Phantoka_Chirox Posted January 30, 2012 Author Posted January 30, 2012 Captain America looks like he has new leg armor Quote
Shakar Posted January 30, 2012 Posted January 30, 2012 I had already noted that earlier in the topic. At least 4 summer Hero Factory feature it in additional colours: Bulk, Voltix, Core Hunter and Stormer. It's actually one of the upcoming new pieces I'm looking forward the most, it compliments the new shoulder pads really well. And are size 4 shells I see on Cap. America's forearms? I would love that-size 4 shells are sadly underused. Quote
Aethersprite Posted January 30, 2012 Posted January 30, 2012 And are size 4 shells I see on Cap. America's forearms? I would love that-size 4 shells are sadly underused. Unfortunately, those look like size 5 shells to me. Quote
Shakar Posted January 30, 2012 Posted January 30, 2012 I think it's pretty interesting that I think Iron Man is better than any Hero Factory set released in the summer except Core Hunter. Just personal preference, but still. Just love how he's built, bar the silver claw used as back armor. Would have preferred it in gold (even though I never got Nex 3.0 and haven't got Furno, so I don't have that shell in silver... so I can't call it a flaw...). I too am fond of Iron Man, as well (though I prefer the HF summer sets). He looks much cleaner, design-wise, compared to most of the other sets in the line (Green Lantern arguably rivals him, but I don't have the set and if I happen to buy him it's going to be mostly due to the bright green pieces). I didn't notice Ironman's back armour- good eye! I'm quite a fan of that piece, and I already used it as back armour in a MOC of mine. But said MOC used that piece in combination with other ones- on its own, I'm not fond of how it looks. And yes, gold would have been great (heck, they could have even used a red one, which already exists in Raw-Jaw): we need that piece in more colours, I say. Unfortunately, those look like size 5 shells to me. Yeah, that's why I'm asking: I'm pessimist about it, and I fear you're right. I don't mix them up often (the size 5 shells look noticeably wider), but at that angle it's a bit hard to tell. Still, I guess they're not going to make an old part in a new colour, when a similar, already existing one in that same colour works just as fine. Quote
Aethersprite Posted January 30, 2012 Posted January 30, 2012 Also - is the blue on Cap a darker blue than the current one we have on Surge/Batman? It looks like it, and would make sense since Stringer seems to have a different shade of blue as well, they could share the same blue. Quote
TheDesuComplex Posted January 30, 2012 Posted January 30, 2012 And are size 4 shells I see on Cap. America's forearms? I would love that-size 4 shells are sadly underused. Yeah, they seem like size 4 shells to me, basing it around where the ball-socket and peg connections seem to be. ..Than again, the lip over the elbow looks a bit long for a size 4 shell. We'll just have to wait 2 or so months and see. Quote
Shakar Posted January 30, 2012 Posted January 30, 2012 Oh, good point. Well, I'm keeping my finger crossed- I tried to reproduce Cap America's pose with a Hero, using a 5 size shell and then a 4 one, and I actually am more convinced than before it may be a 4 size shell. But we don't need to wait 2 months- Toy Fair is coming in a few days! That, I guess, will also answer our doubts about Stringer and Cap America's blue. Dark blue would rock, but Front sort of disconfirmed it.. BTW, your name is great. Quote
MakutaDreadscythe Posted January 30, 2012 Posted January 30, 2012 So the hulk chest looks like a dual ball snap connection to shoulders of the wider torso. and maybe an unused connection at the back middle bottom of the piece. Doubt it. As much as that would be awesome, if you look carefully at the torso where the "ball" shoulders are, the connections are used with various bones to hold up his "shoulders" (the silver shells above the torso) Quote
TheDesuComplex Posted January 30, 2012 Posted January 30, 2012 Oh, good point. Well, I'm keeping my finger crossed- I tried to reproduce Cap America's pose with a Hero, using a 5 size shell and then a 4 one, and I actually am more convinced than before it may be a 4 size shell. But we don't need to wait 2 months- Toy Fair is coming in a few days! That, I guess, will also answer our doubts about Stringer and Cap America's blue. Dark blue would rock, but Front sort of disconfirmed it.. BTW, your name is great. Oh yeah, forgot about Toy Fair. Silly me. And thanks. Doubt it. As much as that would be awesome, if you look carefully at the torso where the "ball" shoulders are, the connections are used with various bones to hold up his "shoulders" (the silver shells above the torso) I was thinking that we'd somehow see something akin to how Kongu Mahri/Pohatu Phantoka's shoulders were constructed in the new system, but looking at the photos again it seems that he has two torso bones- the shoulders of the front one holding up the 'shoulder-plates' and the shoulders of the backmost one supporting the arms. Quote
just2good Posted January 30, 2012 Posted January 30, 2012 The new sets look interesting. I'm amazed that the Disney logo is nowhere to be seen on the box... Quote
Aanchir Posted February 1, 2012 Posted February 1, 2012 The Marvel sets are quite nice, even if some of them are a bit weird. With the DC superheroes, my favorite design was Batman since he looked the least "robotic" to me. In the case of the Marvel superheroes, Iron Man is my favorite, because although he's the most robotic-looking he's also a character for whom that makes sense. Hulk is probably my second-favorite, as I love his absurd proportions. Captain America is nice, but I can't for the life of me make sense of that armor he's got on his shoulders. It's a nice idea but it just ends up looking awkward however you slice it. Quote
Omicron Squad Leader Posted February 1, 2012 Posted February 1, 2012 Nah, that's a size 5 shell on Captain America's forearm, guys, sorry to burst your bubble. Quote
Vinyl Scratch Posted February 2, 2012 Posted February 2, 2012 ... Okay, Iron-Man is an ABSOLUTE must-get in my list. I share that opinion of the set having a flip-out helmet, but I'm okay either way. Quote
