General Pirates of the Caribbean Theme Discussion Thread

[Ogre]

For those who are concerned about price mark-up I would suggest you look at Toy Story for your price comparison rather than Star Wars. This is a Disney license not LucasFilm.

Or look at 'Prince of Persia' (another Disney license). Those sets weren't too badly priced, IMO.

Edited December 31, 2010 by Ogre

[lt.Gonville brickhead]

In contribution to the sword conversation.

Jack in the films uses an extended sabre but I don't think we'll see a new sword that soon.

I also think we'll see black hull peices.(It is the Black pearl. )

[Sirens-of-Titan]

I don't see the reason behind the worry that these sets will be poor in parts; the PoP sets were some of the most interesting and useful part packs I bought least year.

Don't let the prelim minifigures worry you; there will be tons of extras and useful accessories to come from this theme; mark my words.

[Enpaz]

I'll definitely get the set with the cannibals, if not all of them!

I love the fact Pirates is coming back...

[Gryphon Ink]

Boys, boys, boys... Let us prepare to buckle our swashes and pick some nits.

Jack Sparrow ("Captain") uses a hanger in almost all of his adventures. This is basically a long, light cutlass. No real reason Lego should use anything but a standard cutlass to represent this weapon.

Will Turner uses a cutlass for most of the movies, as do most of the background pirates. This is historically the most common weapon for pirate crews and most fighting men at sea. Will does fight with a rapier in his last duel, though, and possibly also in the smithy scene where he first fights Jack.

The sword Will made for Norrington, which shows up in all three movies and is passed on to Will late in the third movie, is a small sword, which was the final combat evolution of the rapier. This was reasonable as a ceremonial weapon for a gentleman officer.

And of course, Davy Jones uses a claymore, which is a hideously unsuitable weapon for a seaman, but terribly Scottish and well suited to Jones' personality.

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Back on topic, I'm thinking this line is not some kind of revolution, but basically Classic Pirates with fleshies. The Isla de la Muerta set looks a lot like a 2011 version of Loot Island. The ships will be no more or less accurate than other Lego Pirates ships, and use mostly the same parts. The only difference that I can see is if there is a POTC Kraken, it ain't gonna be a dinky little rubber octopus.

[blueandwhite]

It's too bad that these preliminary photos are so 'preliminary'. Given that so much here is placeholder it's really hard to get a strong sense of how exciting these sets will be. In many ways this line looks like it's going to be a repeat of the PoP and Harry Potter lines where the minifigs and accessories stand out and the sets themselves fall a bit flat. That doesn't really surprise me as it's hard to make a convincing set piece for $20-30. I'm more interested in what the larger sets might look like as well as the remote possibility of a S@H exclusive ship.

[Gryphon Ink]

In many ways this line looks like it's going to be a repeat of the PoP and Harry Potter lines where the minifigs and accessories stand out and the sets themselves fall a bit flat.

I really hope you're right, as HP and POP gave us some of the nicest sets of 2010... POP had some brilliant architecture AND action features in at least two sets, and HP had nice, immaculately detailed buildings. The Burrow is still my favorite 2010 set that I haven't bought yet because you can't find it anywhere.

[Sirens-of-Titan]

It's too bad that these preliminary photos are so 'preliminary'. Given that so much here is placeholder it's really hard to get a strong sense of how exciting these sets will be. In many ways this line looks like it's going to be a repeat of the PoP and Harry Potter lines where the minifigs and accessories stand out and the sets themselves fall a bit flat. That doesn't really surprise me as it's hard to make a convincing set piece for $20-30. I'm more interested in what the larger sets might look like as well as the remote possibility of a S@H exclusive ship.

I'm not sure I agree with that; after all the Prince of Persia sets had some amazing accessories and details. The "fight for the dagger" set was priceless as it had so many wonderful new extras, it was hard to put it down, and even harder to break it up for the parts, of which it offered countless useful ones.

The prelims look great for this new theme; I mean, look at Isa de la Muerta; that's a lot of bley!

The cannibal escape features a ton of useful parts in earth colors.

Even the mill has potential for castle MOC's

Edited January 2, 2011 by Sirens-Of-Titan

[sologuy369]

hey,

sorry if this was mentioned but where might i find the PotC promo add(the one with "captain" Jack Sparrow and the new movie"?

[joeygunns]

hey,

sorry if this was mentioned but where might i find the PotC promo add(the one with "captain" Jack Sparrow and the new movie"?

Youtube but here is a link.

there is the trailer.

here is the promo Captain Jack did a few months ago.

Enjoy.

[vexorian]

It's too bad that these preliminary photos are so 'preliminary'. Given that so much here is placeholder it's really hard to get a strong sense of how exciting these sets will be. In many ways this line looks like it's going to be a repeat of the PoP and Harry Potter lines where the minifigs and accessories stand out and the sets themselves fall a bit flat. That doesn't really surprise me as it's hard to make a convincing set piece for $20-30. I'm more interested in what the larger sets might look like as well as the remote possibility of a S@H exclusive ship.

I guess the sets for which we have no images are as progressed as the other images, but they are not visible because they contain stuff from the upcoming movie which ought not be leaked yet.

