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Unless you're using reverse psychology on us, and now I've got a headache from all the thinking.

I doubt so. Reverse psychology would imply that a mobster acts like a mobster, which would be too risky in my opinion. It'll never work on anyone, so they'll in the end just draw suspicion on themselves and make sure people don't trust them.

Also, I believe it's pretty hard to act exactly so scummy that it neither looks like you're a mobster who made a mistake nor you are just obviously scummy.

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You are ever so right. A stupid accent is no reason to vote someone of or to consider them to be suspicious. Although a stupid accent can indeed be very annoying.

This wasn't in reference to an accent.

And Eugene, drugs may be a part of what you are but they shouldn't be a part you're proud of. Drug abuse is a serious problem. And heroin is a known gateway drug to scumminess. Just consult any medical journal.

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A bit of Heroin never hurt anyone anyway. Now my drug habits are part of who I am. I am who I am. We can't change who we are Nika.

So you decide to answer with what would appear to be more roleplay? No explanations of your actions? :sceptic:
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So you decide to answer with what would appear to be more roleplay? No explanations of your actions? :sceptic:

Shall he tell us why he takes the drugs? Sorry if I sound a bit harsh, but honestly, I don't think we'll get anywhere discussing about Eugene's drug abuse. But on the other hand, I'm not sure what we should talk about then :look:

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Shall he tell us why he takes the drugs? Sorry if I sound a bit harsh, but honestly, I don't think we'll get anywhere discussing about Eugene's drug abuse. But on the other hand, I'm not sure what we should talk about then :look:

Sorry, I should clarify, I was asking why he didn't just tell us why he keeps focusing on drugs. This discussion would be over if he had just said it was roleplaying.
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I think we're focusing to much on Eugene's drug abuse. If Eugene were scum he wouldn't even have mentioned it in the first place. It just draws attention to himself and scum doesn't want that. But on the other hand it could also be a smart way to draw attention to himself. So we would think that he isn't scum.

Wow my head hurts.

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Is it almost lunch time yet? I'm eager to see who these 'stone-casters' are going to vote for.

A bit of Heroin never hurt anyone anyway. Now my drug habits are part of who I am. I am who I am. We can't change who we are Nika.

You don't need to get high on drugs if you can get high on life. Many actors, athletes, and singers do Yoga before their various filming, games, and performances. It relaxes and calms the mind, and it makes you more flexible.

Namaste everyone! :sweet:

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I don't think it's wise to trust anyone at this point. I love my wife with all my heart, but how could I know if she's secretly working for the Mafia or not? Trust is a luxury given only to the mobsters, so claiming you trust someone makes you look suspicious to me.

I do not trust anyone at this point. I just have people I do not want to vote for on Day 1. They are not townies for sure, but I feel less strongly about some others. That is all I'm saying. I say I was less suspect of them, not that I trust them.

Shall he tell us why he takes the drugs? Sorry if I sound a bit harsh, but honestly, I don't think we'll get anywhere discussing about Eugene's drug abuse. But on the other hand, I'm not sure what we should talk about then :look:

I think we're focusing to much on Eugene's drug abuse. If Eugene were scum he wouldn't even have mentioned it in the first place.

Yawn. This is boring and stupid. Anyone who is discussing it is on my suspect list. It does not have importance in the slightest, and reminds me of many other play I have read where scum try to distract town with useless information. Please stop, it is not helping anyone.

Also, third person is just the way Petr talk sometimes. It is not due to Russia. No Russians that Petr knows use third person. Ever. Seriously.

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It does not have importance in the slightest, and reminds me of many other play I have read where scum try to distract town with useless information.

That's exactly why I was asking why he kept on roleplaying it.
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Yawn. This is boring and stupid. Anyone who is discussing it is on my suspect list. It does not have importance in the slightest, and reminds me of many other play I have read where scum try to distract town with useless information. Please stop, it is not helping anyone.

Thankyou, somebody has common sense. Everyone calm down, I am roleplaying since we have nothing to exactly talk about yet do we. :sceptic:

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Goshdarnit we're one heck of a large group, and we're all talking nineteen to the dozen here. I fear that there's a good likelihood that more traditional means of identifying scum, at least from the movies I've seen, may be being deliberately manipulated to the scum's advantage. I fear that the way the world has changed has led to scum easily realising how they may be noticed among us, and they are likely to play against this by being loud and brash.

