3677 Red Freight Train

[lightningtiger]

This new train certainly looks great, but why to spend money, lots of money, to design and produce a new train when you already have a nice 7939.

It's simply too early because the 7939 has been in the stores for only a year, and I don't think people would want a new train that often.

And, how are things going for now, the Maersk train is going to be a success, so the 3677 would be a total waste of money for the Lego company.

Ah, but remember 10219 is a S@H/Lego branded stores exclusive and 3677 will be available in more places than that.....who and where, plus when are the questions that need answering.

Brick On !

[Brickviller]

This new train certainly looks great, but why to spend money, lots of money, to design and produce a new train when you already have a nice 7939.

It's simply too early because the 7939 has been in the stores for only a year, and I don't think people would want a new train that often.

And, how are things going for now, the Maersk train is going to be a success, so the 3677 would be a total waste of money for the Lego company.

I don't think that's the right point of view, The 7939 has sold extremely well in my country. And even big toy shops have many of them for a discounted price. During the holiday season they sold loads and loads of this train. What I mean is that people don't need two of the smae train, but do want to have another train to go with the previous one.

And even IF the Maersk train would be a great succes not every parent will buy one because:

1. It will not be avaliable at regular toy shops

2. high price

3. You need to buy a motor battery pack and so on (also not avaliable in regular shops)

4. It doesn't has a good playability compared to 7939 or the new one

This means that I understand why Lego makes another train and hopes to sell these as well as the previous one.

[Mrlegoninja]

I don't think that's the right point of view, The 7939 has sold extremely well in my country. And even big toy shops have many of them for a discounted price. During the holiday season they sold loads and loads of this train. What I mean is that people don't need two of the smae train, but do want to have another train to go with the previous one.

And even IF the Maersk train would be a great succes not every parent will buy one because:

1. It will not be avaliable at regular toy shops

2. high price

3. You need to buy a motor battery pack and so on (also not avaliable in regular shops)

4. It doesn't has a good playability compared to 7939 or the new one

This means that I understand why Lego makes another train and hopes to sell these as well as the previous one.

I agree. This train serves as an alternative to the Maesrk train and will probably be cheaper, for all those parents who have kids that are for playing instead of structure.

[lightningtiger]

I have received an email from Lego and part of it reads......

'I am afraid we don't have a sales price for this product yet, we will probably have a more specific idea as we approach the launch date. The price is only guideline and will apply on our website only. Retailers will have their own price.'

I say totally confirmed now, but the question still is when, where and how much ?

We can only wait....maybe a Lego Ambassador might be able to help us here ?

Anyway, keep on waiting !

[Kridge]

This new cargo train doesn't looks so bad... I like the red diesel engine. The whole train looks good :)

[peterab]

I agree. This train serves as an alternative to the Maesrk train and will probably be cheaper, for all those parents who have kids that are for playing instead of structure.

It might not be cheaper, since it will be motorized with PF gear and include track while the Maersk train won't. I don't think that will mean it won't sell, the current trains have sold well, and I think a new train has a better chance of more sales than continuing the old one. As long as the greater sales cover the initial fixed costs of the design Lego wins.

[Jay Sathe]

Sorry to re-boot this, but grogall posted Toys 'R' Us' Spring 2011 reatil guide, and the 3677 train is not on there, however the 7939 is marked with a "CF" in the availability column. I don't knwo what this means, but it is not the "Full Year" that others have.

[peterab]

it is not the "Full Year" that others have.

I'm pretty sure someone reported earlier that the Yellow Cargo train doesn't appear in a European second half dealer catalog, though the passenger train does. No trains appear in the current Australian dealer catalog that I scored at the Melbourne toy fair, but only fairly new stuff seems to be in it. I'm guessing stocks of the Yellow train will be allowed to naturally run down for the rest of the year and we'll see the red one before Christmas.

[lightningtiger]

I have been told that 3677 ISN'T on the independent retailers buying sheet....though that doesn't mean it's not a surprise release.....I am starting to think that this may go exclusive first and then released to everyone else.

Just my two cents worth.

[mrblue]

in my opinion this new train doesn't deserve to be an exclusive set at all!

ok, it's not bad, but still lacks of that "wow" factor that we are used to have from lego 5 digits set numbers.

as someone pointed out, it may be a toy chain exclusive, but then again no reason to stop the production of the old cargo train.

imho it will just be a new cargo train available everywhere at a slightly cheaper price, let's say 30€/$ less.

as a hint, lego should start again to produce engines and wagons sold separately like in the old 12v gold times!

anyway, time will tell

have a nice lego day

mdBlue

Edited March 27, 2011 by mrblue

[LegoCityFanatic]

Hope im posting rigth now.

I found this train at LW 2011 between LEGO's own City.

http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/eiker86/Sets/img_0342.jpg

im uploading more photos of the train and cars

car 1

car 2

utilyti vehicle to car 2

car 3 and car 2

Whole train

Ballast Loader

sorry if i should have posted this another place, didnt find any topic that fit in Train Tech

THIS IS NOT A MOC. This set is really coming out sometime in August by the name of "Freight Train" I too thought it was too soon for another train set so I will not buy it this year.