vexorian Posted February 2, 2012 Posted February 2, 2012 Iron-Man is the reason they should have focused only on inorganic characters for this line. Imagine A sentinel, Brainiac, War Machine and whatever instead of the messy looking guys. Iron-Man is truly nice looking. The only reason I won't bet him is that I don't want to finance the SOPA lobby buy licensed sets anymore. But kudos to the designers. Albeit the silver bits in Captain America and Hulk really make up for their success in Iron Man. Quote
DOTM Shockwave Posted February 2, 2012 Posted February 2, 2012 I'm curious to see how Hulk's torso is assemble, other than that, I have no interest in him. Quote
Shakar Posted February 8, 2012 Posted February 8, 2012 (edited) I think Hulk's huge chest piece attaches via 2 pegs, like many Hero Factory pieces. The reason I think this is because it covers the upper part of the Hero 2.0 torso plate, which features two compatible holes. Coincidentally Hero Factory summer set Stormer XL uses the same combination (giant chest piece+Hero 2.0 torso plate), which I think further supports my theory. Edited February 9, 2012 by Shakar Quote
Aanchir Posted February 8, 2012 Posted February 8, 2012 I think Hulk's huge chest piece attaches via 2 pegs, like many Hero Hero pieces. The reason I think this is because it covers the upper part of the Hero 2.0 torso plate, which features two compatible holes. Coincidentally Hero Factory summer set Stormer XL uses the same combination (giant chest piece+Hero 2.0 torso plate), which I think further supports my theory. Hero Hero pieces? Anyway, I'm also certain it attaches by that connection, but at the same time I wouldn't be surprised if it has more attachment points on the back than just those two bars, since it covers so much area. Quote
Shakar Posted February 9, 2012 Posted February 9, 2012 Haha, I actually wrote "Factory" at first, then I played around with the link order and this is what happened. I don't know, I see no connection point at the sides. Maybe it has a ball joint above the alleged "two pegs area", much like a giant cladding shell. But where would that attach to? Quote
The Dor Posted February 9, 2012 Posted February 9, 2012 Haha, I actually wrote "Factory" at first, then I played around with the link order and this is what happened. I don't know, I see no connection point at the sides. Maybe it has a ball joint above the alleged "two pegs area", much like a giant cladding shell. But where would that attach to? I'm quite certain it connects to either shoulder, possibly in addition to the two pegs. You can see the socket quite clearly in this picture, below the silver / gunmetal shell on his left shoulder. Quote
Brickthing Posted February 9, 2012 Posted February 9, 2012 Feelin' ignored, youse guys. For a piece that size, it seems very likely. You'd need at least two connection points stop the piece from wobbling noticeably around the torso bone, as was done with Drilldozer's chestplate piece(which should hopefully return in the future). However, thinking about the back of the Hulk/Stormer armour makes me fear for the state of their backs. Quote
Aanchir Posted February 9, 2012 Posted February 9, 2012 For a piece that size, it seems very likely. You'd need at least two connection points stop the piece from wobbling noticeably around the torso bone, as was done with Drilldozer's chestplate piece(which should hopefully return in the future). However, thinking about the back of the Hulk/Stormer armour makes me fear for the state of their backs. In the TV episode clips we've seen, Stormer has back armor in the form of a basic 2.0 torso shell, but of course that's not all that reliable since the TV episodes tend to add back armor to everyone. Overall I think the likelihood of Stormer having back armor is higher than the likelihood of the Hulk having back armor, since Stormer is at a higher price point. Then again the Super Heroes sets in general have been quite generous when it comes to back armor, and since Hulk's design like most of the Super Hero designs has two torso beams, there is definitely a connection point where back armor could be attached if TLG so chose (and could afford it without bumping up the price). Unfortunately I don't see any back armor making use of that connection point in the image that The Dor linked to. Quote
Aethersprite Posted February 9, 2012 Posted February 9, 2012 Unfortunately I don't see any back armor making use of that connection point in the image that The Dor linked to. Well, we'll be able to see for sure when Toy Fair comes rolling around in a few days! Anyway, I just saw the Super Bowl trailer for the Avengers. I really hope the Superheroes Ultrabuild line will continue till next year, even though I doubt that will happen. There's so much potential for so many superheroes to be made! Quote
Poison Ivy Posted February 9, 2012 Posted February 9, 2012 Unfortunately I don't see any back armor making use of that connection point in the image that The Dor linked to. That connection point is the point where the head would attach on a HF Hero, so no back armor there makes sense. The back armor would probably be connected via the connector near the 'stomach' of the Hero skeleton piece, so back armor is still a possibility for Hulk at this point. My main concern now is whether the back armor will be green or gunmetal. I'm hoping for the former, because the latter would make me a sad plant-girl. Quote
Aanchir Posted February 9, 2012 Posted February 9, 2012 (edited) That connection point is the point where the head would attach on a HF Hero, so no back armor there makes sense. The back armor would probably be connected via the connector near the 'stomach' of the Hero skeleton piece, so back armor is still a possibility for Hulk at this point. My main concern now is whether the back armor will be green or gunmetal. I'm hoping for the former, because the latter would make me a sad plant-girl. No, I'm talking about the connection point in the center of the torso bone (where the torso armor would attach on a Hero Factory set). The Batman, Green Lantern, and Iron Man sets all make use of this for attaching back armor, as seen here and here. On Hulk, however, it seems to go unused, probably because a sufficiently-sized shell in addition to his already-massive torso would push him above the price point of the other Super Hero sets. You can't actually see this connection point in the picture The Dor linked, but you can see that if he does have back armor, it still leaves his back relatively bare based on the large gaps still present in his torso. Edited February 9, 2012 by Aanchir Quote
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