As so many have said, the first day of terrible ordeals such as this rarely yield any conclusive information, but the books I've read indicate we're usually better off in the long run by starting the lynching off on day one, and so I worry about suggestions from some that we shouldn't vote today or that we should vote without the intention of gaining a conviction. I agree with Reya - voting patterns will be a useful tool for identifying lying scum later on in this ordeal, and those of us still standing will benefit from the information that can be gleaned.

As Samuel has eloquently stated, we none of us can trust anyone, not even those we love most, although I hope my beautiful Falicia would never do me wrong. It seems that we must be wary of our innocent citizens being converted to the evil ways of the scum, and I agree with Wilem that some sort of mafia ninja is likely among us.

The most we can do at the moment is listen to each other and begin to form an opinion. Whether that opinion turns out to be the right one - well, there's only one real way to test that...

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Urgh, I want to study but this is just crazy. I don't really want to vote or anything like that. I'm not confident throwing strong opinions like that out without knowing anyone closely. I'll sit back for now I think.

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Urgh, I want to study but this is just crazy. I don't really want to vote or anything like that. I'm not confident throwing strong opinions like that out without knowing anyone closely. I'll sit back for now I think.

Who the hell are you, again? :wacko:

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Who the hell are you, again? :wacko:

Sorry, I haven't introduced myself properly. I'm Catya, and I'm engaged to Yan. I'll get my identity sorted out to make it clearer as soon as I can.

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Yawn. This is boring and stupid. Anyone who is discussing it is on my suspect list. It does not have importance in the slightest, and reminds me of many other play I have read where scum try to distract town with useless information. Please stop, it is not helping anyone.

Because there is such a wealth of other leads that we can't bother even discussing someone acting suspiciously. :hmpf: Sorry if trying to find the scum is boring.

I'll be the first to admit that Eugene might not be worth voting for today but openly proclaiming illicit drug use at least deserved an explanation. If that puts me on your suspect list then so be it.

For now I'm satisfied that he was overstating his background a little but I still think he needs watching.

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This is the same as talking about pies. Why on earth would member of scum bring up something, in passing on top of that, that would make them look scummy? No reason. It's the people trying to distract us with it that are not helping town.

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This is the same as talking about pies. Why on earth would member of scum bring up something, in passing on top of that, that would make them look scummy? No reason. It's the people trying to distract us with it that are not helping town.

I think you're the one perpetuating it now, pal.

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I am getting a headache from all the babbling. It seems, as usual, it's going to be very difficult to make an intelligent decision at this point. If anyone can make a valid case against another, back it up with a little logic and leave out of the odds and ends and accents and drugs, I would be happy to hear it now. Otherwise, babble on, I guess.

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I am getting a headache from all the babbling. It seems, as usual, it's going to be very difficult to make an intelligent decision at this point. If anyone can make a valid case against another, back it up with a little logic and leave out of the odds and ends and accents and drugs, I would be happy to hear it now. Otherwise, babble on, I guess.

Unless you have something more substantial to discuss, the drug thing is the only thing we've got. Roleplaying beyond what is necessary isn't normal. As Zepher said, it could have been an attempt to distract us. But what we have to remember is that someone must be doing the distracting and that someone must have a reason for doing it.
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Grr. We're getting nowhere so far. Though, I can't say I'm helping much, but I've got nothing else to add. :sceptic:

Petr, why don't you share with us who you think is most suspicious? You clearly have someone in mind.

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I am getting a headache from all the babbling. It seems, as usual, it's going to be very difficult to make an intelligent decision at this point. If anyone can make a valid case against another, back it up with a little logic and leave out of the odds and ends and accents and drugs, I would be happy to hear it now. Otherwise, babble on, I guess.

It's been giving me quite a headache as well. :sceptic: I don't really know what to make of Eugene's substance abuse, because most people wouldn't want to reveal such things about themselves, yet he still did.

As for non-babble suspicions, I would have to suggest that we look at those who've been laying low and not contributing much (if anything). There are so many people here today that all the scum have to do is sit back and laugh at us as we take all the wrong twists and turns.

Unless you have something more substantial to discuss, the drug thing is the only thing we've got. Roleplaying beyond what is necessary isn't normal. As Zepher said, it could have been an attempt to distract us. But what we have to remember is that someone must be doing the distracting and that someone must have a reason for doing it.

