thats more evidence we have against him, which will increase our chances of rallying to vote him out, So hold off, and by the slim chance that Zed is werewolf, you will not be suspected for voting for someone else. I have talked to Dragonator and told him that he was most likely a werewolf and that I would be starting the bandwagon tomorrow against him if Zed is innocent, so with that, If I die I need you to start the bandwagon tomorrow okay."

I guess you may be right in thinking I'm a poor tactican, I may have been a bit to upfront with my accusations. And this time they were totally wrong. Take not that when I replied to this, it was before I checked in to the daily discussion, and the Chief had already voted for Dacious before I could get back to him. So my reply may have been the reason for him to switch his vote.

Also previously he stated this to me, which struck me as interesting, and now even more interesting with the pick axe killer.

Note: this was the second time he contacted me and we were just beginning to discuss things, also the person he is refering to is Zed, and what he said just made me agree more with what Zed was saying

"I was at first definatly going to vote him off but now I am not so sure, he just mis~read his role and even I didn't see anything about factions till Harriet pointed it out and I took another look. I am not going to vote for him when the time comes.

However at times like this I do feel it is good to have friends and build alliances, It gives us a chance to disscuss things and put information together to solve a problem. Therefore I too would like an alliance with you, the only thing is though that I would not feel comfortable revealing my role to you yet.

I cannot talk more now because of exahaustion but tommorrow we can discuss the issue further.

Yours

Ebenezer"

to this I replied

"Yeah me too I feel the same way, I could have just as easily asked that question and now have my nose to the grindstone

And as a piece of advice, when someone contacts you, don't tell them that you have a role/ night action, cause you just told me and If I was scum you would be knee deep in trouble . So just watch out next time, don't reveal your role, and don't tell anyone you have a role. It's the safest way to stay alive, I'll talk to you later today."

and that how it happened.

[Hinckley]

and that how it happened.

Besides switching his vote, the Chief seems pretty innocent to me. Especially considering how your conversation went.

[Admiral Ron]

Ugh...good morning everyone.

Good Lord! We lost Officer Dacius! We must avenge his death.

Well, I come out from "praying to the porcelain god" all morning, and we may have found yet another werewolf? You were right yesterday Harriet, I shall follow you once again/

[Hinckley]

Another theory

OK. So, I am just setting myself up for death here. So since there's already such a huge target on my head, I may as well come right out and give you all the information I have so I can help the village as much as possible before I follow in the footsteps of our beloved Mr. Nathans.

Adam Sokren has pointed out again that Ebenezer Hewitt announced his night action yesterday and somehow survived through the night. I believe I have a good idea of who has what night actions. I think because I caught Zed's slip-up, people have decided to trust me and confide in me behind the scenes.

So, here's some intersting info I just received. I was speaking with a small group of people deciding who should be protected last night. We protected Ebenezer because of his claim of his night role to a known werewolf and to the whole mansion. Moron

Another member just explained to me that they can see who was targeting a certain player last night and this player targeted Mr. Hewitt/Eskallon.

What this "follower" found out was that the person I believe to be our protector did indeed target Chief Ebenezer Hewitt/Eskallon. However, so did another player. Could this other player be our killer? I've been suspicious of this player in the few posts he has made. Could we have another werewolf and could this be the killer? It would explain why Mr. Hewitt wasn't killed and why we didn't see a werewolf kill someone last night.

I won't post this person's name but am contacting him in private. If he has a valid explanation of what he was doing, I'll be his spokesperson. If not, there will be a play written about him.

[Alopex]

Interesting... Once you've contacted the person in question I suppose you will tell us who she/he was?

[Hinckley]

Interesting... Once you've contacted the person in question I suppose you will tell us who she/he was?

Seems I already answered this

(ahem)

If I contact the person and they have a believable explanation, I will keep their identity a secret. If not, I will reveal them and hopefully hang him out to dry.

While I'm on a suicide mission, I may as well go all out.

(ahem)

Hey Hunter! I know who makes the bullets! Apparently my song was too subtle. Contact me.

Well, this will certainly be a nice last day. Cock and applesauce for everyone!

