Brickdoctor Posted July 10, 2011 Posted July 10, 2011 Does Bananakin have anything to say, surely he won the investigation card? I do have to sleep, you know.
Donut Posted July 10, 2011 Posted July 10, 2011 I am glad to see that the discussions were lively while I slept, but I hope to hear opinions from the other townies who have remained silent. Well, what we found out was this: they weren’t wearing a wedding ring, and there was definitely no mark from one. I am a bit confused by this clue. Wedding rings? I didn't know that we could wear wedding rings, wrist rings might be more plausible. It's interesting that your clue mentioned *they* while the rest of the clues simply referred to the scum as *the killer*. Furthermore, first letter of a sentence should be capitalized. I am not trying to correct grammar, but I am simply pointing out the inconsistency of this clue with the rest of them. As I previously started, please check my alliance, I have nothing to hide. As I've said before, if someone doesn't veloce me then throw out another card, get another duplicate clue and then help me vote you off since you perfectly hit the target for the suspect. Jokingly or not, I disagree with this advice. We should not be using anymore witness cards as I believe we have a sufficient amount of clues to work with. Asking someone else to use their card will neither prove your innocence nor Carly's (as you both had the same clue). With that being said, I think you have built a weak case against Carly. 1. Timing - The timing of your contribution came at a point when you were on defense. Compared to the timing of Carly's card play, you move seems to be very selfish. She played the card to help the town find the scum while your motive was to prove your innocence. 2. Veracity - Since both clues are the same, this leads me to trust the clues. Going a step further, I trust Carly a bit more because there is truth in her original words. Furthermore there are 3 different clues out, so the odds are against you to draw the same clue as Carly's. Incidentally, this is also the most relevant clue in separating between you and Carly. It seems to me you're trying to hammer in the fact that she is smiling so therefore she must be the killer. 3. Photo - The photo verification is perhaps the least important clue for me. I am aware Carly is holding something, but that was apparent before she revealed the photo. From the group shots, you can clearly see the members of the town brandishing weapons associated with their profession. So Carly holding a weapon is not something we didn't know about. 4. Quick to vote - From the momentum of where the discussions were going, you could have waited to hear feedback from the other members of the town. Why were you so quick to cast a vote?
Brickdoctor Posted July 10, 2011 Posted July 10, 2011 You guys do realize that the pictures provided for the sake of the story don't mean anything in the game, right? They should only be used as 'evidence' if the host specifically says so.
Jedi master Brick Posted July 10, 2011 Posted July 10, 2011 unVote: Carly/Kartoffelviking for the townies vote: Camanikan/Big Cam looking thourgh Camanikan may of lied by saying the cards are out a to bend evidence
Eskallon Posted July 10, 2011 Posted July 10, 2011 (edited) You guys do realize that the pictures provided for the sake of the story don't mean anything in the game, right? They should only be used as 'evidence' if the host specifically says so. Actually this is a mystery situation and as far as I know, that means we should use the pictures to our advantage. So I am going to vote on a gut feeling with a bit of evidence, the smiling clue would be too obvious for it to be Carley and Carley is a lot more relaxed in the situation so: Vote: Comanikan/ Big Cam Furthermore I trust nothing of what you people say so I am not going to rely on you and instead rely on myself: You probably think this is foolish but on average at this rate we should be using 7 cards a day and if I die tonight I would rather have at least used 1 card. Edited July 10, 2011 by Eskallon
Brickdoctor Posted July 10, 2011 Posted July 10, 2011 Having read over the discussion, I don't really see any reason to save this, therefore I will Investigate: Camanakin Skywalker (Big Cam).
RoryoCox Posted July 10, 2011 Posted July 10, 2011 After visiting and again revisiting this horrendous crime, it is evident that there is enough clues to vote an individual off. This evidence has jumped out at me as I read back through our arguments and conversations and I am clear in my own mind who done this crime. I will certainly be interested in the results of the witness and investigation occurring now and then, if anything changes my mind, I will change my vote. But for now- Vote: Camanikan/Big Cam
Donut Posted July 10, 2011 Posted July 10, 2011 Furthermore I trust nothing of what you people say so I am not going to rely on you and instead rely on myself: Eskipo, your entire post contradicts itself. If you do not trust the clues that have been provided to you, then why are you voting against Camanakin (by the way: you spelled his name wrong). Furthermore, I don't understand why you would use a card provided that Camanakin had already demonstrated there are no more new clues. Great going Bananakin, at least now we'll have some concrete evidence.
Rumble Strike Posted July 10, 2011 Posted July 10, 2011 I am glad to see that the lack of wedding ring further distances me from the henious crime. My wedding ring will never be removed, or my lovely wife would have words to say, and more! I agree with some of our colleagues in this room. I fail to see how being one of the first to examine witnesses and reporting evidence which paints herself in a bad light could be construed as gamesmanship, when there is too much at stake to lose on this first day, when we fear more murders to come. If Carly was a Dark One, at this stage it would be far more likely for her to just try and fly under the radar and not draw attention to herself, which is easiest while we are in a big group like this. I know who I want to vote for, but I will await the witness statement and the results of the investigation before doing so.
Mrlegoninja Posted July 10, 2011 Posted July 10, 2011 Wow! I must of had a hangover, I missed a lot. Based on the clues and narrowing it down, it is either Carly or Camanakin. I too think that it would be suspicious for Carly to reveal the clue that the person was smiling. But, was she lying? She might said that to protect Ram Strut who might be the mafia...
Donut Posted July 10, 2011 Posted July 10, 2011 Based on the clues and narrowing it down, it is either Carly or Camanakin. I too think that it would be suspicious for Carly to reveal the clue that the person was smiling. But, was she lying? Most likely not as Carly and Camanakin received the same clue.