It's true. Almost everyone role-plays a bit, but the fact that he answered Boris and Nika's questions with more role-playing makes him look pretty scummy.

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At this stage now, I am very sure those Russian scums are laughing their heads off as we appears to be in a midst of confusion, and in their case, they love a good old confusion that stir us up.

In our case, I don't have an idea of who to suspect for today. In my own judgement, I tend to be wary of those who are lurking behind the scenes and those who are stirring shit and confusion to add woes to our cause.

In the first day, the probability of hitting a scum conviction is extremely low, even though I read a Werewolf book in the past, ending up being convicted right here in Day 1. Unless we have solid lead and bold assumption of who to convict, I will really prefer to find out "what" might be the penalty is.

Of course, there is another side of the story for the other school of thoughts, which is often discussed. If we don't convict someone, we don't get results and we can't work our way to eliminate one another. It really depends on how strong and how determined we want to steer a conviction or not. Mid-day is approaching soon, and it will be best to consolidate our suspicions. Lastly, let's not metagame each other, merely because of our occupation and background in Moonlight. I am very confident that the Russian Mafia goons come in differents shapes and sizes with diverse backgrounds.

I also thanks to those who noted what Agent Sky had mentioned and those notes will be of use in the later days. I am very sure of it.

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Grr. We're getting nowhere so far. Though, I can't say I'm helping much, but I've got nothing else to add. :sceptic:

Petr, why don't you share with us who you think is most suspicious? You clearly have someone in mind.

That is issue, I have no one I suspect, just people I suspect less than other people. If I had to make vote in dark, I would vote Barbara. Why? Because we have no evidence for no one, and she has said ONLY thing that has raised any red flag at all. This is thing that bother Petr.

Is it almost lunch time yet? I'm eager to see who these 'stone-casters' are going to vote for.

You don't need to get high on drugs if you can get high on life. Many actors, athletes, and singers do Yoga before their various filming, games, and performances. It relaxes and calms the mind, and it makes you more flexible.

Namaste everyone! :sweet:

She asks for vote to be cast, but does not say she will be part of it. She then talks up drug point, which I think people are playing up to distract us. Soounds very much like she wants lynch, but does not want to partake in it.

But here is problem. You just read all that makes me, Petr, suspicious of her, and you are probably thinking that she is not suspect at all. I mostly agree. But everyone else is even less suspect, and I want to get ball rolling. I have long time said I do not like vote on first day, all characters in plays that I feel bond with always say voting on the first day is bad, but I have changed my mind lately, because with this many people if we don't start to get evidence, we'll be behind the scummies. They are just my thoughts. Do not attack me for these, I share because people ask.

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Dear oh dear, what a mess. Alot seems to happen when one goes off to work. Thus far from my point of view we can consolidate today's discussion into three main takeaways.

1. Wilem's observations on the late Agent Sky's "evidences" if they may be considered such. While they may not relate to the decision we have at hand, the statement's shouldefinitelyly influence our future considerations and accusations. Thank you Mr. Wilem.

2. The discussion upon penalties for reaching a conviction. While we may not know about what they exactly are, we know that they will be penalties and will hinder us from more effectively eliminating the mafia among us. I agree with the fact that there is no such thing as a useless townie, every townie we have keeps us one step further away from being outnumbered. Voting for someone will be a hard decision, but one I think in the end we will have to come to.

3. The point of Eugene'shabithabbit duly duely noted should he be discovered to have any controlled substances within his possession, I think should be relegated to the point of role-playing. I was in a production once where one of the actors went way off the deep-end in terms of his character ending up trouncing around with a bucket on his head. While he may have been a little nuts it turned out he was malicious. So Mr. Eugene I would encourage you to not continue this distraction, if you need aid I can refer you to several community help lines. To the rest I would encourage to stop picking at role-playing straws and see if we canmeaningfullyningly forward. Unless of course the mafia are trying to keep us distracted with such side issues. Then we know whom to keep our eyes on.

I'm going to pour through the statements made again and see if there is anything that "logically" smells fishy and try and make some reasonable headway if possible.

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You may now vote. You have 48 hours to reach a conviction. With ... freaking wow ... 28 players, it takes 15 votes to lynch.

As previously unmentioned, but soon to be edited, (darn there's a lot to remember when hosting :blush: ) you are only allowed one unvote per game day. :grin: Have fun. :devil_laugh:

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