10179 UCS Falcon Pricing

[adello25]

One thing I noticed about the light bluish grey levers that I used on my 10179 was how tight they fit on the studs. They were actually pretty difficult to remove at times. Did anyone else encounter this?

Mine fit the exact same way! I ordered my 60 from Lego a while back so I just assumed it was that they were brand new never played with. It did become a little annoying at times because I would want them in the perfect place and they were almost impossible to turn

[The_Chosen_1]

Yeah! I got mine directly from Lego also. I'm glad I'm not the only one who had that issue. I nearly bent one of the levers trying to get it off; it was quite a challenge to get them on straight the first time.

[Fuppylodders]

Woah! How I didn't see this thread....

I recently done the same...

What are these 60 light bluish grey levers?

When I did my MF list on BL it added up to about £900+ and I hadnt even finished adding parts... How on earth are you guys able to figure out the list to come to roughly 500 euros without actually placing the order while having the orders in separate places from BL?

I also do multiple lists. One is the wanted list with all parts, one is empty. Once I have received the parts, I move the parts that are actually ordered and on their way to me, into the second list, so the parts are not deleted, just moved. Takes a while but I feel safe knowing I have the list still in place should i need to reorder anything ^_^

I was unable to get this awesome set due to not being back into lego at the time (let alone having the money available)... Now that I am, I realised what I missed out and to fork out hundreds more is my only option atm :(

I am quite familiar with BL so if anyone is able to help me in understanding how to get the price down to 500 without having actually made all them seperate orders, please let me know!

quoting Blondie-wan:

*I've never really gotten how "collectible" has somehow become synonymous with "rare." Something common can still be collected - indeed, it can be collected even more. The fact that something might be plentiful doesn't mean it can't be collectible (I do of course recognize not everyone will agree).*

This^^^^^ Totally this^^^^^

The whole UCS is in definition, an item that is THE ultimate lego item to own from that theme, should you have an interest in that theme. It is nothing to do with rareness or guaranteed non

re-release at a future date. It is just a name stating it is a *must have* if you like that theme. Lego is designed and produced to be enjoyed, not to be bought and resold... that is just a by-product of peoples... greediness/desire to make money an easy way to fund further lego funds or w/e reason... You buy it, at RISK. Knowing Lego's history at re-releasing sets. If they do, you buy it knowing the price you intend to sell it, will drop. There is no one to blame but yourself. If you want to make money from selling that won't incur a price drop, invent something yourself that will hold its price because you *solely* hold the design patent for it. It is these reasons imo, that cloud peoples judgement.

Why does there have to be a reason for people to say 'it should/shouldn't be released'?

Lego is a community. Why feel it is correct to exclude people from parts of it just because you are older/better off financially than the less fortunate?

At the end of the day if there is a demand high enough, there is nothing injustifiable in supplying that demand.

Edited January 20, 2012 by Fuppylodders

[Oxus]

^ Bravo, We all have enough passion to spend our time on a lego forum, yet many of us missed out on the small release window of one of the best ever lego sets. We shouldn't be punished and have to charge 3x what it was originally priced.

[fyrmedhatt]

This has been said before on this thread, but the pricing of the Falcon now is just supply and demand, if people sold their falcons for cheap, then we would just see whoever bought those sets sell them again for market price.

Price gouging can happen with Lego, but typically with high demand parts like those found in the Falcon. This would happen if one seller bought out other sellers stock of said high demand part and created a monopoly where they can charge whatever they want. I have seen this happen on Bricklink.

As for lego, I doubt they are too concerned with the resellers as the resellers say that they are, the fraction of the market cornered by the resellers is tiny compared to casual and regular Afol buyers who think the value of their sets is neat, but they are not going to be upset if Lego gives other people the chance to buy a great set at the expense of a temporary dip in value.

Lego would re-release or redesign the Millennium Falcon if or when it makes financial sense to them. When that will be no-one knows, but the re-release probably won't be identical to the old set as Lego's parts palette constantly changes and by twisting the design they would encourage buyers of the previous UCS MF to buy the new set as well.

[Appswasere]

The best way I found to get those levers on correctly was to pull it out of the base peice and put something in the slot to manoeuvre it to where you want it then put it back together!

[jasonsmith]

Anyone have any pics of what they built already? Would be nice to see..

