Heroica RPG General Discussion

[StickFig]

How much have people bought on average? I know Guts has a lot, but for the most part people have bought about 20-25 cards.

Matthias bought 100.

As for the deck cap, don't bother. A player can still be eliminated with mny cards in his deck and part of the point of this exercise was to put some decamon cards into circulation. Big purchases achieve that. Plus he can act as a resource for trading and onselling the cards.

Exactly.

Suggestion: Allow them to buy as many cards as they like, but when the time comes, they have to narrow down their pool to only a select few. (E.g. They buy 100, and when purchasing closes, everyone has a period of time to choose which 20 cards to keep and which cards to ditch.)

If this happens, those characters who bought large numbers of cards as an investment will need to get their money back....

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"With hooks?" Asked Warlen.

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Edited December 9, 2014 by StickFig

[The Chosen Minifigure]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

That's more laughs than Warlen has got from the ladies this whole Quest...

[Kintobor]

You lost her the moment you introduced your flaming skull. Annienal isn't into flaming skulls.

[The Chosen Minifigure]

And he is so p!$$3|) off that everyone hates him.

[CMP]

You lost her the moment you introduced your flaming skull. Annienal isn't into flaming skulls.

I take it she's not part of the Ghost Rider fanbase then.

[Endgame]

I'll add your loot from the Monolith battle tomorrow, 105ers. For now, The Regret awaits your challenge/battle order!

And trust me, the real fun begins after round one.

[Kintobor]

While Endgame's party faces the wrath of a truly difficult and devastating foe, the heroes of 117 face off against a bunch of woodland creatures and a rather PO'd bear.

[The Chosen Minifigure]

Any chance of a magic item stall in the marketplace?

Containing Gems, Scrolls, Ether-Based artefacts, and other Ether-Useable items?

[JimBee]

Any chance of a magic item stall in the marketplace?

Containing Gems, Scrolls, Ether-Based artefacts, and other Ether-Useable items?

You missed that train by about a year. Elphaba supplied these items but I don't think she'll be coming back to Eubric any time soon after the events of 100.

[Myrddyn]

Perhaps a solution to the issue of accountability in the chosen hand would be to have Sandy select an additional two players in each match, (perhaps the next pair of players), whom the other two players PM their chosen hand to? That way Sandy isn't swamped with PM's, and we retain a fairly high degree of accountability.

Also perhaps a cap on the number of rewards each character can take would discourage people from buying loads of cards without requiring a retcon? Though I'd have no objections if Sandy decides to go with a retcon.

I'd of course be prepared to assist in any way, but I don't have a heap of time to do so.

No. That would automatically disqualify anybody who, like me, has a five card deck that is partially made up of duplicates, or indeed, a deck of any size that is largely made up of duplicates of the same type of card.

Ah yes, I hadn't considered the case at that end.

Perhaps an easy solution would be to make the rules modification only for cards higher than a certain power. Everyone so far with only five cards, some of which are duplicates, have only power:1 cards.

[The Chosen Minifigure]

Does anyone have screenshots of it? I'd love to see it...

[Sandy]

Alright, currently the Decamon Tournament has several issues:

1) People are worried about cheating, and thus separate "Cup Moderators" should be appointed. (So far, Chromeknight, WBD and Flare have volunteered.)

2) People are buying too many cards to keep check with. This also tilts the Tournament to their favour.

3) Exchanging cards into prizes can be exploited to farm gold. Meaning the price of the cards may be too low.

4) The Decamon Drafter class might need balancing because of people having so many cards. Also, people aren't settling for the fact that only the winner could get it.

Due to these issues, I will have to restart the event tonight. Everyone can just take their money back and pretend that the current topic never happened.

[Flare]

Scubacarrot and Palathadric also offered their help.

I think your doing the right thing Sandy, well, depending on the exact changes you make

[The Chosen Minifigure]

Pease don't make cards too expensive.

And what about those that entered the event with 5g, they now can't play!

All other points I agree with.

Put a cap on cards and most problems will be solved, though.

[Khorne]

Gah, Eric soooo should've been on #119, now with The Merry Mermaid and Mariel . He'd done his utmost best to botch the quest and bring down the Bonapartes!

[Asphalt]

WE eagerly await your decisions fearless leader. Gotta say, even with the "flaws" it is a very impressive endeavor and I cant wait to participate.

[Bricksandparts]

I didn't say that the cards necessarily needed a new price, I just think that the lower-tier prizes should be nerfed.

[StickFig]

3) Exchanging cards into prizes can be exploited to farm gold. Meaning the price of the cards may be too low.

