Unpredictable changes..

[El Bucanero]

I did some changes on my HMS Unpredictable, I changed the gray deck plates too ''wooden'' deck plates to give it a more realistic look and also lenghten the masts but ehh the rigging is too short now... I added some detail too the deck, like boats, hatches, and an entrance for minifigs to the gundeck.. Unfortunatly I don't have enough tan coloured plates too finish the complete deck, but thats not such a problem, most of the deck is now tan coloured. Maybe I'll change the black slopes above the gunports to normal 2 x 4 black parts, and take the slopes too the railing so you can't see the deck line on the side.

How do ya like it?

the entrance:

the stairs:

Once moderated you can see the Brickshelf gallery here

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Mr Tiber

[Scouty]

Nice. Looks a bit more realistic. In general, the entire ships looks pleasing. Also the mast lengthened looks good to as well. Just in my opinion :).

[Sean]

It definitely looks good, and I'm interested in seeing the folder once it goes public.

[Mister Phes]

The folder is public everybody!!!

Mr Tiber, how did you make the stairs? Is there a brown stair piece or is it constructed from individual pieces?

[El Bucanero]

The stairs are made out of a brown stair piece from this set

I did some changes (again!) and will post them when I have pictures of it..

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Mr Tiber

[Mister Phes]

Ah yes, you've put those stairs to a better use! Excellent work Mr Tiber!

Anyway, what inspired you to make these changes? Is this closer to how you imagined this ship when you began building it? Or did you build it and then decide it wasn't to your liking?

[El Bucanero]

I change the deck because it would look more realistic Have you ever seen a ship with gray deck? Maybe, but most where tan, Aaron Morse frigate inspired me to do it (it has a tan deck), I lengthenth the mast because they looked too short IMO

I changed it even more!!! :-D

The line on the side is now fixed too black

Here is the gallery when public...

Arrr

Mr Tiber

[Aaron Morse]

I change the deck because it would look more realistic Have you ever seen a ship with gray deck? Maybe, but most where tan, Aaron Morse frigate inspired me to do it (it has a tan deck), I lengthenth the mast because they looked too short IMO

I changed it even more!!! :-D

The line on the side is now fixed too black

Here is the gallery when public...

Arrr

Mr Tiber

Hmm yeah I also used the same kind of stairs with same hatch..but I like your hatch color better. Back to BrickLink I go! :)

http://www.brickshelf.com/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi?i=1927646

Aaron

[Mister Phes]

I change the deck because it would look more realistic Have you ever seen a ship with gray deck? Maybe, but most where tan, Aaron Morse frigate inspired me to do it (it has a tan deck)

Depends on the type of wood and how often it is cleaned, or in some cases tarred. Aged wood tends to look gray but if the ship was that old I probably wouldn't want to get on it in the first place!

[Admiral Starwind]

Yeah in most cases the deck would have been tarred at one point o both provide waterproofing and grip in rough seas.

[El Bucanero]

Okay maybe ya're right! But almost all the ships here seem to have a gray or black deck...that seems quite strange to me, since they all started with wood, and why should the top deck be tarred??

[Mister Phes]

Yeah in most cases the deck would have been tarred at one point to both provide waterproofing and grip in rough seas.

Like Admrial Starwind said above, however you probably wouldn't want to go into that much accuracy for a LEGO ship anyway!

[El Bucanero]

I know but why should the top of the top deck been tarred? And ehh after this changes I think I still like the gray deck better.... but I don't have a gray hatch, It will probarly have this deck for a long time...

[Berry Syedow]

I know but why should the top of the top deck been tarred? And ehh after this changes I think I still like the gray deck better.... but I don't have a gray hatch, It will probarly have this deck for a long time...

IMO, the main deck looks good in this color. I googled around for ship decks and came across a wikipedia article. It says that the seams are filled with tar to waterproof the deck (like Admiral Starwind said). It goes on to state that a "yacht or other fancy boat" might have a canvas and a coat of sealant put over the deck. No mention of a completely tarred deck. So, is that mandatory?

[Legeaux]

I favour light grey decks, to represent holystoned timber. White would be a reasonable approximation too.

Tan might represent decks spread with sand, and sand red might be good for that 'post battle' effect, too ;-)

Modern timber decked vessels will typically be varnished in some way, giving a tan colour.

[Admiral Starwind]

The deck of the Starwind will have white decks mostly just cause the second deck of the ship would be seen on the side of the ship so to keep the color theme going i kept the white and then it became mandatory throughout the entire ship.

AS for accuracy no one builds their lego ships here to spec or realism that i can see cause they would have to lose the bottom sail holder, have the sails main boom ie the boom holding the top of the sail tied backwards and down to the deck, there would also be rigging dangling down about 5 feet from the top along the sail in about 1 foot increments to tie up the sail when it was rolled up plus the bottom of the sail again would also be tied backwards and down to the deck or railing area. Now these are all generalization and i'm sure someone can't wait to correct me so fly at er.

[El Bucanero]

Well, she is called the HMS Unpredictable, but forget about the name if you answer the following question: does it looks more like a British or a French frigate too you? I know the french frigates had the fore and main mast at the same heigt, but that can be changed.

Maybe I sound like an idiot right now but...

I am planning on lenghtening her, the size only allows 20 cannons on the beneath deck, and frigates were heavier armed...Tell me yar opinion and answer me question...or be keel hauled, your choice...

[Aaron Morse]

Actually most ships of that era had tar between the seams of the upper deck (black) but the hands would regularly "holystone" the decks to give a more white/tan appearance.

http://www.nmm.ac.uk/server/show/conMediaF...egister/lowhtml

http://www.ussbremerton.org/photogallery/p...holystoning.jpg

http://www.bb62museum.org/images/Hart/holystoning.html

Below is right from Wikipedia:

"Holystone is a soft and brittle sandstone that was formerly used for scouring and whitening the wooden decks of ships. It was used in the British and American Navy for scrubbing the decks of sailing ships (e.g. it was done on the deck of the USS Brandywine before taking General La Fayette home to France[citation needed])."

No gray on my ship boyos, tan all the way! Now back ta work or I'll keelhaul ya!

[Legeaux]

Well, she is called the HMS Unpredictable, but forget about the name if you answer the following question: does it looks more like a British or a French frigate too you? I know the french frigates had the fore and main mast at the same heigt, but that can be changed.

They *often* had fore and main the same height, not always.

As to whether she looks more British or French.... well, so many British frigates started out as French frigates, it's hard to say. ;-)

It wouldn't be too far from the truth to day that the French built the nicest frigates, then overgunned them and undercrewed them, and then they were captured by the British who downgunned them and added a properly trained crew.

Maybe I sound like an idiot right now but...

I am planning on lenghtening her, the size only allows 20 cannons on the beneath deck, and frigates were heavier armed...Tell me yar opinion and answer me question...or be keel hauled, your choice...

Why do you particularly want a frigate? A 20 gun sloop-of-war (or a 20 gun corvette, if you prefer), is not a bad command.

[El Bucanero]

When I finally received the mid pieces from bricklink, I started to break down my BSB(that was a hard time) and started the HMS Unpredictable, supossed to be a 2 deck 44 gun frigate, tried it, and what came out was this I was not really satisfied with it, there was supossed to be another deck on it, but i realised that it would look too bulky, so I started a 1 deck corvette, however the final outcome looks like a light frigate to me and those were mostly 32 or more gun ships. The length doesn't allows more guns, so I may lengthen her...

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Mr Tiber