Izzy Posted March 19, 2011 Posted March 19, 2011 Not the best choice of wording though. It is this kind of fluff that you keep coming out with that makes me think you have plenty to hide. Saying lots without saying anything at all. Maybe you are just to keen to be here on this island or something, but you smile and wink way too frikkin much for someone who should be scared for their life like the rest of us are.
smittyfan Posted March 19, 2011 Posted March 19, 2011 But why point fingers with every single little piece of something that someone else digs up? Yesterday it was agreeing that Raquel was suspicious for bringing forth 'information' immediately, and pointing fingers at her as well since she had long hair, but then you went right out and said you suspected people with long hair. Then as soon as the rest of us suspected Raquel and wanted her to explain, you go and agree with us that Raquel is suspicious. Then today it's you saying Keith's statement is bugging you even though he was just speaking figuratively. And you didn't even think of any of those things yourself. Colette thought Raquel was suspicious for bringing 'information' so suddenly before you did. Panda voted against Raquel first. Cruz noticed Keith's statement about bloody hands first. It's one thing to try to dig up useful information, but it's another to take theories other people come up with that aren't necessarily sound and start accusing people. I'm not meaning to point fingers, just using whatever comes along, to learn as much as I can. Honestly I'd already been wondering about Raquel since she didn't show up at all the first day, and wondering what she'd have to say. I didn't know either way if she could be trusted or not, and gave her a chance until I knew it was indeed a lie. Then I dropped the whole hair thing. I wanted to hear from Keith himself what his statement meant, and to clarify it, not just hear everyone else's suposition of what it meant. It could easily have a double meaning. From Day 1, I've just had a 'gut feeling' about Keith... It is this kind of fluff that you keep coming out with that makes me think you have plenty to hide. Saying lots without saying anything at all. Maybe you are just to keen to be here on this island or something, but you smile and wink way too frikkin much for someone who should be scared for their life like the rest of us are. My appologies for always speaking up and all the smileys... It's part of this forum addict that I am, and it's kind of habitual... sorry... Would you would rather I hide away in the shadows?
XimenaPaulina Posted March 19, 2011 Posted March 19, 2011 Ok, so after gathering the opinions of who I think are innocent people, I'm ready to share with you the valuable info that I've gathered: (For the purposes of this presentation, I'll try not to speak with my French accent again) From the people that I've talked to, couple with the general observations of other people's behavior, here's the 'concensus' of the group: The possible scums: - Siegmund Freiburg (smittyfan) - due to her reluctance to converse via PM, plus some additional evidence below - Geert Rotterdam (Gregorovich) - due to general inactivity, which is highly suspicious scummy behavior - Erin Ennis (Euvor) - like Geert, due to general inactivity - Dreo Jacmel (dr jones) - to my surprise, most of those who I've talked to told me Dreo has been acting scummy, with the following evidence below: Townie #1: Dreo/dr Jones has seemed the most suspicious to me lately out of the suspicious ones on the list, also my 'gut feel' tells me he's mafia. Always says a short 'this is terrible' message then goes on to chatting - "who'd like a drink", doesn't make an effort to discuss and find the mafia. Townie #2: My biggest suspect at the moment is Dreo/dr jones; he did unvote Raquel, but only to vote for her again, effectively casting the deciding vote against her. Townie #3: Dreo/dr jones- he bandwagoned his vote Day 1 and did Wishy-Washy Voting Day 2. And suspiciously, Siegmund/smittyfan, comes to his defense in the game thread, which Kylan/Cutlass Iz rebutted. Dreo did unvote, but then revoted... The fact that he unvoted does show he has a heart, so I think it kind of clears him for the time being. And look what's the response of Dreo/dr jones to me, he's hesitant to vote for Siegmund/smittyfan (Fellow Scums?) I agree that frequently not being around is really suspicious, and I to suspect Smittyfan, but... we need evidence. I'm ,not convicting another innocent cause of hastiness. And someone made a great observation for everybody to think about: Townie #2: Here's a little something I noticed from the voting on day 2: ... Dreo/dr jones votes Raven - Racquel/Raven 5 Bridget/Brickdoctor votes Raven - Racquel/Raven 6 Dreo/dr jones unvotes Raven - Racquel/Raven 5 Geert/Gregorovich votes Raven - Racquel/Raven 6 Siegmund/smittyfan votes Raven - Racquel/Raven 7 Dreo/dr jones votes Raven - Racquel/Raven 8 ... Looks like our suspects were quite instrumental in getting Raquel lynched. So, right now it seems we have a clear group of suspicious people. With the general consensus, I will cast my Vote for Dreo Jacmel/dr jones, with the intention of getting his explanation on this accusations. Of course this is no way my final vote, if he's able to convince me otherwise, I'll unvote for him.