Well, rats.

Looking forward to the revamped tournament!

[Asphalt]

I think a cap number of cards would make more sense than raising the prices. There are those playing who could afford a deck pretty much no matter the price. All raising the prices would do would be to exclude poor characters.

[Lind Whisperer]

If I might, here are two suggestions for the reboot:

The first Beginners Hand costs 5 gold. The others cost more, possibly on an exponential basis.

The Decamon Drafter prize is given out in a Letter of Recommendation style to a single player, like it was intended - this style allows for the player to resell it to another player in the event that they personally are not interested in taking the class. However, in keeping with the style of the contest, the player can only resell it to other players who nearly won the contest as well - possibly the top 3-5 players suggested.

A few more suggestions, these a bit more "out there":

Just remove all Hands besides the Beginner's. It may not seem fair, but it will force players to focus harder on their game, to win better cards off of the NPCs and other players, and, (although this is not taking into account the few players who already have them), it would certainly make the playing field extremely leveled.

If giving out the Decamon Drafter class Letter of Recommendation style is not decided to be a good idea, perhaps give out Decamon Reputation to the top winning players instead, so that they can save it up and eventually train the class someday?

[Flipz]

I think a cap number of cards would make more sense than raising the prices. There are those playing who could afford a deck pretty much no matter the price. All raising the prices would do would be to exclude poor characters.

I understand the drive to try to include the poorer characters, but at a certain point you have to accept that the people who have been playing this game for years and who have saved up their gold are going to have an advantage. I'd understand artificial field - leveling if this were completely separate from the rest of Heroica, but the fact of the matter is that between the prizes and the class, this is a part of character advancement, and so people are going to invest in the tournament just as much as they do into their regular characters.

That said, I personally wouldn't mind if the tournament was delayed for a while, in order to let people build their decks through gameplay instead of gold. Now that we have a more complete set of cards QMs can drop as loot, as well as one (soon to be four) Decamodifiers in play, and not to mention a rough idea of the value of each card level, we can start to integrate Decamon into the existing Heroica rewards system, which will help a lot in curbing abuse. While I'm excited for the tournament, especially the rewards for those Level 9 cards, I honestly think that a delay would be better for everyone (including the poorer characters who would now have more time to gather their decks).

[Sandy]

That said, I personally wouldn't mind if the tournament was delayed for a while, in order to let people build their decks through gameplay instead of gold. Now that we have a more complete set of cards QMs can drop as loot, as well as one (soon to be four) Decamodifiers in play, and not to mention a rough idea of the value of each card level, we can start to integrate Decamon into the existing Heroica rewards system, which will help a lot in curbing abuse. While I'm excited for the tournament, especially the rewards for those Level 9 cards, I honestly think that a delay would be better for everyone (including the poorer characters who would now have more time to gather their decks).

I'm not going to delay the event, but if things go well (from here on out), this could become an annual event. So you will have time to compete with a better collection in the future.

I have now made my decisions: the players will only be able to buy one hand from the event, and they will have to gather more cards by winning matches (of course those few with pre-existing cards can use them as well). That eliminates the need for separate moderators, because I know I won't cheat, and people won't have that many cards to cheat with.

I will make more different types of hands to buy, to allow people to spend more gold to ensure they get better cards.

Access to the Decamon Drafter job class will be awarded to all players who reach the Championship Cup, and the winner of the Championship Cup will get the chance to match with the Emerald Emperor for a chance to take the sole Level 10 card in the Tournament, which he or she can then keep or trade for a "Mystery Prize".

I hope everyone will be happy with this solution. It will simplify matters a whole lot, which is good since this is the very first event of it's type, and I'm unsure how it will affect the game in the long run.

[Cutcobra]

Quick question: If someone were to buy a Beginner's hand, would you make the match fair or make the opponent more powerful than the player?

[UsernameMDM]

Quick question: If someone were to buy a Beginner's hand, would you make the match fair or make the opponent more powerful than the player?

I really don't understand this. A level 1 card can take out a level 10 card if it's elemental alignment is right.

Theoretically, you could win with all level 1 cards.

Or am I missing something?

[Sandy]

Quick question: If someone were to buy a Beginner's hand, would you make the match fair or make the opponent more powerful than the player?

I really don't understand this. A level 1 card can take out a level 10 card if it's elemental alignment is right.

Theoretically, you could win with all level 1 cards.

Or am I missing something?

Exactly as MDM said. You need more luck to win if you only have Level 1 cards, but it isn't impossible.

The NPC opponents will be randomly selected to each player, and after that it's a matter of advancing the "brackets":