I really don't care as long as the werewolves die in the end and I'll contribute any way I can. The werewolves seem pretty sloppy at this point. I don't mind dying to give the villagers the advantage they need to win in the long run.

Go village! Don't forget me.

[def]

Interesting... Once you've contacted the person in question I suppose you will tell us who she/he was?

It depends if they're good guys or not. For the time being, we can trust that Hinck's on the good guys side, and there's nothing to be gained with exposing other confirmed innocents. It actually puts a target on their head. If they're bad, even then, it's better to keep it quiet until they're being voted out, so that they feel relaxed until the axe comes down on them. As long as there are a few people who know what's going on.

[Hinckley]

As long as there are a few people who know what's going on.

Yes, we're covered.

[Eskallon]

What our officer said we said in private I can confirm is true but let me add something he forgot to tell you.

"Hello chief, I'd like to start feeling through some of the patrons of the mansion, and I thought it best to start with the members of the force who I have worked with before, have you been in touch with Draggy at all?"

That was how he contacted me in the beggining and he mentions nothing about how he wants to gain trust, or aims to talk about something important but he says "Have you been in touch with Draggy", is it just me or does this seem suspicous to you. I also replied in the next post asking "What does that have to do with me"

The difference between me and you Adam was that once the evidence was slapped in my face I turned it around and apologised whereas you then went on to lecture us with a very long speech about Dacius. So adding that to the fact of Pm's shows how I reacted to the evidence compared to you.

Another theory

Adam Sokren has pointed out again that Ebenezer Hewitt announced his night action yesterday and somehow survived through the night. I believe I have a good idea of who has what night actions. I think because I caught Zed's slip-up, people have decided to trust me and confide in me behind the scenes.

So, here's some intersting info I just received. I was speaking with a small group of people deciding who should be protected last night. We protected Ebenezer because of his claim of his night role to a known werewolf and to the whole mansion. Moron

Another member just explained to me that they can see who was targeting a certain player last night and this player targeted Mr. Hewitt/Eskallon.

What this "follower" found out was that the person I believe to be our protector did indeed target Chief Ebenezer Hewitt/Eskallon. However, so did another player. Could this other player be our killer? I've been suspicious of this player in the few posts he has made. Could we have another werewolf and could this be the killer? It would explain why Mr. Hewitt wasn't killed and why we didn't see a werewolf kill someone last night.

I won't post this person's name but am contacting him in private. If he has a valid explanation of what he was doing, I'll be his spokesperson. If not, there will be a play written about him.

I even thought that after revealing my role to a werewolf that I would be dead last night so I can confirm that I was a likely kill-mate, however I also know I was protected so I am inclined to believe Harriet.

[Fugazi]

You know, I just had a thought... Dacius was not killed because he was active yesterday... He was killed because his death would bring suspicion to those who mistrusted him, in particular Adam Sokern. That's what I would have done had I been one of the scum. I'm thinking that Mr Sokern is being framed by one of a third party, a logical move. Which does not mean that he's innocent -- only not part of the same group. He still could be a werewolf or something else.

[def]

You know, I just had a thought... Dacius was not killed because he was active yesterday... He was killed because his death would bring suspicion to those who mistrusted him, in particular Adam Sokern. That's what I would have done had I been one of the scum. I'm thinking that Mr Sokern is being framed by one of a third party, a logical move. Which does not mean that he's innocent -- only not part of the same group. He still could be a werewolf or something else.

He isn't being blamed by anyone for Officer Nathans' death though. Since the killer wasn't likely a werewolf, it doesn't make Sokern look like a werewolf.

[badboytje88]

Good morning everyone. It seems I overslept a little bit. Well what can I say a girl needs her beauty sleep. I’m very glad we managed to find a werewolf on our first night. I am however saddened by the death of Dacius. But his death leads to finding a new werewolf. Listen up:

The death of Dacius was not by the hand of a werewolf. Werewolves kill their victim and eat them. So I think it’s pretty safe to say this wasn’t a werewolf kill. Thus either the third party has a killer too, or there’s a villager who can kill at night. The last option seems rather unlikely, because the villager in question must be very stupid to vote out Dacius when he lead (together with Harriet) to the conviction of a werewolf. My guess is thus that Dacius was killed by an impartial.

