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If she is scum, there is also always the possibility that she is not using it all the time to throw is off. Or maybe she didn't get actions in on time slept through the night and got up too late to use her action.

I don't think so. I mean, I don't think the commies would waste their night actions having no proof that we know when they don't use it. I agree it would be a good tactic if they know someone would observe them, if they had a rat in a groop of organized townies. But I hope James hasn't told anyone about his plans to block Dolores, have you?

And even if they somehow found out, since we already knew Dolores had an action, I think not using it would have drawn more attention then actually using it.

And I think def is far too much All-star to forget using his actions. :wink:

For now I would vote for Garrison, but I will give him a chance to defend himself again and let others bring up some evidence against someone else.

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I don't think so. I mean, I don't think the commies would waste their night actions having no proof that we know when they don't use it. I agree it would be a good tactic if they know someone would observe them, if they had a rat in a groop of organized townies. But I hope James hasn't told anyone about his plans to block Dolores, have you?

And even if they somehow found out, since we already knew Dolores had an action, I think not using it would have drawn more attention then actually using it.

And I think def is far too much All-star to forget using his actions. :wink:

Hmm... good point.

I guess for now, we wait for Captain Garrison to speak up.

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When I talked to Dolores, not letting on that I had blocked her, I asked if she had investigated anyone since we had last talked the day of the vote. She then said that General Stanley's telling everyone they could use night actions after chapter breaks didn't apply to her. That sounds like a lie to me to cover up the fact that she is not our investigator. I had been suspicious of her before, but this pushed her to the top of my suspect list.

Please don't make stuff up about me. I told you I used my night action at night, not at chapter breaks. Some chapter breaks are in the day, some are at night. I use mine only on the night breaks. Here's a massive hint about why that is: they're called night actions, not chapter actions.

I have used mine every night, except the night I was blocked.

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He's a killer, and Stevie seems very convinced Ralph is innocent, and his reasoning for doing it is fair.

I am? Are you sure you don't mean sis, or am I forgetting soemthing?

In any case, I vote: Captain Garrisson/Lord Arjay as well. It seems the most logical choice.

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I am? Are you sure you don't mean sis, or am I forgetting soemthing?

In any case, I vote: Captain Garrisson/Lord Arjay as well. It seems the most logical choice.

Yea, sorry. All you kids look alike. :blush: You both have those vacant smiles. :laugh:

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Please don't make stuff up about me. I told you I used my night action at night, not at chapter breaks. Some chapter breaks are in the day, some are at night. I use mine only on the night breaks. Here's a massive hint about why that is: they're called night actions, not chapter actions.

I have used mine every night, except the night I was blocked.

That does seem to make sense, though for all I know you could be just trying to take advantage of someone who's been daydreaming and has yet to fully grasp this crisis.

In any case, I don't think Dolores is our top suspect, but I'll wait for Captain Garrison to have his say before I make a decision.

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For now I would vote for Garrison, but I will give him a chance to defend himself again

but I'll wait for Captain Garrison to have his say before I make a decision.

That's nice and all, but I really don't have any clue what you expect me to say. I'm being accused mainly because I'm a killer... which is entirely true. I'm damn loyal to this country, and have spent the better part of my adult life serving it. General Stanley had excluded me from suffering the consequences of X-K2P, so what reason did I have for kicking him down and allowing you to escape, risking my neck? I made a bloody foolish decision and went against my superior, because I never truly believed in the plan and that I felt the loyal Americans among you deserved better. Oh, and he had clearly gone bonkers - but that's another matter. I hope you won't make me regret my choice.

Are you just going to throw away all the investigating that has been done and go for the vigilante instead? What then, was the point of all that searching, have you not got anywhere with it?

Furthermore, even if you wrongfully believe that I am a commie - I suggest you look at this:

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It has already been agreed upon that the attempt on Bradford's life was a communist's fault. I was not here at the time, so it cannot have been me. Valerie was accidently hit, so it cannot have been her. The other known communist (Chief Phelps) is seen here behind the mayor. There's no possible way he could have thrown it. Therefore there must have been another communist among the original group.