[lightningtiger]

THIS IS NOT A MOC. This set is really coming out sometime in August by the name of "Freight Train" I too thought it was too soon for another train set so I will not buy it this year.

Er, pardon me saying that we already know it's not a MOC by oh, lets say over a month or two !

Do we have any more information, it's like a burst of and then.....nothing !

Well time to send another email to Lego and see if I get the same dumb answer as last time !

I'll let everyone know what they say !

[vgsprites]

Er, pardon me saying that we already know it's not a MOC by oh, lets say over a month or two !

Do we have any more information, it's like a burst of and then.....nothing !

Well time to send another email to Lego and see if I get the same dumb answer as last time !

I'll let everyone know what they say !

Hopefully you'll be able to squeze out some much needed info LT.

Good luck

[Cwetqo]

I have been told that 3677 ISN'T on the independent retailers buying sheet....though that doesn't mean it's not a surprise release.....I am starting to think that this may go exclusive first and then released to everyone else.

Just my two cents worth.

There are two kinds of "exclusive" sets in LEGO world: one are 10XXX sets which are available just in TLG brand shops and over internet (and are usually of higher quality and price then normal sets) and the other one are so called "TRU" sets, which are "normaly detailed and priced sets, but are for marketing reasons (so they can have "limited edition" sticker) available just in selected shops. Those set usually dont appear in general retailers catalogue and are usully "late surprises", like it was with bank and police chase sets this year.

I think that it was already stated that 3677 is another such set and its logical that it dont appear in common reatilers catalogue.

[lightningtiger]

What does anyone make of this......

"We don't have an official date for its launch in Australia I am afraid, it will be sometimes in the summer in the summer."

That was sent to me in an email from Lego not ten minutes ago.

As we say in Australia - clear as the river Yarra ! (that's the main river running though Melbourne)

Brick On.....hopefully with the 3677 in the future !

[peterab]

There are two kinds of "exclusive" sets in LEGO world: one are 10XXX sets which are available just in TLG brand shops and over internet (and are usually of higher quality and price then normal sets) and the other one are so called "TRU" sets, which are "normaly detailed and priced sets, but are for marketing reasons (so they can have "limited edition" sticker) available just in selected shops. Those set usually dont appear in general retailers catalogue and are usully "late surprises", like it was with bank and police chase sets this year.

I think that it was already stated that 3677 is another such set and its logical that it dont appear in common reatilers catalogue.

Or it could just be too early. As LT said Lego Australia don't have a release date yet, so I doubt it will be in any Australian catalog. By the way I think it is a very unsound idea to try and infer anything about international distribution from Australia. We are a very small market, and seen as difficult by TLG. Most of the timing of our releases is different to the rest of the world because of the time shipping takes, this means we either get things earlier or later than other markets. About the only time we see new stuff is if it is revealed in the catalog sent out to Australian Lego Club members in December like happened with Power Miners a couple of years ago.

I've been told by a Lego Certified Professional that this set will be in the normal city line to replace the Yellow Cargo Train. The only way I can see this as being an exclusive is if a retailer is given it as an exclusive for the first six months as happened with the passenger train here in Australia. After that everybody got it.

[lightningtiger]

Lego has just comfirmed it is an EXCLUSIVE set, retailling for $ 289.99 AU.....but they can not say who the retailer is yet, but it is August release world wide !

(Just finished speaking to Lego customer service)

Brick On Everyone !

[pinioncorp]

$290? That's really expensive for what is really a rather underwhelming train. I hope there's a few more bonuses in the box.

[Fuzzylegobricks]

2.90$! It better be REALLY good.

[EverettYA]

I believe he is referring to the Australian price. Based on current S@H prices $290 AUD should be the equivalent of $150 USD. So that puts the train at a cheaper price than the current Cargo Train.

EverettYA

[Rustie86]

That $290 price tag sounds high, but if I recall, TLG tends to jack up the price for Australia... :/

US will probably be about $180-$200, like the old cargo train. If it does turn out to be above $200 in the US, my willingness to buy goes down about 1.5% for every dollar over that limit.

[Fuzzylegobricks]

I believe he is referring to the Australian price. Based on current S@H prices $290 AUD should be the equivalent of $150 USD. So that puts the train at a cheaper price than the current Cargo Train.

EverettYA

Thanks for dumbing it down!

[Brickviller]

It seems there was no new for weeks but I don't know anyone else pointed this out yet but Quélug seems to had this train some time on display.

More pics can be found here

[LEGO Guy Bri]

That $290 price tag sounds high, but if I recall, TLG tends to jack up the price for Australia... :/

US will probably be about $180-$200, like the old cargo train. If it does turn out to be above $200 in the US, my willingness to buy goes down about 1.5% for every dollar over that limit.

I think that might be a little steep for this train. I believe $150 is probably closer in price. I think that might have been one of the reasons for this new PF cargo train. Last years price tag may make it to expensive for adequate product sales. This set has less going on than 7939 anyways. Less pieces = less $$$ (usually)

[roamingstop]

Whatever price; the Locomotive looks nice, and the rear carriage will lend itself to becoming a 10219 MOC. And that windscreen piece might just drive down the prices on BL (if it is similar to 10020 Santa Fe).

And whoever did this, it is a nice design

Edited April 25, 2011 by roamingstudio