I agree, it would be cool to see what people have done, especially those that went off color or changed things up a bit to keep the cost down.

[AvengerDr]

I agree, it would be cool to see what people have done, especially those that went off color or changed things up a bit to keep the cost down.

I'm planning to have a "blog coverage" of this gargantuan project. I'm still waiting to receive the first shipment of the rare pieces from TLG directly. I'm not really sure if I can start to build something straight away. Maybe the technics frame if there is one (I have not yet had a look at the instructions). Once I do I'll let you know.

[parkerwilson]

Just received my big order from TLG. Have about 1000 common pieces left to acquire, plus those 60 levers. I am currently at around $630 including purchasing a manual. I still need to purchase a sticker sheet though from TLG.

[The_Chosen_1]

Keep in mind that the original sticker sheet had a typo on it, so you might be able to just get them to send you the new "corrected" version. That's what they were willing to do for me.

[Edmond Dantes]

^ Bravo, We all have enough passion to spend our time on a lego forum, yet many of us missed out on the small release window of one of the best ever lego sets. We shouldn't be punished and have to charge 3x what it was originally priced.

I wouldn't exactly call it a small release window. The UCS Falcon went on sale starting in Oct. 2007 for an MSRP of 500 USD. It went on sale for $350 on May 4, 2009 (I believe) and then again for $375 on May 4, 2010 (this last I am sure of, since it's when I purchased it).

That's a 2.5 year release window - plenty long, imo.

[Oxus]

I wouldn't exactly call it a small release window. The UCS Falcon went on sale starting in Oct. 2007 for an MSRP of 500 USD. It went on sale for $350 on May 4, 2009 (I believe) and then again for $375 on May 4, 2010 (this last I am sure of, since it's when I purchased it).

That's a 2.5 year release window - plenty long, imo.

So you're arguing that it should be priced at $1,000+? I don't understand that argument. Many people have recently rediscovered their love of lego. I guess it comes down to whether people think collector means limited edition, or whether it means a collectible item.

[Fuppylodders]

That's a 2.5 year release window - plenty long, imo.

For those that have been into Lego for long enough, with the money to spare.

The one time I went into a shop and saw it for the first time, I was having bad luck with money/job and I can tell you, when there are more important things in life at that time to put my money into to keep myself afloat, and then have someone say basically its my fault for not getting there quick enough, and that I now deserve to pay £1000 or so for one, is quite frankly, an arrogant mindset.

Those that have one of the first few thousand that had the collectors edition number, were REAL collectors edition items. Any MF after that, people are just kidding themselves thinking it is something specially unique and rare to collect. You take a look on Bricklink/E-bay.... they are NOT rare. Just stupidly overpriced.

Edited January 27, 2012 by Fuppylodders

[Destroydacre]

So you're arguing that it should be priced at $1,000+? I don't understand that argument. Many people have recently rediscovered their love of lego. I guess it comes down to whether people think collector means limited edition, or whether it means a collectible item.

Not really sure where you got that idea out of his reply. Two and a half years is more than most Lego sets are available for. That's a fact. It's not an argument about what the secondary market price should be.

[AvengerDr]

How much time did it take for your order to be delivered (through the lost parts service - UK)? It has been nearly two weeks...

[Lobot]

This set was available for a long while and I feel, in hindsight, at quite a reasonable cost.

I’ve said previously that I wouldn’t mind at all if Lego decided to re-issue it (and I say this as an owner of one), but I don’t imagine that it would now be sold for less that £450. However, at that price-point it will still, understandably, be too expensive for many fans so it wouldn’t be a magic solution that some have suggested.

At the end of the day it’s currently subject to the laws of supply & demand and there will be those fortunate enough to own it, and those that don’t. I’d love to buy several more of the UCS sets (10030 & 10143 to name just two) but I don’t have endless financial reserves and I accept that I have to prioritise what I can spend my money on.

Edited January 27, 2012 by Lobot

[The_Chosen_1]

I would be very surprised if 10179 is remade. With the current cost-per-piece ratio for most Star Wars sets pushing $.14 or more, it would be at least $700.

[CaptainCRO]

I have a question about those 60 levers. I have this model built, but I can only count 59 levers on the ship.

