Heroica RPG General Discussion

[Pyrovisionary]

I'd rule that Paralyzing Venom basically makes the weapon apply Slowed for one battle.

It doesn't poison them, and Flipz is right (As always you intelligent gentleman ), it was from the time of back row counterstrike glove fighting.

[Scubacarrot]

Ahem, as the creator of paralyzing venom, I would like to say it was a simpler time. What it did when I created the item was caused afflicted enemies to not be able to deal free hits. In other words, slowed on enemies as we know it now.

[Flipz]

Bobby, before stepping into the wrong door, gets some letter about getting in good with one of the houses, and while he himself doesn't really needs in with any of them, he remembers fondly his father's love of alchemy and decides that getting at like the Bucks family name on the Guild's radar might do his pa some good. The letter disappears just as oddly as it had appeared.

Wait, Bobby's a Guildie? Nooooo! The next Diana Quest gives Ziegfried rep.

[Zepher]

I don't know. None of the expert classes really appeal to me for him... so I just chose one. I was going to sell the letter of recommendation to someone but then I saw that wasn't an option.

[Lind Whisperer]

I don't know. None of the expert classes really appeal to me for him... so I just chose one. I was going to sell the letter of recommendation to someone but then I saw that wasn't an option.

That just applies to the Letters in the lotto, right?

[StickFig]

Hel, most of what you're pointing out is literally exactly the same as Druid (total party heal, resurrect, and remedy). The Prophet is basically a Druid with spellcasting and a specialty Meditate option--a Druid of the same Level with a bunch of elemental bows would only differ in overall damage output and in Ether shortages (and note that whether Ether is restored through Tonics or through meditation, it still uses up the Hero's turn).

It's a wonder there aren't more Druids around....

[Sandy]

That just applies to the Letters in the lotto, right?

Nope, Letters of Recommendation are personal. Think about it as a CV - you can't apply to a job with one that has someone else's name on it.

[Flipz]

IMO, that's kinda crappy for such a restriction to be put in place so long after the item was introduced. If it's character-specific and has to be used immediately anyway, then it shouldn't be presented as an item, it should be presented as "congrats, you've won the Lottery, we'll now put in a good word for you with the House of your choice"; instead of offering "a Letter of Recommendation", Quest 138 should have offered "and reputation with the House of your choice".

I mean, it's clearly a form letter in the first place--why else would the same letter appeal to every single House? I get the intention now that you explain it, but if that's the case presenting it as an item that can be used like a commodity is counter-intuitive--it should be presented as an opportunity, like normal Quest-granted reputation is.

EDIT: For typos.

Edited August 22, 2015 by Flipz

[Lind Whisperer]

Nope, Letters of Recommendation are personal. Think about it as a CV - you can't apply to a job with one that has someone else's name on it.

Well...I guess I might as well sign a name onto my letter. *

Could we have the Hall hero list updated with the post-#138 data? I'm kind of looking forward to getting a certain picture of Lind as far out of memory as possible...

IMO, that's kinda crappy for such a restriction to be put in place so long after the item was introduced. If it's character-specific and has to be used immediately anyway, then it shouldn't be presented as an item, it should be presented as "congrats, you've won the Lottery, we'll not put in a good word for you with the House of your choice"; instead of offering "a Letter of Recommendation", Quest 138 should have offered "and reputation with the House of your choice".

I mean, it's clearly a form letter in the first place--why else would the same letter appeal to every single House? I get the intention now that you explain it, but if that's the case presenting it as an item that can be used like a commodity is counter-intuitive--it should be presented as an opportunity, like normal Quest-granted reputation is.

^

*I was planning on signing all along, but having something valuable like it was at hand just kind of gave a good feeling...

[StickFig]

Could we have the Hall hero list updated with the post-#138 data? I'm kind of looking forward to getting a certain picture of Lind as far out of memory as possible...

Flynn Flisperer Forever!!!

[Sandy]

IMO, that's kinda crappy for such a restriction to be put in place so long after the item was introduced. If it's character-specific and has to be used immediately anyway, then it shouldn't be presented as an item, it should be presented as "congrats, you've won the Lottery, we'll now put in a good word for you with the House of your choice"; instead of offering "a Letter of Recommendation", Quest 138 should have offered "and reputation with the House of your choice".

