Brickdoctor Posted October 31, 2011 Posted October 31, 2011 My distinct impressions in order: Yowza, that story was... crazy. I'm going to pretend that never happened. You forgot and . If you're one of those guys who doesn't like drastic changes in canon (like me), you may also want to use and/or . If you are someone trying to keep track of canon and formulate a sensible storyline, you will probably also want to use .That reminds me, did we confirm that Mortis is coming back for Season 4? Or did they put that off until a later season? Quote
Artanis I Posted October 31, 2011 Posted October 31, 2011 Or did they put that off until a later season? I think I recall Dave saying it wasn't returning in season 4 Quote
commanderneyo Posted November 1, 2011 Posted November 1, 2011 (edited) I think I recall Dave saying it wasn't returning in season 4 Indeed. @Fives I don't know about creating topics for mine. I'm already doing well enough as it is. Though I'm more wondering if it would be allowed here, and not considered just a cheap way of trying to get more views (I already get a good amount). EDIT: And people, Mortis won't be returning to the show. You've got the wrong end of the stick here. The IDEA of Mortis will be continued, but not on Mortis. What I am saying is, we will continue to learn more about Anakin's chosen one story, but not another story about Mortis. Edited November 1, 2011 by commanderneyo Quote
Peanuts Posted November 1, 2011 Posted November 1, 2011 That reminds me, did we confirm that Mortis is coming back for Season 4? Or did they put that off until a later season? I think they said it won't appear in season 4, which I'm happy about. In my opinion Mortis wasn't that bad, but I'd be glad if they wouldn't bring it back. Doing it once is okay, but twice would be a nightmare. But I believe I could enjoy it because I don't care about canon or logic anymore. To be frank, Lucas isn't the only one to destroy the canon, but everyone else is using rock hammers, while Lucas is using a sledge, metaphorically speaking. I don't mind Mandalorian episodes either, their only problem is that they were the reason why the Republic/Imperial Commando were discontinued. Besides that they aren't really bad. But about every episode with Padme in it is predetermined to be silly. Every episode depicting politics is simply horrid, because obviously in the SW universe politics means someone tries to kill someone, and fails if the target is Padme, or Padme tries to introduce some super bill which would solve all the Republic's problems, but everyone shouts at the same time and nobody hears her. Oh, and the whole Dathomir, Savage Opress, Darth Maul and Ventress plot is the second worst thing they've done in my opinion. That's far worse than Mortis and Mandos. Quote
Mikeosaurus Posted November 1, 2011 Posted November 1, 2011 (edited) Oh, and the whole Dathomir, Savage Opress, Darth Maul and Ventress plot is the second worst thing they've done in my opinion. That's far worse than Mortis and Mandos. Hmm, I'll definitely have to find those episodes. Despite the fact that canon-issues really bug me I get a kick out of some of the bad ones, especially when watching them with company MST3k-style! Whatever happened to the rule of two anyway? At the rate this show is churning out sith apprentices you'd think it was a rule of two dozen. Edited November 1, 2011 by Mikeosaurus Quote
Fallenangel Posted November 1, 2011 Posted November 1, 2011 Whatever happened to the rule of two anyway? At the rate this show is churning out sith apprentices you'd think it was a rule of two dozen. The Rule of Two is technically C-canon, so I'm assuming it will be retconned by this series. And in any case, I thought Dooku's adoption of Ventress and Grievous in the original Clone Wars multimedia project predated the 'real' creation of the Rule of Two. Can anyone clarify this? Quote
Fives Posted November 1, 2011 Posted November 1, 2011 Hmm, I'll definitely have to find those episodes. Despite the fact that canon-issues really bug me I get a kick out of some of the bad ones, especially when watching them with company MST3k-style! Whatever happened to the rule of two anyway? At the rate this show is churning out sith apprentices you'd think it was a rule of two dozen. Technically, Ventress and Oppress are not Sith, but dark acolytes, or dark Jedi. The only true Sith are Sidious and Tyrannus. Quote
Artanis I Posted November 1, 2011 Posted November 1, 2011 always two, there are: a master and an apprentice Quote
Brickdoctor Posted November 1, 2011 Posted November 1, 2011 The Rule of Two is technically C-canon, so I'm assuming it will be retconned by this series. And in any case, I thought Dooku's adoption of Ventress and Grievous in the original Clone Wars multimedia project predated the 'real' creation of the Rule of Two. Can anyone clarify this? I believe it does. Darth Bane: Path of Destruction was a 2006 publication. Quote
Clone OPatra Posted November 1, 2011 Posted November 1, 2011 Yes, but doesn't Yoda say in Episode I, which is the highest level canon, that there are only ever two? (Just like Artanis quoted). So the Rule of Two wasn't invented in 2006, that's just when Darth Bane's creation of it was fleshed out. I do agree that it isn't being retconned, though. I read in one movie-tied publication or another something about Sidious not being happy with all of the people Dooku was training to somewhat use the force, like Ventress, Grevious, and now Savage I suppose. So it isn't like the Rule of Two couldn't technically be broken if someone didn't adhere to it, but Sidious clearly does, or else he would've kept Dooku around and still trained Anakin. Quote