On to Sokern. Sokern claimed he tried to make Dacius slip up, because Sokern claims to believe Dacius was a werewolf. HOWEVER someone really did slip up and he refused to see it. With other words we were quite sure we had found a werewolf, Sokern didn’t help in any way and kept defending the werewolf. He ended up not voting that day. It wouldn’t have made any sense because if he did vote for Zed, nobody would have believed him since he had been defending him the whole day. On the other hand there was the Chief who voted for Dacius during the day. Care to explain why you voted for him Chief, and why you took back your vote later on the day?

The blocker apparently was smart enough to block Sokern. And look what happened, no werewolf killings tonight. What a coincidence!? It might be, cause it is possible the werewolves converted someone last night.

Hey Hunter! I know who makes the bullets! Apparently my song was too subtle. Contact me.

Whahaha I was reading all the posts and I was like why hasn't anyone asked about the silver bullets Harriet couldn't have been more clear about her being the one making the silver bullets

If you excuse me I need to go through Day 1 to read my husbands conversations. I don't want him to get lynched.

[Eskallon]

On the other hand there was the Chief who voted for Dacius during the day. Care to explain why you voted for him Chief, and why you took back your vote later on the day?

As I have already explained, I thought Dacius was a little suspicous at first but as soon as I was presented with more evidence for Zed being a werewolf I reviewed my decision and un-voted him.

[Rick]

He was killed because his death would bring suspicion to those who mistrusted him, in particular Adam Sokern.

Mistrusting the late Mr. Nathans is not the prime reason for suspecting officer Stokern. It's his determined defense 'til the end of Zed Philips that makes him look most suspicious in my eyes.

Beatrice, it's either that the werewolf killer was blocked or that the target of the killer was protected, which is Harriet's story. I'm very interested to hear the defense of the other person that apparently targeted Mr. Hewit last night.

[badboytje88]

So it's either Sok, because he was blocked last night or it was someone, who we do not know who attacked the protected Chief. That indeed sounds plausible. If there's no solid lead by the end of the day I might vote for Sok.

[Rick]

Whahaha I was reading all the posts and I was like why hasn't anyone asked about the silver bullets Harriet couldn't have been more clear about her being the one making the silver bullets

I think Harriet is merely saying she knows who makes the bullets and that they need to be brought to the village gun owner. I.e, she asks the gun owner to speak to her about it.

She acts like she's the Messiah though.

[badboytje88]

I was going to say something about me misreading Harriets post, but then I remembered misreading is apparently a werewolf trait so I'll just whistle and walk away slowly :laugh:

[Eskallon]

I was going to say something about me misreading Harriets post, but then I remembered misreading is apparently a werewolf trait so I'll just whistle and walk away slowly :laugh:

WEREWOLF

[Sandy]

Alright, I've waded through all this talk now.

To me, Officer Sokern is still the prime suspect. He is so obviously grasping for straws at this moment. It is obvious that he is either a stupid werewolf or even more stupid villager, both of which we can do well without. We don't need a Jebus on our village to be the scum's figurehead, thank you.

Anyway, I will vote for Adam Sokern in due time if nothing more concrete comes up. I am interested to hear about Harriet's alternative theory, though.

My beloved wife said that I was being suspected for something. I hope she doesn't confuse me with my brother Charles Synclair, to whom Harriet exposed her mistrust on earlier. I certainly haven't moved an inch from our bed last night, so I have no idea why I would be suspected of anything (unless there is a framer leaving werewolf hair on innocent people's pillows or something).

[Fugazi]

He isn't being blamed by anyone for Officer Nathans' death though. Since the killer wasn't likely a werewolf, it doesn't make Sokern look like a werewolf.

He isn't blamed for the death today, because it appears that he was blocked. The killer would not know beforehand how the death would be shown, and he probably hoped that it would be ambiguous enough to make everyone believe that Dacius was killed by a werewolf.

[badboytje88]

My beloved wife said that I was being suspected for something. I hope she doesn't confuse me with my brother Charles Synclair, to whom Harriet exposed her mistrust on earlier. I certainly haven't moved an inch from our bed last night, so I have no idea why I would be suspected of anything (unless there is a framer leaving werewolf hair on innocent people's pillows or something).

