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Also Dark Dwarves? How much more are we sticking under the surface of Eubric? :laugh:

Demons, shades, gnomes, halfling, dwarves, imps, Wolfgangers, the undead, a dragon...

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What are you literally going on about..?

In case you literally don't get it...your weapon's name sounds like a euphemism for male g-...Eh, male "maleness," the certain part of...well, the body, that makes a male...well, "male".

And I'm telling you, Eubric is going to tumble into the earth. That will be it's downfall!

I imagine the game ending with all of the then-current Heroes fighting each other in a massive interior war, until only one from each basic class still stands.

These remaining six Heroes will then become the new Veterans of Heroica, watching over and guiding a new generation and era of Heroes.

Or having Eubric fall into the earth*. That'd work too.

*Should that be "fall into the olegia"?

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In case you literally don't get it...your weapon's name sounds like a euphemism for male g-...Eh, male "maleness," the certain part of...well, the body, that makes a male...well, "male".

Trust me, I do know but why turn something completely innocent into a sexual innuendo? :wacko:

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Well water fills the volume of it's container so if Uland is originally secured to the ocean floor, than the sea level would have had to increase quite dramatically across the world, meaning more than just Mercution would have been destroyed. :look:

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I think the story is that mages sunk it when it became infested with demons, courtesy of Baba. I could be mistaken.

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EDIT: Yeah, but WBD's point is that if a whole continent sunk into the ocean ocean levels would have to rise across the board.

But this universe is magic! Maybe Baba sank Mercution and quickly drank up all the water that would have been displaced. We don't know the full extent of her powers yet.

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EDIT: Yeah, but WBD's point is that if a whole continent sunk into the ocean ocean levels would have to rise across the board.

But this universe is magic! Maybe Baba sank Mercution and quickly drank up all the water that would have been displaced. We don't know the full extent of her powers yet.

I think that they only sank the capitol city and the surrounding area, but the sea ended up swallowing the entire continent due to the rising sea level.

Although now I think of it, even if Mercution was the lowest-lying of the continents all those centuries ago, there still would have been other lands that got flooded, too. :laugh:

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Like I just said, a wizard did it. What other explanation do you need? :tongue:

I don't think Mercution was a 'continent' like say Xu or Baltarok is. I thought it was just something like a medium-sized island and the parts that remained above sea level became Uland and the Free Islands. Uland isn't THAT big. I don't think the water level would rise enough to flood the world.

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I don't know the entire known history of the Mercution incident, but perhaps it went something like this:

  1. Undersea volcanic vents slowly spew magma and heated gases into the oceans, superheating the water and causing massive cloud formation all around the globe.
  2. Volcanic activity on the planet itself begins to crack and break up the continent.
  3. The clouds cool off(possibly aided by the ash from the volcanoes), and begin to fall as rain.
  4. The magma keeps building up under the water, slowly pushing sea levels higher.
  5. The continental plate underneath Eubric slowly sinks, causing sea levels to go even higher, until they've nearly covered the (fairly small)continent.
  6. The rain finishes falling, leaving Eubric completely submerged.
  7. Eventually, volcanic activity pushes the continent up again out of the sea, getting ready to set a new cycle into motion.

You know, I'm getting all sorts of ideas for quests...What if Mercution wasn't actually sunken because of the city's actions, but because of coincidental timing between the city becoming extremely evil and the continent sinking? What if this cycle isn't just continental, but globular, and is in fact the Norse Ragnarök, the world constantly being destroyed and recreated?

The possibilities...

And I just realized, after reading everyone else's posts, that I really need to check up on my Olegia geography... :facepalm:

Just replace "Eubric" with the applicable continent name...

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Like I just said, a wizard did it. What other explanation do you need? :tongue:

I don't think Mercution was a 'continent' like say Xu or Baltarok is. I thought it was just something like a medium-sized island and the parts that remained above sea level became Uland and the Free Islands. Uland isn't THAT big. I don't think the water level would rise enough to flood the world.

Not to get too far into the global warming sort of debate, but really any large land mass sinking into the water would be bad. All continents have coastlines, and even if Uland isn't too bit we know it's just the tip. I don't think it was a whole continent, but it was certainly big enough...

Not that any of this matters. :laugh: Guessing at sizes of imaginary islands. :wacko:

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Not to get too far into the global warming sort of debate, but really any large land mass sinking into the water would be bad. All continents have coastlines, and even if Uland isn't too bit we know it's just the tip. I don't think it was a whole continent, but it was certainly big enough...