Mikeosaurus Posted November 1, 2011 Posted November 1, 2011 Besides the question of whether their training is canon or not(I believe not!)- these dark "acolytes" seem like totally unnecessary characters. Savage Oppress is basically Ventress with pants from what I've seen. Same anger-driven personality, same aggressive fighting style. There are a lot of clones in this show, but not all of 'em come from Kamino! Quote
Oky Posted November 1, 2011 Posted November 1, 2011 Oh, and the whole Dathomir, Savage Opress, Darth Maul and Ventress plot is the second worst thing they've done in my opinion. That's far worse than Mortis and Mandos. How so? I actually thought those were some of the best episodes of the third season, aside from the season opener of course. Sure, it was kind of a pointless arc as it didn't really go anywhere and is now taking a rather distasteful direction with the resurrection of Maul, but at least it had some interesting fight scenes, which was very redeeming in a season otherwise filled with mortis, mandos, senators, and other annoyances. Quote
KisKatona Posted November 2, 2011 Posted November 2, 2011 I didn't even know we had an emote for that... Quote
DarthSion Posted November 2, 2011 Posted November 2, 2011 Started out so good, been dying to see that new dual wield dual blade Jedi, then turns out he is a bigger tool then michael bay. I have a question as I quickly looked over things, are people in this thread complaining that the story which has Sith which last I checked where evil are not following the rule of 2. Quote
Brickadeer Posted November 2, 2011 Posted November 2, 2011 Did anyone recognize these new fighters that were escorting the gunships bzw.? Quote
Darth Nihilus Posted November 2, 2011 Posted November 2, 2011 Did anyone recognize these new fighters that were escorting the gunships bzw.? They're Z-85 Headhunters. Prototypes of the Z-95 Headhunter, which in turn is a prototype of an X-Wing. Kind of makes no sense to make a prototype of a prototype, but whatever. Hope I helped clear that up. Quote
Brickdoctor Posted November 2, 2011 Posted November 2, 2011 They're Z-85 Headhunters. Prototypes of the Z-95 Headhunter, which in turn is a prototype of an X-Wing. Kind of makes no sense to make a prototype of a prototype, but whatever. Hope I helped clear that up. The Z-95 was not a prototype, simply the predecessor. It was widely used by a number of factions, and the Z-95 is still being deployed in some of the post-Jedi books, despite being inferior to the T-65 and its successors. Quote
Darth Nihilus Posted November 2, 2011 Posted November 2, 2011 The Z-95 was not a prototype, simply the predecessor. It was widely used by a number of factions, and the Z-95 is still being deployed in some of the post-Jedi books, despite being inferior to the T-65 and its successors. Oh, sorry. I must have had the wrong references. Anyway, I think that they should have just gone and used the Z-95 instead of making a whole new ship. This 'create-a-new-ship-in-TCW thing is really ticking me off. Quote
Brickdoctor Posted November 2, 2011 Posted November 2, 2011 Oh, sorry. I must have had the wrong references. Anyway, I think that they should have just gone and used the Z-95 instead of making a whole new ship. This 'create-a-new-ship-in-TCW thing is really ticking me off. Agreed. The Z-95 is almost a classic. (and it certainly is where the EU is concerned) It would've been a nice addition to CW, instead of a new ship that really isn't that different. Quote
Darth Nihilus Posted November 3, 2011 Posted November 3, 2011 So, Commander Neyo, have you got any info on the next episode? Seems kind of wierd that it's tomorrow and you haven't given us a preview at least. Quote
Mr Man Posted November 3, 2011 Posted November 3, 2011 I've just re-watched the Battle of Kamino arc and there's ARC 170's in that, so why do they even need Z-85/Z-95's? Quote
DarthSion Posted November 3, 2011 Posted November 3, 2011 I've just re-watched the Battle of Kamino arc and there's ARC 170's in that, so why do they even need Z-85/Z-95's? Cost?, maybe they already had some 95 not in use, probably be more access to the 95s, its TV its no worse than ships falling in a vacuum. Quote
Darth Nihilus Posted November 3, 2011 Posted November 3, 2011 I've just re-watched the Battle of Kamino arc and there's ARC 170's in that, so why do they even need Z-85/Z-95's? Z-85s are more maneuverable, since they are one-man-one-astromech vehicles. They don't have the amount of bulk that the ARCs have. The ARC-170s were probably up in space blasting the Seppies' behinds for them. The Z-85s can't really blast Seppie behind like ARC-170s can, so they escorted the gunships. I think that that's probably the reason. Quote
Mr Man Posted November 3, 2011 Posted November 3, 2011 Z-85s are more maneuverable, since they are one-man-one-astromech vehicles. They don't have the amount of bulk that the ARCs have. The ARC-170s were probably up in space blasting the Seppies' behinds for them. The Z-85s can't really blast Seppie behind like ARC-170s can, so they escorted the gunships. I think that that's probably the reason. Well they should have used V-19's as escorts for the gunships instead of inventing the Z-85, if they really had to use a 'new' ship it should have been the Z-95. (New as in not being in the show before). Quote
commanderneyo Posted November 3, 2011 Posted November 3, 2011 So, Commander Neyo, have you got any info on the next episode? Seems kind of wierd that it's tomorrow and you haven't given us a preview at least. Oh, is it my job to give you lot everything? Just joking... Anyway, here are a couple of previews: http://www.starwars.com/explore/the-clone-wars/ep408/ It also seems likely this could the first episode in the arc that a "named" Clone dies, but that's just my theory. Quote
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