CMP Posted October 1, 2015 Posted October 1, 2015 This'll have an interesting impact on Miderun's faction choice. Quote
KotZ Posted October 1, 2015 Posted October 1, 2015 This'll have an interesting impact on Miderun's faction choice. Kiray is going to be chatting Miderun up quite a bit more now. Quote
Kintobor Posted October 1, 2015 Posted October 1, 2015 Annienal has Wolfgang rep too... hmm... decisions, decisions... Beast Warrior could also work for Annienal... Quote
Lind Whisperer Posted October 1, 2015 Posted October 1, 2015 Annienal has Wolfgang rep too... hmm... decisions, decisions... Beast Warrior could also work for Annienal... Well, that solves the Lannie/Warlann debates.Neither of them. Quote
Sandy Posted October 1, 2015 Author Posted October 1, 2015 I agree with WBD, I think you can say it like this: grey is all good, and a necessary staple of a decent story, character or anything narrative. But too much grey becomes goop. No one likes goop. It's indistinguishable and messy. We need some white and definitely some black every now and again. And because the Wolfgang storyline is so important to Heroica, it's quests are generally great (Quests 6 and 66 are two of my favorites despite not being on either), people expect and want things of them, and because it's a storyline of one person, that creates problems. Maybe. I realized I was lacking a proper villain, so I made Baba one, even though she originally was just a nasty witch living in a bog. Then I tried to insert her into the main storyline in a way that made the faction I most wanted to portray as "shades of grey" as evil, so I needed her to leave one way or another. But I can assure you guys that she will be back to get the whopping she deserves. And next you'll be advocating for vampire rights too, huh. Can't they just go to the blood bank like anyone else? Late again! Dr. Cula has been advocating vampire rights ever since Quest#34! Quote
Endgame Posted October 1, 2015 Posted October 1, 2015 Late again! Dr. Cula has been advocating vampire rights ever since Quest#34! But he's an alchemist. That cheater probably just makes synthetic blood for himself. Quote
Scubacarrot Posted October 1, 2015 Posted October 1, 2015 (edited) I realized I was lacking a proper villain, so I made Baba one, even though she originally was just a nasty witch living in a bog. Then I tried to insert her into the main storyline in a way that made the faction I most wanted to portray as "shades of grey" as evil, so I needed her to leave one way or another. But I can assure you guys that she will be back to get the whopping she deserves. That's very cool. Villains are always the most important character in a story. I do see one problem with having a single villain, especially in what is I think pretty much the main story is that not everyone gets to interact with them, which if you want them involved in the main quest is not ideal. (That's also why I feel like there'd be a push for a villainous faction). But he's an alchemist. That cheater probably just makes synthetic blood for himself. I believe it has been stated that he does do that! Or at least that that is one of his most important research projects. Edited October 1, 2015 by Scubacarrot Quote
Sandy Posted October 1, 2015 Author Posted October 1, 2015 That's very cool. Villains are always the most important character in a story. I do see one problem with having a single villain, especially in what is I think pretty much the main story is that not everyone gets to interact with them, which if you want them involved in the main quest is not ideal. (That's also why I feel like there'd be a push for a villainous faction). Well, that brings up my other major storyline, the Pandemonicon Story Arc... I know it hasn't been featured much, but my next quest will shed more light upon the whole deal with the book and the archdemons. Quote
Waterbrick Down Posted October 1, 2015 Posted October 1, 2015 ...archdemons. There you go Hoke nice and simple, have at 'em. The only one I think you'll have to worry about siding with them is Calamity. Quote
Endgame Posted October 1, 2015 Posted October 1, 2015 There you go Hoke nice and simple, have at 'em. The only one I think you'll have to worry about siding with them is Calamity. Or being seduced by Rosier or eaten by Mephisto or tempted by Abaraxas or something. Quote
UsernameMDM Posted October 1, 2015 Posted October 1, 2015 There you go Hoke nice and simple, have at 'em. The only one I think you'll have to worry about siding with them is Calamity. Humane archdemons with unique/misunderstood thinks & feels? Quote
Lind Whisperer Posted October 1, 2015 Posted October 1, 2015 There you go Hoke nice and simple, have at 'em. The only one I think you'll have to worry about siding with them is Calamity. Don't forget Lind - there's power in them thar books! (Lind won't be siding with any demons, but if there's power to be absorbed, well, who better/worse to absorb it than a certain Munchkin... ) Quote
Scubacarrot Posted October 1, 2015 Posted October 1, 2015 (edited) Archdemons have feelings too. #archdemonacceptance. Edited October 1, 2015 by Scubacarrot Quote
Endgame Posted October 1, 2015 Posted October 1, 2015 (Lind won't be siding with any demons, but if there's power to be absorbed, well, who better/worse to absorb it than a certain Munchkin... ) Lots of people better, not too many worse. Quote
Zepher Posted October 1, 2015 Posted October 1, 2015 Ugh. Sorry, but I came here to play a fantasy RPG, not embroil myself in some socio-political commentary/experiment. Why can't we just fight against monsters, weird creatures and loot long forgotten catacombs and dungeons... Because I find those quests a bore to host, and if I'm going to spend one to two hours every single day working on something for about three or four months, it can't bore me. Quote
UsernameMDM Posted October 1, 2015 Posted October 1, 2015 Because I find those quests a bore to host, and if I'm going to spend one to two hours every single day working on something for about three or four months, it can't bore me. Wasn't talking about you in particular Mr Sensitive. I'm invested in my love/hate relationship with your quests, so feel honored. Quote
Palathadric Posted October 1, 2015 Posted October 1, 2015 Archdemons have feelings too. #archdemonacceptance. Next Quest: Black is white. You're all just colour blind. Quote
KotZ Posted October 1, 2015 Posted October 1, 2015 Next Quest: Black is white. You're all just colour blind. Tridentia Arc somewhat hit that. Quote
UsernameMDM Posted October 1, 2015 Posted October 1, 2015 Next Quest: Black is white. You're all just colour blind. I thought it was blue & gold. .......... Quote
Zepher Posted October 1, 2015 Posted October 1, 2015 Wasn't talking about you in particular Mr Sensitive. I'm invested in my love/hate relationship with your quests, so feel honored. I never worry about reeling Hoke back in. Quote
CMP Posted October 1, 2015 Posted October 1, 2015 I never worry about reeling Hoke back in. Dragon + Quest = Hoke And you always seem to have one floating around. Quote
UsernameMDM Posted October 1, 2015 Posted October 1, 2015 Dragon + Quest = Hoke DURN YOU VIPERA! DURN YOU TO HECK! Quote
Zepher Posted October 1, 2015 Posted October 1, 2015 Well, don't worry, I'm almost almost done hosting. Just 2 more quests, and only one with everyone's favorite little dragon. Also, CMP, speaking of characters who are animalistic - I just looked at the first shot of 130 and saw a seagull on a post and thought to myself "I don't trust that seagull". So good work there. Quote
UsernameMDM Posted October 1, 2015 Posted October 1, 2015 Just 2 more quests, and only one with everyone's favorite little dragon. Oh you didn't hear? She is coming with Hoke back to Eubric after this quest. Quote
Lind Whisperer Posted October 1, 2015 Posted October 1, 2015 Because I find those quests a bore to host, and if I'm going to spend one to two hours every single day working on something for about three or four months, it can't bore me. But those are the easy quests to host! Lots of people better, not too many worse. Just wait until I introduce my oft-recast second character: Bob the Amnesiac Mindflayer! (...Yeah, barring Sandy barring Mindflayer as a PC race, I'm actually serious.) Quote
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