Big Cam Posted July 10, 2011 Posted July 10, 2011 Having read over the discussion, I don't really see any reason to save this, therefore I will Investigate: Camanakin Skywalker (Big Cam). Thank you, this will prove my alliance, guaranteed. I suggest everyone take note of who is voting for me. Since I will be shown a townie, there is a chance, and I admit it's a small chance, that those voting for me are communicating via pm and are ganging up on me. Again, I know it's a long shot, but it's worth keeping in mind.
Mrlegoninja Posted July 10, 2011 Posted July 10, 2011 Most likely not as Carly and Camanakin received the same clue. Though Carly got it first. Both can't be scum, and I think the investigate card will prove if Cam is scum or not.
ADHO15 Posted July 10, 2011 Posted July 10, 2011 I think the investigate card will prove if Cam is scum or not. Not if Camanakin and Bananakin are working together and Bananakin presents false evidence. It is hard to fully trust any evidence we recieve.
MacK Posted July 10, 2011 Posted July 10, 2011 My goodness it seems that we've progressed quite a bit since I left. Assuming that the three clues we've had haven't been tampered with by scum, we seem to have it narrowed down to just two suspects. I also find it interesting that people are voting for Camanakin even though Bananakin is currently awaiting the results of an investigation on him. It does seem a little like people are pressing to get the vote out, even though we could have yet more evidence. I can understand that we are a bit pressed for time, but even if we are tricked by the scum today I'm sure we will ample opportunity later to unravel the mystery. Bananakin when will you get results back from your investigation card?
Eskallon Posted July 10, 2011 Posted July 10, 2011 Having read over the discussion, I don't really see any reason to save this, therefore I will Investigate: Camanakin Skywalker (Big Cam). Good job, hopefully we can find the truth. Eskipo, your entire post contradicts itself. If you do not trust the clues that have been provided to you, then why are you voting against Camanakin (by the way: you spelled his name wrong). Furthermore, I don't understand why you would use a card provided that Camanakin had already demonstrated there are no more new clues. I don't trust camanakin and I stand by that, that is why I used the card, apart from that the rest of your post is absolutly right.
sok117 Posted July 10, 2011 Posted July 10, 2011 Eskipo's behaviour has shifted from logical to downright strange! I still think there is reasonable evidence to vote for Camanikan, even If people voting do have a hidden agenda, I think it is foolish to label everyone as a dark one if the results do not proceed in our favor. I don't know If Carly is guilty, If we know that there are no more clues for today, then we know that her evidence is most likely truth. Next we know that she would not reveal that evidence given that is puts herself under a bad light unless she was confident in her own alliance. Unless she knew we would react this way, in which case she is a devilish little trickster . But I hardly think her able to do that, so I trust her instincts.
Mrlegoninja Posted July 10, 2011 Posted July 10, 2011 Not if Camanakin and Bananakin are working together and Bananakin presents false evidence. It is hard to fully trust any evidence we recieve. Then how can we trust the clues that we have recieved? We have to trust something, even if it doesn't make any sense. Otherwise, we would still be at ground zero.
Donut Posted July 10, 2011 Posted July 10, 2011 Not if Camanakin and Bananakin are working together and Bananakin presents false evidence. It is hard to fully trust any evidence we recieve. Agreed, though I hope no one is talking in private. My goodness it seems that we've progressed quite a bit since I left. Assuming that the three clues we've had haven't been tampered with by scum, we seem to have it narrowed down to just two suspects. I am a bit suspicious of Robanakin as the format of his clue does not match the clues we have seen thus far.
ADHO15 Posted July 10, 2011 Posted July 10, 2011 Then how can we trust the clues that we have recieved? We have to trust something, even if it doesn't make any sense. Otherwise, we would still be at ground zero. Exactly, but I am just advising people not to fully trust everything we hear. We cannot be certain of anything anymore. I just feel suspicious of him, so... Vote: Camanakin Skywalker / Big Cam
MacK Posted July 10, 2011 Posted July 10, 2011 Then how can we trust the clues that we have recieved? We have to trust something, even if it doesn't make any sense. Otherwise, we would still be at ground zero. This is very true at the moment I think we need to trust the clues that we have, and await further developments. It's still day one of our ordeal so unless one of the Dark Ones slips up, we're going to have to vote based on our gut instincts. Perhaps the scum have lied to us today, and led us down the wrong path, but I promise you in the coming days it will only become easier to destroy the Dark Ones as their lies become exposed. I await to see what actions the Dark Ones take tonight, by tomorrow some of the mystery will be lifted. I'm basing my vote off of the evidence that has been presented so far. Frankly I'd rather not vote at all, but since it's mandatory I'm trusting the evidence. I will change my vote if new evidence emerges, but for now. Vote: Carly Vikera(Kartoffelviking)
Professor Flitwick Posted July 10, 2011 Posted July 10, 2011 For the time being, I shall proxy:Bananakin Skywalker; I trust she will do the right thing when her investigation comes through.
Brickdoctor Posted July 10, 2011 Posted July 10, 2011 Results are in: You have investigated Camanakin Skywalker and found him to be a member of The Town. Therefore, unless more info is presentented that changes my mind, I will Vote: Carly Vikera (Kartoffel Viking)
Mrlegoninja Posted July 10, 2011 Posted July 10, 2011 Results are in: Therefore, unless more info is presentented that changes my mind, I will Vote: Carly Vikera (Kartoffel Viking) I guess I will trust these results. I Vote: Carly Vikera (Kartoffel Viking)
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