Brickdoctor Posted March 19, 2011 Posted March 19, 2011 I'm not meaning to point fingers, just using whatever comes along, to learn as much as I can. But why use 'whatever comes along' regardless of how much sense it might make, instead of trying to find information yourself? If I were you, in order 'to learn as much as I can', I'd be looking for that information instead of waiting for someone else to come forward with it. [/snip] That's some good stuff right there, Colette; plenty of things I didn't notice. I do agree with what you're saying regarding Dreo, and I to want to know what he says about that.
smittyfan Posted March 19, 2011 Posted March 19, 2011 There's nothing wrong with not wanting to comunicate via PM. It's a big part of what got our Ravi killed. Someone misquoted and took wrong part of what he said, so it's logical for others to avoid all that. I don't count anyone suspicious for not wanting to say anything privately. In fact, it's those who say the most behind closed doors that we should be the most worried about. They obviously feel the need to hide under other's noses. I don't have anything to say that shouldn't be said to everyone. I don't have any reason to hide away privately. But why use 'whatever comes along' regardless of how much sense it might make, instead of trying to find information yourself? If I were you, in order 'to learn as much as I can', I'd be looking for that information instead of waiting for someone else to come forward with it. Raquel 'brought forth information' and look what happened to her? None of us know everything and have to make the best of what comes along, as well as gather information of our own. Believe it or not, I've actually calculated who has made how many appearances each day, who's voted for who, the order in which votes have taken place, who didn't vote, where peoples places of origin are, etc.. I'm a nerd, not a killer...
XimenaPaulina Posted March 19, 2011 Posted March 19, 2011 Raquel 'brought forth information' and look what happened to her? None of us know everything and have to make the best of what comes along, as well as gather information of our own. Believe it or not, I've actually calculated who has made how many appearances each day, who's voted for who, the order in which votes have taken place, who didn't vote, where peoples places of origin are, etc.. I'm a nerd, not a killer... You know what Siegmund, you really are starting to irritate the hell out of me. It is this type of passiveness, overly-cautious, defensive behavior amidst all these killings that make you highly suspicious. A real concerned person will be do his utmost best to find ways to identify the killers, like what other people do privately. Unlike you, who just observes on the sidelines and uses 'whatever comes along' nonsense. And you say you have data? evidence? Then bring it out in the open for cryin' out loud! Just like what normal concerned innocent people do. But what? Maybe you really have no evidence at all? Or you're too afraid since YOURE SCUM! Sheez, if you're really innocent, have some BALLS like a MAN.
Brickdoctor Posted March 19, 2011 Posted March 19, 2011 Raquel 'brought forth information' and look what happened to her? Raquel brought forth false information. It would be more beneficial to the rest of us for you to try to find true information rather than just to take someone else's information and accuse people. None of us know everything and have to make the best of what comes along, as well as gather information of our own. Believe it or not, I've actually calculated who has made how many appearances each day, who's voted for who, the order in which votes have taken place, who didn't vote, where peoples places of origin are, etc.. I'm a nerd, not a killer... So why then don't you apply that information instead of waiting for someone else to bring information and then using theirs?
smittyfan Posted March 19, 2011 Posted March 19, 2011 And suspiciously, Siegmund/smittyfan, comes to his defense in the game thread, which Kylan/Cutlass Iz rebutted. I wasn't 'coming to his defense'. I honestly hadn't thought much of him since he did unvote. It didn't even occur to me at the time that he could of been hiding something...
XimenaPaulina Posted March 19, 2011 Posted March 19, 2011 Oh and BTW, I offered to talk to you privately, ready to prove my innocence to you, but what do you do? You refused to communicate! Is that really normal innocent behavior? You scared deep-sh*tted SCUM.
smittyfan Posted March 19, 2011 Posted March 19, 2011 Raquel brought forth false information. It would be more beneficial to the rest of us for you to try to find true information rather than just to take someone else's information and accuse people. So why then don't you apply that information instead of waiting for someone else to bring information and then using theirs? I didn't even know it was false information until Claudia had mentioned that Raquel was lying... For a while, I even wondered if Claudia had been the one to lie that Raquel was lying. I just kept that thought to myself though. I really wasn't sure of what to make of it either way. As others agreed, it could still have been a way to maybe weed out the killer. Once I learned that it was a lie, I dropped it completely. I didn't push it any further.