I have a bit of a headache right now, so I'll arrive at a conclusion on who I think is most likely a communist in a while... provided someone hasn't pushed me overboard or a sudden bandwagon without thought hasn't formed against me by that time. :sceptic:

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Please don't make stuff up about me. I told you I used my night action at night, not at chapter breaks. Some chapter breaks are in the day, some are at night. I use mine only on the night breaks. Here's a massive hint about why that is: they're called night actions, not chapter actions.

I have used mine every night, except the night I was blocked.

That's make sence, except for the fact that Stanley ket us use them at the end of every chapter few hours. As such, you would effectively be giving the commie the advantage.

That said, what do you mean, chapter? Are there more people reading books here than I thought?

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That's make sence, except for the fact that Stanley ket us use them at the end of every chapter few hours. As such, you would effectively be giving the commie the advantage.

That said, what do you mean, chapter? Are there more people reading books here than I thought?

Okay, if I may chip in, maybe you can use your creepy watching action every few hours or whatever, but Dolores can only use her action at night, you know? Like how that makes perfect sense given it's nature?

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That's nice and all, but I really don't have any clue what you expect me to say. I'm being accused mainly because I'm a killer... which is entirely true. I'm damn loyal to this country, and have spent the better part of my adult life serving it. General Stanley had excluded me from suffering the consequences of X-K2P, so what reason did I have for kicking him down and allowing you to escape, risking my neck? I made a bloody foolish decision and went against my superior, because I never truly believed in the plan and that I felt the loyal Americans among you deserved better. Oh, and he had clearly gone bonkers - but that's another matter. I hope you won't make me regret my choice.

Are you just going to throw away all the investigating that has been done and go for the vigilante instead? What then, was the point of all that searching, have you not got anywhere with it?

Furthermore, even if you wrongfully believe that I am a commie - I suggest you look at this:

It has already been agreed upon that the attempt on Bradford's life was a communist's fault. I was not here at the time, so it cannot have been me. Valerie was accidently hit, so it cannot have been her. The other known communist (Chief Phelps) is seen here behind the mayor. There's no possible way he could have thrown it. Therefore there must have been another communist among the original group.

I have a bit of a headache right now, so I'll arrive at a conclusion on who I think is most likely a communist in a while... provided someone hasn't pushed me overboard or a sudden bandwagon without thought hasn't formed against me by that time. :sceptic:

Yes, there likely is still another communist among our group, but I don't know about you, but we have absolutely no leads as to who that is. Furthermore I'm nearly 100% positive at least one newcomer is a communist, we have a CIA note saying so and I doubt we'd get a bunch of people to help our search no strings attached. Krista's given us no reason to suspect her. You have.

And please, your killing hasn't done us any good at all. :hmpf_bad: Neither has Ralph, but Gloria has been in communication with her, if he'd wanted to kill someone with a night action he would've gone for her. He hasn't, which is pretty vigilante behavior to me.

And maybe you just left Stanley because he would've arrested you too, leaving you and whichever communist is remaining (Possibly more) to rot in jail with Phelps and Valerie. So you decided to keep us on this boat and pick us off one by one.

Our boat's motionless, the army is surely going to reach us soon, we're out of options.

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Okay, if I may chip in, maybe you can use your creepy watching action every few hours or whatever, but Dolores can only use her action at night, you know? Like how that makes perfect sense given it's nature?

Except my action was originally only for night too, I was allowed to change that along with everyone else when Stanley gave the order. So i don't see why she didn't help out the town and follow suite.

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Please don't make stuff up about me. I told you I used my night action at night, not at chapter breaks. Some chapter breaks are in the day, some are at night. I use mine only on the night breaks. Here's a massive hint about why that is: they're called night actions, not chapter actions.

Yes but General Stanley clearly stated "At the end of each chapter, you will each be able to use your night action."

I'm not makin' anythin' up. When I reminded you of the General's statement, you told me that god specifically told you that you couldn't use your abilities at the end of chapters. If you'd like me to quote you word for word, I can.