[______]

I hope the Black Pearl is nearly as big as the IFS, even the prelim with no pic shows it as the biggest set.

[sologuy369]

Youtube but here is a link.

there is the trailer.

here is the promo Captain Jack did a few months ago.

Enjoy.

THANKS!

Now second on my list, is this picture in the back on set instructions? If yes, which set might I find it in?

[VBBN]

I havent followed this topic but believe me, I'm VERY excited about this ew theme, simply cannot wait for them to start appearing, hoping the Black pearl is going to be magnificent.

[Brickus]

THANKS!

Now second on my list, is this picture in the back on set instructions? If yes, which set might I find it in?

No, I don't think it is in any instructions, but it is found in the LEGO catalogue.

[Jack Bricker]

If you look at the listings of the black pearl and the queen anne's revenge you will see that they have the same box deminsions. I wonder if this means that they will have the same parts count. Also both boxes are a little smaller than the Imperial Flagship set.

[Gryphon Ink]

If you look at the listings of the black pearl and the queen anne's revenge you will see that they have the same box deminsions. I wonder if this means that they will have the same parts count. Also both boxes are a little smaller than the Imperial Flagship set.

I mentioned a long ways back that the Queen Anne's Revenge and the Black Pearl are actually "played" by the same Hollywood ship with cosmetic surgery, so the sets ought to be about the same dimensions, although I'm sure the parts count won't be exactly the same. For the role of the QAR, they built up the stern of the ship and made some other changes.

When I mentioned this the first time, I said Disney had to believe all their viewers were dummies that wouldn't notice the striking similarity between the ships. However, I've changed my mind about this. My prediction now is that the similarity is a story element. There is some kind of (probably supernatural) link between the two.

[Jack Bricker]

I mentioned a long ways back that the Queen Anne's Revenge and the Black Pearl are actually "played" by the same Hollywood ship with cosmetic surgery, so the sets ought to be about the same dimensions, although I'm sure the parts count won't be exactly the same. For the role of the QAR, they built up the stern of the ship and made some other changes.

When I mentioned this the first time, I said Disney had to believe all their viewers were dummies that wouldn't notice the striking similarity between the ships. However, I've changed my mind about this. My prediction now is that the similarity is a story element. There is some kind of (probably supernatural) link between the two.

I know that the ships in the movie are played by the same ship but, in regards to the sets, if one of the ships is a regular set (Queen Anne's Revenge) and the other is an exclusive set (The Black Pearl) than the black pearl is going to be larger than the queen annes revenge and thereby the box of the black pearl set is going to be larger than the queen annes revenge set.

However I noticed that the boxes are the exact same size and that they are both smaller than the Imperial Flagship set box so, it is very probable that the Black Pearl will not be as big as the Imperial Flagship.

Edited January 3, 2011 by Jack Bricker

[Haltiamieli]

if one of the ships is a regular set (Queen Anne's Revenge) and the other is an exclusive set (The Black Pearl)

The Black Pearl won't probably be exclusive set, it's just coming later than the other sets. The catalogue from which our information on these sets comes from didn't (according to someone's comment here in Eurobricks) include Diagon Alley, this year's exclusive of the Harry Potter line. So presumably it wouldn't include PotC exclusives either.

[Sirens-of-Titan]

I wonder if the Black Pearl will manned by pirates or skeletons, after all the movie had both, so while the ship itself should look like a Ghost ship, the crew could go either way.

I am more partial to actual pirate figs, there are enough undead in most other themes at the moment.

Edited January 3, 2011 by Sirens-Of-Titan

[clouette]

Oh man this is the year of Lego ships. So many ships. I'm gonna get a bigger shelf for all of them.

[fred67]

I wonder if the Black Pearl will manned by pirates or skeletons, after all the movie had both, so while the ship itself should look like a Ghost ship, the crew could go either way.

I am more partial to actual pirate figs, there are enough undead in most other themes at the moment.

Well... there's no "the movie," since there's three movies and this new line is being released coinciding with the fourth one that we haven't seen yet. Since the curse was broken by the end of the first movie, and the ship is being released with the fourth movie, I'd suggest they'd darn well better NOT be skeletons (which, frankly, I don't even count as being "real" minifigures).

[Sirens-of-Titan]

Well... there's no "the movie," since there's three movies and this new line is being released coinciding with the fourth one that we haven't seen yet. Since the curse was broken by the end of the first movie, and the ship is being released with the fourth movie, I'd suggest they'd darn well better NOT be skeletons (which, frankly, I don't even count as being "real" minifigures).

Granted that's true, but we aren't only seeing sets from the last movie: the cannibal escape and mill sets are all from previous movies, so that's why we have no way of knowing which Black Pearl will be released. (Since that was the title of the first film, it's entirely possible that it features skeletons, although I agree with you that this version will be very disappointing.)

[Archer]

The skeletons did have tattered clothes, which means there's a chance that we could have an undead crew that is ghostly and creepy, but not simply made of skeletons, which after fantasy era castle I never need to see another of.

[Torpid Energy]

I'd suggest they'd darn well better NOT be skeletons (which, frankly, I don't even count as being "real" minifigures).

Hrmm. Are you saying skeletons were half the men they were? I feel the same with you as well!