Brickdoctor Posted March 19, 2011 Posted March 19, 2011 You scared deep-sh*tted SCUM. Okay, Colette, calm down. No need for so much yelling and language.
smittyfan Posted March 19, 2011 Posted March 19, 2011 You scared deep-sh*tted SCUM. Wow... That's harsh... I never said that you couldn't tell me what your defense was, I just thought it was suspicious of you to say that 'In one statement I can prove my innocence' instead of just coming out with it. If you truly are innocent then you shouldn't have a problem with coming out publicly with a defense. To me, THAT is scummy...
XimenaPaulina Posted March 19, 2011 Posted March 19, 2011 Okay, Colette, calm down. No need for so much yelling and language. Wow... That's harsh... My apologies, I'm getting a bit emotional with all what's been happening, but most especially with the general cautiousness and lack of urgency of the innocent people, it really frustrates to the point I lose my beloved French accent. And I've read some All-Fur stuff in this same situation, and 'their language' makes us look like we're religious people here.... I never said that you couldn't tell me what your defense was, I just thought it was suspicious of you to say that 'In one statement I can prove my innocence' instead of just coming out with it. If you truly are innocent then you shouldn't have a problem with coming out publicly with a defense. To me, THAT is scummy... I cannot tell you that since that part is metagaming something that I cannot say publicly and has no meaning in this world. Do you understand that? And I think I've already proven my innocence to everybody else, of course not including you and the rest of your fellow scums. BTW, I've PMéd talked privately to you again, and still you have no response whatsoever. So who's scared and doesn't have something to hide huh?
CommanderFox Posted March 19, 2011 Posted March 19, 2011 if you're really innocent, have some BALLS like a MAN. You scared deep-sh*tted SCUM. Strong words for a french chick! Vote: Dreo Jacmel/dr jones If you'll give some explanations Dreo, then i might be willing to take my vote back, if, you convince me, but for now your a little to suspicious. CF
Brickdoctor Posted March 19, 2011 Posted March 19, 2011 And I've read some All-Fur stuff in this same situation, and 'their language' makes us look like we're religious people here.... Yeah, I was looking that over and thinking the same thing.
XimenaPaulina Posted March 19, 2011 Posted March 19, 2011 And juzt like that.... Mr. Siegmund decides NOT to talk with me privately for two instancez already (the most recent jzst a few moments ago), and juzt leaves the room (logs-out) and remains silent. He didn't even answer ze accusations on him adequately. Now that iz SCUMMY... With regardz to Dreo, we're all waiting for your response. I just hope you wouldn't put any poison in our drinkz...
Brickdoctor Posted March 19, 2011 Posted March 19, 2011 And juzt like that.... Mr. Siegmund decides NOT to talk with me privately for two instancez already (the most recent jzst a few moments ago), and juzt leaves the room (logs-out) and remains silent. He didn't even answer ze accusations on him adequately. Now that iz SCUMMY... I agree. Siegmund may have good reasons before for not wanting to talk privately, but now that he is under suspicion... With regardz to Dreo, we're all waiting for your response. I just hope you wouldn't put any poison in our drinkz... That we are, although I just checked and Dreo has been napping for the last few hours, (Paradisa time; over 12 hours real time) so there is a reason for his silence.
smittyfan Posted March 19, 2011 Posted March 19, 2011 And juzt like that.... Mr. Siegmund decides NOT to talk with me privately for two instancez already (the most recent jzst a few moments ago), and juzt leaves the room (logs-out) and remains silent. He didn't even answer ze accusations on him adequately. Now that iz SCUMMY... With regardz to Dreo, we're all waiting for your response. I just hope you wouldn't put any poison in our drinkz... If you must know I left to have dinner with my family.. Just because I don't talk to people privately doesn't make me scum! Do I have to like put everything I've publicly said into a private message to you, so you'll believe my innocence? I really don't understand that logic! Despise the fact that I personally find you 'I can't post my defense publicly' as scum, I'll ignore that, for now, and go with my initial gut feeling and Vote:Keith Worthing (Kartoffel Viking) because he's been quite adamant about offing the Staff, and doesn't even seem to consider that the guests are a posibility. As well, as I've found his previous statement about 'wiping the blood off his hands' as a sort of double meaning..
Dan the Brickman Posted March 19, 2011 Posted March 19, 2011 And juzt like that.... Mr. Siegmund decides NOT to talk with me privately for two instancez already (the most recent jzst a few moments ago), and juzt leaves the room (logs-out) and remains silent. He didn't even answer ze accusations on him adequately. Now that iz SCUMMY... With regardz to Dreo, we're all waiting for your response. I just hope you wouldn't put any poison in our drinkz... not to metagame, but this person was in the other room, and had to go do some stuff really quickly, and will probably be back and have her response up before i finish typing this..... Wow... Things are heating up! We already lost the chef, it would suck to loose our bartender too! So, it seems that Dreo, and Smitty are under fire now? I have to analyze this a bit. I have a headache. The killer MUST be found soon! But, Im not sure what to do. ...and while Sigmond, and Dreo both looks suspicious here, I also suspect Erin too... but, who do I pick? Ill just weigh out what each of you have to say. Worst defense gets my vote....