But that restriction has been there ever since it was introduced, even though it wasn't blatantly written out. I thought it was obvious...

The letter is written by the Veterans to any house of the recipient's choosing, so the idea that it could be freely passed around is odd to me.

[Flipz]

But that restriction has been there ever since it was introduced, even though it wasn't blatantly written out. I thought it was obvious...

The letter is written by the Veterans to any house of the recipient's choosing, so the idea that it could be freely passed around is odd to me.

Like I said, I understand your intention now that you explain it, but without that explanation it just seemed like an item that could be traded like any other, which has now ended up significantly affecting some of us who had active deals/trades for Letters because we were unaware of said intention at the time.

Also, to be fair, I think a lot of it came from assumptions tied to the way the game normally operates, which is in part on our end. Still, comparing this:

Letter of Recommendation (Increases reputation with one of the seven main factions depending on the user's choice.)

to these:

Bright Polish (SP +1 to one shield or armor upon use.)

Everlasting Venom (Adds the poisoned by 10-effect to one weapon permanently)

Level-Up Mushroom (Raises level by one full level upon use.)

It should be easy to see how we would naturally tend toward making that mistake.

Also, looking through, I think that the way that Elgar and Hoke roleplayed their Letters all the way back in the second lottery reinforced (in my mind, at least) the assumption that the Letters were an item rather than an opportunity. So...shame on y'all, I guess.

...huh. Did Hybros ever end up using his letter from way back then...?

[Lind Whisperer]

Item suggestion, to solve the problem:

Unsigned Letter of Marque (Increases reputation with one of the seven main factions depending on the user's choice, resalable)

Perhaps, to make sure they didn't replace Letters of Rec., a Letter of Marque would only be worth 1/2 the rep. of a normal Letter? That would make them salable and useful, but they wouldn't replace Letters of Rec. - they would just provide an alternative. Edited August 22, 2015 by Lind Whisperer

[Flipz]

Item suggestion, to solve the problem:

Eh. It's clearly Sandy's intention to disallow the sale of the Letters. I'd just prefer if, therefore, they were presented differently, so it's more immediately obvious that they aren't actual items like everything else in the Lottery.

[Lind Whisperer]

Eh. It's clearly Sandy's intention to disallow the sale of the Letters. I'd just prefer if, therefore, they were presented differently, so it's more immediately obvious that they aren't actual items like everything else in the Lottery.

Seconded on the presentation part, but check my edited post for the rest...

[Khorne]

OoC: Lind now has Good rep with Shadeaux, and is able to train as a Dragoon at level 30.

You need great reputation for a faction to train as its special class...

[Asphalt]

I knew the Letters from the lottery were non-transferable, did not realize that about the quest reward ones.

[Lind Whisperer]

You need great reputation for a faction to train as its special class...

Typo, I have great rep from the Letter and #103.

[Yzalirk]

You also have to be Level 30.

[Lind Whisperer]

You also have to be Level 30.

I didn't mistype that part.

...and is able to train as a Dragoon at level 30.

[Palathadric]

I like Big Red's Staff.

[Pyrovisionary]

I'm on holiday and my Accommodation's WiFi is dysfunctional. But I'm back Monday if it won't work before then

[Lind Whisperer]

And Sandy surprises us with the most quintessential Hero imaginable...

Seriously, though, great character, and I'm looking forward to seeing her in action/RP!

[Palathadric]

Ahem, as the creator of paralyzing venom, I would like to say it was a simpler time. What it did when I created the item was caused afflicted enemies to not be able to deal free hits. In other words, slowed on enemies as we know it now.

Doesn't "Slowed" just make enemies skip dealing free hits every other round?

Edited August 22, 2015 by Palathadric

[Sandy]

Seriously, though, great character, and I'm looking forward to seeing her in action/RP!

Thanks! I really love how she turned out.

Doesn't "Slowed" make enemies skip turns every other round?

See the first page of the Rules topic. It works differently for enemies, since they don't have "turns" per se.