There's still some other facts that need clearin' up. Your testimony in the Laura Jefferson case is fishy as well. The time period between when you said heard the argument and when she fell off the building isn't enough time for her to have gotten up there. Especially since the rope that was found up there makes it seem she didn't go up there freely. I'd also like to be told again when you met Patrick. Was it before or after Laura's death? We know that you worked for another senator at the same time Patrick was in Washington. And that you were even here in town lookin' for him when you witnessed the murder.

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Well now, this night action business of Dolores' does sound fishy...

...and on the other hand Captain Garrison does seem to make sense, but if one of the newcomers is a Communist and we decide to vote for one of them, I think I'd choose to vote him over Krista because he claims to have a lethal action. If he's a Communist killer and we vote him out, then we get rid of a Communist killer. And as someone has mentioned before, if he's a vigilante and we vote him out, we get rid of a chance of accidentally killing one of our own and make it easier to try to figure out which of the remaining people is the real Communist killer.

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That's make sence, except for the fact that Stanley ket us use them at the end of every chapter few hours. As such, you would effectively be giving the commie the advantage.

That said, what do you mean, chapter? Are there more people reading books here than I thought?

If you really don't know, then what's a night action :look:

I know what I was told by god Stanley, and I've been 100% consistent about it.

Yes but General Stanley clearly stated "At the end of each chapter, you will each be able to use your night action."

I'm not makin' anythin' up. When I reminded you of the General's statement, you told me that god specifically told you that you couldn't use your abilities at the end of chapters. If you'd like me to quote you word for word, I can..

Go for it. I double checked it. I'm right, you're wrong.

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It has already been agreed upon that the attempt on Bradford's life was a communist's fault. I was not here at the time, so it cannot have been me. Valerie was accidently hit, so it cannot have been her. The other known communist (Chief Phelps) is seen here behind the mayor. There's no possible way he could have thrown it. Therefore there must have been another communist among the original group.

I have a bit of a headache right now, so I'll arrive at a conclusion on who I think is most likely a communist in a while... provided someone hasn't pushed me overboard or a sudden bandwagon without thought hasn't formed against me by that time. :sceptic:

Chief Phelps could've thrown the knife, which inadvertently stabbed Valerie. We then voted out Chief Phelps at the end of the third (?) day, and you arrived the morning after. Need I remined all of you that there were no kills that night, save for the death of that NPC solider.

And concerning Dolly. Please try to remember a lot has happened recently, with this whole crisis likely meaning she can't throughly read everything. It's possible she missed the change in the commotion.

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Chief Phelps could've thrown the knife, which inadvertently stabbed Valerie. We then voted out Chief Phelps at the end of the third (?) day, and you arrived the morning after. Need I remined all of you that there were no kills that night, save for the death of that NPC solider.

And concerning Dolly. Please try to remember a lot has happened recently, with this whole crisis likely meaning she can't throughly read everything. It's possible she missed the change in the commotion.

Right, I have completely forgotten about that. I think that's a pretty good argument, and I think I now have enough reasons to vote: Garrison/Arjay.

Pkease, feel free and post your suspect list nevertheless. I'm looking forward to it.

And about Dolores: we shall not forget that Phelps was the first one to vote for her, starting a voting bandwagon that almost killed her, and then Dolores was the first one to vote for him, creating a bandwagon that finally killed Phelps. I don't think commies would kill each other like that. It's absurd. :wacko:

By the way, James, you're working hard to get Dolores killed. You seem like you are trying to save Garrison from getting voted off.

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Go for it. I double checked it. I'm right, you're wrong.

Here we go. I'll put it in context with my previous statement to you:

Um, at the beginning of Chapter Nine, all those with night actions were told by General Stanley that they could use their abilities at the end of chapters as well...

And you replied:

Fair enough, but Bob told me specifically that my abilities were not used at chapters end, but at a days end. That's what I'm going by...

How is that different from what I've been saying?

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Here we go. I'll put it in context with my previous statement to you:

And you replied:

How is that different from what I've been saying?

Honestly, I never read the part about all chapters becoming 'night actions' two months ago, and didn't pay much attention to your question. If you reread that whole line of questioning, you'll see I wasn't paying attention, and answered honestly.