Not that any of this matters. :laugh: Guessing at sizes of imaginary islands. :wacko:

There's also the fact that we have no idea how big Olegaia even is. Who knows how far those Uncharted Waters go.

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Someone needs to write an "Atlantis" quest, where the party visits a city that went underwater during the whole ordeal...

That would make for a pretty cool quest. :wink:

Would it be when the city is above water level or below? I think some "Easter Eggs" about the actual story would be pretty cool for the quest with slight alterations to fit Heroica better, like perhaps maybe a Dwarven rendition of the Nautilus to give it a more Steampunk vibe?

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Would it be when the city is above water level or below? I think some "Easter Eggs" about the actual story would be pretty cool for the quest with slight alterations to fit Heroica better, like perhaps maybe a Dwarven rendition of the Nautilus to give it a more Steampunk vibe?

I meant more the general idea of exploring an sunken underwater city, and was citing Atlantis as the stereotypical sunken city. Although a Dwarven Nautilus...there's an idea...

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I'm pretty sure it was sunk when paladins sank it in order to stop the demons that were running rampant in the city. What is Uland today is actually the top of a large mountain and the rest of the continent has sunk, with the exception of a small portion on the other side of the Crystalline Sea. Eubric was built unknowingly above the capitol of the Moon Elves empire, and the Temple of Zoot and Haerasias' Vault still remain in the underground, as well as other Moon Elf structures.

I'm pretty sure that's how it happened, although I could be wrong. :look::tongue:

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Also Dark Dwarves? How much more are we sticking under the surface of Eubric? :laugh:

Dark Dwarves have actually been around since the beginning of the Fields of Glory - there's even a location named after them in the Northern Reaches (where you can obviously fight them, too). I liked the idea of them in my old brickcomic "Princess Quest" so much that I transferred them here.

I'm still trying to figure out how the original city perished under the waves? Super global warming?

Who said the sinking of Mercution didn't have an effect on nearby coasts as well? Of course the sea level rised when a whole continent was destroyed. The wizard-priests of Ennon didn't care about the consequences - their kingdom was protected by tall mountains, after all. :tongue:

I don't think Mercution was a 'continent' like say Xu or Baltarok is. I thought it was just something like a medium-sized island and the parts that remained above sea level became Uland and the Free Islands. Uland isn't THAT big. I don't think the water level would rise enough to flood the world.

In my not-very-scientific mind, Mercution was a small continent (resting on its own continental plate). What is now Moone was it's northern tip, and the Free Islands used to be great mountains on its eastern edge. I'd also imagine the Crystalline Sea isn't very deep.

Someone needs to write an "Atlantis" quest, where the party visits a city that went underwater during the whole ordeal...

There are several merfolk communities that have formed in the Mercutionian cities that got sunk, that has already been established. I one point thought about doing an underwater quest, but it doesn't quite fit any of my plotlines. So if anyone wants to host one, be my guest!

I'm pretty sure it was sunk when paladins sank it in order to stop the demons that were running rampant in the city. What is Uland today is actually the top of a large mountain and the rest of the continent has sunk, with the exception of a small portion on the other side of the Crystalline Sea. Eubric was built unknowingly above the capitol of the Moon Elves empire, and the Temple of Zoot and Haerasias' Vault still remain in the underground, as well as other Moon Elf structures.

Most of Nu Mercution was buried under the landslides caused by the spell and the ensuing tidal waves, but the Temple of Zoot remained mostly intact because the archdemons were guarding it.

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If Mercution was on it's own continental plate and the whole plate was dropped, sea levels would also fall around the globe, except over Mercution. Some tidal waves from stuff sloshing, but no global warming style flooding. Mind you, pushing a plate down toward the core would displace magma, sending volcanoes into overpressure and blowing the tops off them. So, still, global effects.

Following that chain of thought, (multiple large volcanic eruptions) Olegia might have narrowly avoided a nuclear winter type scenario...

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Elves be like: "We've got Star Elves, Moon Elves, Sun Elves and Wood Elves. I think we even have Dark Elves (?)."

Dwarfs: "Umm, there's normal dwarves and dark dwarves... DWARVES ARE BETTER THAN ELVES. :tongue:"

Seriously, though. I really like the design of Dark Dwarves.

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