Izzy Posted March 19, 2011 Posted March 19, 2011 not to metagame, but this person was in the other room, and had to go do some stuff really quickly, and will probably be back and have her response up before i finish typing this..... Wow... Things are heating up! We already lost the chef, it would suck to loose our bartender too! So, it seems that Dreo, and Smitty are under fire now? I have to analyze this a bit. I have a headache. The killer MUST be found soon! But, Im not sure what to do. ...and while Sigmond, and Dreo both looks suspicious here, I also suspect Erin too... but, who do I pick? Ill just weigh out what each of you have to say. Worst defense gets my vote.... Maybe you should go lie down before talking anymore, you are calling Sigmond Smitty. WTH?!? It would suck to loose the bartender? It sucks to lose anyone, but if they are scum. BEGONE! I can pour my own drinks, I have 2 hands and a heartbeat. My god, you people are getting caught up on the most trivial things. THREE PEOPLE ARE DEAD!!!! Get your priorities straight and start thinking for yourself instead of waiting for other to make uo your mind for you.
CommanderFox Posted March 19, 2011 Posted March 19, 2011 It would suck to loose the bartender? It sucks to lose anyone, but if they are scum. BEGONE! I can pour my own drinks, I have 2 hands and a heartbeat. My god, you people are getting caught up on the most trivial things. THREE PEOPLE ARE DEAD!!!! Get your priorities straight and start thinking for yourself instead of waiting for other to make uo your mind for you. I agree, come on guys, who cares if our bartender is lynched and found guilty. Its either trivial or your sticking up for him. Which? CF
smittyfan Posted March 19, 2011 Posted March 19, 2011 Maybe you should go lie down before talking anymore, you are calling Sigmond Smitty. WTH?!? Not to Metagame here, (or Megablock) but my username is 'smittyfan' because I'm a huge 'fan' of 'Smitty' aka Michael W. Smith. :wub: So 'Smitty' has sometimes become my nickname... You wouldn't be a mean older brother, and pick on your sweet innocent little sister now would you? naw, it's okay, If you think I'm scum then that's your choice, but honestly, I'm not! I'm just an innocent townie who has no idea of who is or isn't scum, and is merely using my best guess to figure it out...
Izzy Posted March 19, 2011 Posted March 19, 2011 Not to Metagame here, (or Megablock) but my username is 'smittyfan' because I'm a huge 'fan' of 'Smitty' aka Michael W. Smith. :wub: So 'Smitty' has sometimes become my nickname... You wouldn't be a mean older brother, and pick on your sweet innocent little sister now would you? naw, it's okay, If you think I'm scum then that's your choice, but honestly, I'm not! I'm just an innocent townie who has no idea of who is or isn't scum, and is merely using my best guess to figure it out... (This is really not the place to discuss your family, likes and fandom. whether you cross it out or not) And still with the smiling. Are you trying to look like the placid martyr that walks to the gallows with a smile on your face? You really Aren't convincing me at all. My vote stays.
KartoffelViking Posted March 19, 2011 Posted March 19, 2011 [snip] ... he's been quite adamant about offing the Staff, and doesn't even seem to consider that the guests are a posibility. As well, as I've found his previous statement about 'wiping the blood off his hands' as a sort of double meaning.. Aw, Siegmund, my brother from another mother... I was considering defending you from Colette's outrage, but I'm not too keen on doing that now Using the word 'adamant' is a bit strong, isn't it? I was stating a hypothesis, but the logic of it was quickly dismissed by others, and I haven't pursued the issue, apart from a comment in jest to Danielle. And the double meaning was certainly not my intention, as I have explained before. Just to show that I bear no grudge toward you, I won't vote for you at this stage. And I kindly ask that you unvote me at your earliest convenience. But if it comes down to a choice between you and me, I'll be throwing my vote, and anything else I can get my hands on, at you
Dan the Brickman Posted March 19, 2011 Posted March 19, 2011 you are calling Sigmond Smitty. WTH?!? Sorry, I have to remember which nickname to call her now... THREE PEOPLE ARE DEAD!!!! Get your priorities straight and start thinking for yourself instead of waiting for other to make uo your mind for you. It is fair to hear what they each say before we decide? We still have a few hours till noon.another like, 18? Its either trivial or your sticking up for him. Which? CF Both. people are turning on the employee's here. Which, makes me more suspicious of the tourists.
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