Does anybody have the ball joint part of the Technic Steering element?

[SNIPE]

does anybody have the ball joint part (NOT he center part) of this par:

http://www.bricklink.com/catalogItem.asp?P=techstr02

does anybody have the ball joint part (NOT he center part) of this part:

http://www.bricklink.com/catalogItem.asp?P=x873c01

or does anybody have both of these?

i mean have the part only or have it separated from the other bit of it, its the yellow bit i am after in the second link and the similar looking part in the first link(there is only one part in the first link anyway))

Edited April 24, 2011 by Siegfried

[Ape Fight]

does anybody have the ball joint part (NOT he center part) of this par:

i mean have the part only or have it separated from the other bit of it, its the yellow bit i am after in the second link and the similar looking part in the first link(there is only one part in the first link anyway))

I have the second one - they come with the LEGO (not Technic) large Ferrari F1 car set

[SNIPE]

I have the second one - they come with the LEGO (not Technic) large Ferrari F1 car set

do the universal joints fit through the middle of only the outer bit? (this is the yellow bit in my image but yours will be black from the f1. car)

Edited April 23, 2011 by SNIPE

[Ape Fight]

do the universal joints fit through the middle of only the outer bit? (this is the yellow bit in my image but yours will be black from the f1. car)

I don't think so, it's a pin-type connecter which tends to be a bit smaller than a UJ. However, I can check for certain in about week (I don't have the peices on me at the moment), unless anyone else has them to hand...?

[SNIPE]

I don't think so, it's a pin-type connecter which tends to be a bit smaller than a UJ. However, I can check for certain in about week (I don't have the peices on me at the moment), unless anyone else has them to hand...?

ill wait and check for certain but if anybody else can help then that will be cool.

Edited April 23, 2011 by SNIPE

[DLuders]

@ SNIPE: In my basement, I just grabbed the second Technic Steering element (x873c01) that you listed (and which is pictured below). No, a Universal Joint does not fit through it. As Ape Fight noted, the black end facing to the left can hold the SHORT END of a 32002 3/4 Technic Pin before it cannot go any further. The other (right) black end can accept 1/2 of the HUB of a 62520 3L Universal Joint before it too cannot go any deeper.

I don't have the first, RC-style Technic Steering element you listed.

[SNIPE]

did you use only the yellow bit to put the universal joint through? (this means taking out the 3 studded wheel center bit.

Edited April 23, 2011 by SNIPE

[DLuders]

@ SNIPE: Yes, one-half of the HUB of the Universal Joint spins freely inside the depressed "cup" of the right part of the Technic Steering element pictured above. When I say 1/2 of the "hub", I mean 1/2 of the portion of the Universal Joint that looks like a regular Technic Bush:

ADDITIONAL NOTE: There is no way to pass an axle completely through the center of the Technic Steering element to connect to the Universal Joint end that is inside the central "cup" of the right end of the black portion.

Edited April 23, 2011 by DLuders

[SNIPE]

i don't suppose this will be any better

http://www.bricklink.com/catalogItem.asp?P=9244a

did you DEFINITELY disassemble the two parts of this: http://www.bricklink.com/PL/x873c01.gif

and use only the outer parts for the ball joints, the part with the three pins for the wheel is NOT getting used at all only the outer spindle that has the ball joints on is getting used so i can put the UV joint through that larger hole.

i am not using the central cup or any of the black portion because it is disconnected from the yellow bit

Edited April 23, 2011 by SNIPE

[DLuders]

@ SNIPE: I don't have any 9244a "Technic, Universal Joint, Old Style" parts on hand, but I would imagine that they would work just as well as the Light Bluish Grey 3L and 4L Technic Universal Joints noted above.

Again in my basement, I looked at the two different pieces that comprise the Technic Steering element. The yellow part does not separate easily from the black part, but I could see that a Universal Joint could fit in the central hole of the yellow part. You may have to DRILL OUT or CUT OFF the black part to separate the pieces. I did not feel like destroying one of my Technic Steering elements, so YOU will have to do it.

Edited April 23, 2011 by DLuders

[SNIPE]

that's why i asked here originally if somebody already had the part (which was separated) but i guess it was misread or badly explained.

i have the part already from the lego Ferrari sets but i don't want to break the part because its part of a set and maybe it will get sold one day also, plus my parents wont like me doing this.

i can't find the separate part itself for sale, maybe you can help with that

if would be kind of pointless buying the assembled part then breaking the middle bit plus the UV joint may still not fit in, and just having one of these parts is not that useful, you need 4 of them really, for a car or something.

Edited April 23, 2011 by SNIPE

[DLuders]

@ SNIPE: No, the 4-ball-joint Lego Technic Steering arm is not sold separately, but perhaps there are other Technic Steering elements that you COULD get that would do what you want to do.

Edited April 23, 2011 by DLuders

[SNIPE]

@ SNIPE: No, the 4-ball-joint Lego Technic Steering arm is not sold separately, but perhaps there are other Technic Steering elements that you COULD get that would do what you want to do.

there is none except for the one from the RC car unfortuletley

even that needs to be drilled out

it looks like i will have to look on the internet for the right part or buy the whole assembly

Edited April 23, 2011 by SNIPE

[Brickend]

DLuders - You have the patience of a saint.

[Siegfried]

SNIPE Please don't make such vague and mostly useless topic titles. It's really annoying to the other members.

DLuders - You have the patience of a saint.

Yeah. He's a huge help to this forum.

[allanp]

I don't think Snipe has been vauge at all, he can't help it if Dluders keeps anwsering questions nobody asked .

Only joking, I know Dluders tries to help the community every chance he gets for which we should all be very grateful .

Anywho, from what I can tell it won't work.

I haven't tried it for real, but the UJ is slightly bigger than the hole as it is in ML cad which is usually pretty accurate with these things. Secondly even if it did fit, in order for the centre of the joint to properly line up with the steering axis, the UJ is prevented from bending by the sides of the hole.

Hope this helps.

Edited April 25, 2011 by allanp

[Siegfried]

I don't think Snipe has been vauge at all

Not now; the topic title used to be something like "Need Help". I renamed it.

[SNIPE]

Not now; the topic title used to be something like "Need Help". I renamed it.

if it did fit i could use 4L or 3L joints joints or mix and match one half of the joint for a 3L and the other end can be a 4L since you can un-clip the UV joints or buy them as a separate part. or i could use the old type UV joints

also ,how much the UV joint is pushed into the spindle will make an effect.

Edited May 7, 2011 by SNIPE