- on the back of the ship there are 26 on the surface and 24 from down

- from that area, a bit to the front there are two holes(one on each side) filled with parts in each there are 2 levers

- right in front of the big turret there are 2 levers

- on the cockpit there are 3 levers.

Where is the missing lever!? I am so crazy about this. Have been checking the instruction 100 times and can't figure it out.

[Oxus]

I would be very surprised if 10179 is remade. With the current cost-per-piece ratio for most Star Wars sets pushing $.14 or more, it would be at least $700.

I think 700$ would be more reasonable than the current rate by far. What's bothering me with this thread is the undercurrent from some posts where people seem to feel entitled to having a reasonably priced Falcon set, while those that missed out should be "punished" in some form for not getting it in the 2.5 year window. Why not just re-release a set as popular as this if the demand is available.

For the people arguing semantics over how long the set was release and weird things like that, what is your angle? What are you achieving by making those who couldn't afford the set or missed out for other reasons feel bad about it?

[Brickmamba]

It is too bad I was in my dark ages while this set was available, there is no way I would pay over $1k for this whether I am rich or poor, that is just a ridiculous price hike, too bad it is one UCS I would love to have displayed in my living room

[Oxus]

^ perfect example right there. He just missed out due to timing reasons.

[AndyC]

^ perfect example right there. He just missed out due to timing reasons.

You can make that argument about every set Lego ever produced though and expecting re-releases for the small number of people who both (a) missed out originally and (b) can afford to buy one is rather wishful thinking, there will always be a set somebody missed out on that now costs a fortune. You'd actually be better off hoping that TLG reintroduce some of the rarer parts in another set, which would make them a lot easier to obtain on the second hand market and is probably a lot more likely.

[The_Chosen_1]

I think AndyC hit it right on the head. It's not that anyone is saying "Well, if you missed out then that's too bad - you're fault." Speaking from experience as someone who was in my "Dark Ages" during the release window for 10179. However, I just recently finished piecing the set out through Bricklink and Lego and, $600 or so later, can now say I'm a proud owner of the set.

The bottom line is that if someone wants the set badly enough like I did, there are still ways to go about getting it. Is it more difficult? Yeah. But that's the nature of the collecting game, whether it's Lego, action figures, baseball cards, whatever. I don't think the high aftermarket price is reason for us to lobby for a re-release of the set. I was of the same opinion a year ago, when parting out the set hadn't even crossed my mind and I was convinced I would never have it. There are still lots of sets out there that I would love to have but never had a chance to buy. It's just the nature of the game.

[Edmond Dantes]

So you're arguing that it should be priced at $1,000+? I don't understand that argument. Many people have recently rediscovered their love of lego. I guess it comes down to whether people think collector means limited edition, or whether it means a collectible item.

This entire response is absurd. I wasn't posting regarding the secondary market value whatsoever - I was merely pointing out the release window was not small, nor was the price never reduced. Thus, there were plenty of opportunities to obtain this set at a reasonable cost. The MSRP was below the $0.10 / piece breakpoint and while on sale it was closer to $0.07 / piece. For a Star Wars UCS, this is excellent.

For those that have been into Lego for long enough, with the money to spare.

The one time I went into a shop and saw it for the first time, I was having bad luck with money/job and I can tell you, when there are more important things in life at that time to put my money into to keep myself afloat, and then have someone say basically its my fault for not getting there quick enough, and that I now deserve to pay £1000 or so for one, is quite frankly, an arrogant mindset.

Those that have one of the first few thousand that had the collectors edition number, were REAL collectors edition items. Any MF after that, people are just kidding themselves thinking it is something specially unique and rare to collect. You take a look on Bricklink/E-bay.... they are NOT rare. Just stupidly overpriced.

See above.

Edited January 29, 2012 by Edmond Dantes

[Oxus]

This entire response is absurd. I wasn't posting regarding the secondary market value whatsoever - I was merely pointing out the release window was not small, nor was the price never reduced. Thus, there were plenty of opportunities to obtain this set at a reasonable cost. The MSRP was below the $0.10 / piece breakpoint and while on sale it was closer to $0.07 / piece. For a Star Wars UCS, this is excellent.

See above.

But that is neither here nor there, "was" "was" "was" has nothing to do with today's price of $1,000+. This thread is about the falcon's current pricing, not what is 'was" during a 2 year window.

I agree wholeheartedly that the original pricing was excellent.