Oops hunny I misread AGAIN. don't lynch me

[def]

He isn't blamed for the death today, because it appears that he was blocked. The killer would not know beforehand how the death would be shown, and he probably hoped that it would be ambiguous enough to make everyone believe that Dacius was killed by a werewolf.

Possibly, but in my experience, killers all have their own M.O. so if that's what someone did, it was due to inexperience, not craftiness.

[Peanuts]

Another theory

OK. So, I am just setting myself up for death here. So since there's already such a huge target on my head, I may as well come right out and give you all the information I have so I can help the village as much as possible before I follow in the footsteps of our beloved Mr. Nathans.

Adam Sokren has pointed out again that Ebenezer Hewitt announced his night action yesterday and somehow survived through the night. I believe I have a good idea of who has what night actions. I think because I caught Zed's slip-up, people have decided to trust me and confide in me behind the scenes.

So, here's some intersting info I just received. I was speaking with a small group of people deciding who should be protected last night. We protected Ebenezer because of his claim of his night role to a known werewolf and to the whole mansion. Moron

Another member just explained to me that they can see who was targeting a certain player last night and this player targeted Mr. Hewitt/Eskallon.

What this "follower" found out was that the person I believe to be our protector did indeed target Chief Ebenezer Hewitt/Eskallon. However, so did another player. Could this other player be our killer? I've been suspicious of this player in the few posts he has made. Could we have another werewolf and could this be the killer? It would explain why Mr. Hewitt wasn't killed and why we didn't see a werewolf kill someone last night.

I won't post this person's name but am contacting him in private. If he has a valid explanation of what he was doing, I'll be his spokesperson. If not, there will be a play written about him.

Well, that complicates things, but it also leaves us two good suspects, Mr. Sokern and the killer you don't want to name.

I'm excited what you'll find out.

I'm sorry my good fellow, I guess no one can confirm I received a message from Zed, but if that corner of the room wasn't blocked off, I suppose one could have seen that Zed and myself were talking (If you could see the profile views). I guess he decided to contact me because I stood up for him when that argument was still young, he saw the hint of doubt in my voice and must've decided that I would have been easier to convince rather then someone else. Zed told me about all his troubles in his "real life" supposedly and how he had simply "mis-read" the rules that god gave us so to speak. He then went on to tell me how he was the protector and he didn't want to say it in the day thread to convince you guys because that would mean he would be killed at night because he could not protect himself, which seemed reasonable, but looking back I should have seen how flawed it was, in essence it was a sob story coupled with a night action that I thought would be useful, but in the end it was all just lies

You didn't say it was weak arguments and a strong night action that convinced you Zed wasn't scum. Actually, from the beginning of the day since few hours ago you said t was a reasonable speech, that made you sure Zed wasn't scum. Now you say it wasn't valid at all, you were just stupid.

I myself think, you told us he convinced you with valid arguments, then you had to tell us your arguments, and had to make stuff up. You didn't have valid arguments that were stronger than Harriets accuse, so you took weak arguments and said you trusted him blindly.

Also, the question was talked several times before you answered, maybe you realized, that not answering would make you even more suspicious. I don't turst you at all.

And, i'm just wondering, are we allowed to quote from PotatoMegablocks? THe rule is only talking about the ones send by the host.

[Eskallon]

And, i'm just wondering, are we allowed to quote from PotatoMegablocks? THe rule is only talking about the ones send by the host.

The rules of life don't say we can't, this is all thay say on the issue:

Do not ever directly quote or claim to quote something the game moderator has sent to you via PM, whether it be your character information, night action results, or any other form of communication.

[Hinckley]

Beatrice, it's either that the werewolf killer was blocked or that the target of the killer was protected, which is Harriet's story. I'm very interested to hear the defense of the other person that apparently targeted Mr. Hewit last night. How possible is it that the town has more than one person with protective powers?

The person who also targeted Ebenezer Hewitt also claims to have protective powers.

We don't need a Jebus on our village to be the scum's figurehead, thank you.

Yay! You're right! We don't!

I'm a numbnuts. That would be three villagers with protective powers. Sorry, I can't count.

I guess the answer is that I believe there can be more than one villager with protective powers, but three??