How is that different from what I've been saying? :hmpf:

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If now you wanna say you just weren't payin' attention that's one thing. And I'll admit you said the same in a message before the ones I quoted. But just a while ago your defense was gettin' all smart-alecky about what the words "night action" mean. Most people, when reminded of what the general said like I reminded you, might have actually gone back and reread it, said somethin' like "oops" and moved on from there. You just kept insistin' that it didn't apply to you.

If you are bein' completely honest with us and you were our investigator, heaven help us. How many more results might we have gotten?

Not much of a point to this argument anyway considerin' no one seems to be payin' attention to it besides us. Everyone seems more focused on our pair of claimed vigilantes. I can't blame them, I just have nothin' to add to that argument not havin' had any interactions with the pair of them.

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If now you wanna say you just weren't payin' attention that's one thing. And I'll admit you said the same in a message before the ones I quoted. But just a while ago your defense was gettin' all smart-alecky about what the words "night action" mean. Most people, when reminded of what the general said like I reminded you, might have actually gone back and reread it, said somethin' like "oops" and moved on from there. You just kept insistin' that it didn't apply to you.

If you are bein' completely honest with us and you were our investigator, heaven help us. How many more results might we have gotten?

One or two?

Oops. I've been submitting night actions at night. I wasn't being smart-alecky, I just didn't see what you were getting at at first.

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One or two?

Oops. I've been submitting night actions at night. I wasn't being smart-alecky, I just didn't see what you were getting at at first.

So now the whole solution of all this is you didn't notice you could use your night action also at chapter endings? :hmpf:

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Oh, I'm a protector. I've been rather selfish this entire time, though. I've protected myself every night but for 2. Night/Chapter 3 I protected Harrison, and I didn't get my action in at one night. Oh, and I failed the most recent night, due to being violated by Dolores. But, she did confirm me as town, so I can't blame her. :blush:

Wait. You're not the protector that I blocked. Would we as a town have been given two from the get-go? Can anyone confirm that you're a protector?

Also the night that Ralph tried to kill Dolores was the night I blocked the protector. I've been assumin' that the reason the attempt on her life failed was because she was protected. When I still believed Dolores, I thought that she must have been protected by a townie so the one I blocked that same night was a commie. I even voiced my concerns about this to the mayor and Gloria since the protector knew it was me that blocked him. Thought for sure I was toast come nightfall. But nothin' came of it. If he's a commie, why am I still alive? I would think knowin' who a blocker was would trump tryin' to kill seemingly random people who didn't contribute much.

Just puttin' these thoughts out there since it won't be long 'til the general catches up with us.

I would be interested, too, in what the mayor has to say since I know I wasn't the only one he ever conversed with.

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Wait. You're not the protector that I blocked. Would we as a town have been given two from the get-go? Can anyone confirm that you're a protector?

Also the night that Ralph tried to kill Dolores was the night I blocked the protector. I've been assumin' that the reason the attempt on her life failed was because she was protected. When I still believed Dolores, I thought that she must have been protected by a townie so the one I blocked that same night was a commie. I even voiced my concerns about this to the mayor and Gloria since the protector knew it was me that blocked him. Thought for sure I was toast come nightfall. But nothin' came of it. If he's a commie, why am I still alive? I would think knowin' who a blocker was would trump tryin' to kill seemingly random people who didn't contribute much.

I'd think there may be 2 protectors, it seems fairly likely. But yes, a commie protector is likely as well.

No, unless Dolores has some sort of night-action revealing ability in addition to her bloocking/investigating, I don't think anyone can confirm me. Well, I mentioned it to Stevie in one of our conversations earlier, but that's about it.

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I think that the commie killer is Captain Garrison. All the evidence points toward him. I'm sure as Hell no communist, so...

Vote: Captain Garrison/Lord Arjay

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I do believe his argument for not being the communist killer is now flawed. Vote: Captain Garrison/Lord Arjay. (I meant to vote earlier, but I got distracted by trying to remember what happened on the various days. :grin: )

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