Heroica RPG General Discussion

[K-Nut]

I still think Althior would be an epic Evoker, though...

I'll do that at some point too probably. But I ran out of ideas for summons.

[Brickdoctor]

Considering your terrible luck with the die in Quest 4, Tanma, I think you're going to need as many one-hit knock outs as you can get.

[CMP]

Considering your terrible luck with the die in Quest 4, Tanma, I think you're going to need as many one-hit knock outs as you can get.

That's the logic I was thinking of. And when he's in the back, he won't take as much of the damage we all know is coming.

[Masked Builder]

I still think Althior would be an epic Evoker, though...

Besides, his lover is an Evoker! Why would they both need to be one? Both classes look great but I'll have to look into them to tell you which one I like better.

[Waterbrick Down]

Just something to keep in mind for all of us, don't be afraid to let your imaginations run wild as well when it comes to choosing an advanced class. Who'd have thought we'd ever see Boomingham become a paladin, yet he has achieved a delightful refreshing revamp to the often stereotypical holy warrior. My point is, just because we think our character only fits one advanced class, we need not be afraid to use our creativity and storytelling skills to take them in a whole new and refreshing direction. I realize part of this comes down to how one plays the game, whether for the role playing aspect where in quests and character interactions will be the primary reason for selecting an advanced class, or for the gaming aspect where the purpose is to kill as many enemies, collect as much gold, and finish the most quest with whatever class makes that the most kick butt experience. Neither side is more right than the other and I'm glad to see recommendations being made to people based both on character development and stats/mechanics criteria. So continue on in this discussion, it has turned out to be quite an interesting one, though Flipz, maybe you should consider having Arthur start up a small entrepreneurial business just outside Heroica Hall offering free advanced class counseling for a small fee

Edited February 8, 2012 by Waterbrick Down

[K-Nut]

Besides, his lover is an Evoker! Why would they both need to be one? Both classes look great but I'll have to look into them to tell you which one I like better.

Rule #1: Always listen to the Woman.

[Masked Builder]

Rule #1: Always listen to the Woman.

Watch it, I'm not a woman. After looking at the classes I think I like sage better. You can't run out of Ether.

Edit: I thought it w as mystic knight and sage. I would go sorcerer, they have a bunch of great skills.

[Tanma]

Considering your terrible luck with the die in Quest 4, Tanma, I think you're going to need as many one-hit knock outs as you can get.

True enough, although in the current fight Dak and De'kra both got shields in the same round against the same foe, and then De'kra finished the foe off directly afterwards. His luck could always change of course, but for the moment he is doing so amount of butt kicking. He certainly isn't invincible, as he is down five health, but he has gotten better.

[K-Nut]

Watch it, I'm not a woman.

Alexis! You're a crossdresser?!?!

[Kenghis Ghan]

Anyone know which advanced class Spag should be eventually? I'm not sure which one. :/

[CMP]

Anyone know which advanced class Spag should be eventually? I'm not sure which one. :/

Well, that depends. Like with Flipz, it's hard to tell who your character really is at this point. From what I can see, Berserker or Hunter would be your best bets. Berserker is a force to be reckoned with, and Hunters have long range power, but with both, their Shield pretty turns the battle into a massacre, with War Cry and Marking the Favored.

[Jebediahs]

Just something to keep in mind for all of us, don't be afraid to let your imaginations run wild as well when it comes to choosing an advanced class. Who'd have thought we'd ever see Boomingham become a paladin, yet he has achieved a delightful refreshing revamp to the often stereotypical holy warrior. My point is, just because we think our character only fits one advanced class, we need not be afraid to use our creativity and storytelling skills to take them in a whole new and refreshing direction.

Yes.

I'll do that at some point too probably. But I ran out of ideas for summons.

How? Fire Finnegan, Light Finnegan, Wood Finnegan, Rock Finnegan, Aqua Finnegan...

[Zepher]

I apologize for the spotty and slow updates. I'm in Hamlet currently, and we're in Tech Week (aka Hell Week, for our non-Theater savvy users). We go up this Friday. I'm King Claudius, which, as you may imagine, is fairly draining. Also, fact that I arrive home at 10 and start my massive amounts of homework at that time, most days, really does make updates hard. So, after this Friday, you'll have me 100% of the time (even though I really do promise that we're almost done), but for the time being, thanks for the patience!

[Jedi master Brick]

I am wandering what advanced class I should be? I am thinking either warden or evoker.

[Khorne]

Very interesting to read these latest discussions concerning the characters, in-depth reviews of the Advanced Classes and the reasons/explanations why to pick a certain class.

I already got my mind kind of set on which class(es) I'm going to pick for Eric, but if you don't mind, Flipz, could you give your spectacular insights into the matter (or someone else). I'll just wait in line, after all the others .

I do feel kind of "sad" that I won't be able to become a Black Knights. That class is just so fantastic! Game-wise and background-wise.

[Kenghis Ghan]

I just had an idea; how about, in our signatures for the RPG (where we list age and race and all that), we put our characters' personality? Like just a short list of words that describe our characters or something?

[Fred Daniel Yam]

I just had an idea; how about, in our signatures for the RPG (where we list age and race and all that), we put our characters' personality? Like just a short list of words that describe our characters or something?

Or that moral compass thing Jebediahs used to have on his profile describing Nur.

[Tanma]

I just had an idea; how about, in our signatures for the RPG (where we list age and race and all that), we put our characters' personality? Like just a short list of words that describe our characters or something?

I have all information on De'kra on my "about me" page that I deemed important. That includes his personality, as well as clues on his behavior and memories.

[Capt.JohnPaul]

Also, I'm wondering for Alexandre. I kind of want to be the Warden class, with a shield and long range weapons from the back row, but character wise, he's more of a paladin. Any ideas?

[Rumble Strike]

Looks like Tarn will be the only Shaman, possibly because it's not as sexy as some of the other Barbarian/x advanced classes?

I have to admit, I don't actually like some of the terminology used in the traits and abilities, they don't feel quite right, but I can't let that put me off, I can roleplay any issues out.

[Sandy]

I have to admit, I don't actually like some of the terminology used in the traits and abilities, they don't feel quite right...

I apologize, but you have to remember that English is not my first language, so the more subtle meanings of words and phrases sometimes elude me.

If you have examples or suggestions, though, I can see what I can do about them.

[RPGer]

Hey there! I will be posting my Mage shortly. Flipz, I love Arthur and I think he is best at Sage. ( I've followed Heroica since it started, but never joined. ) I love this game!

[Flipz]

I apologize, but you have to remember that English is not my first language,

It's not? You could have fooled me!

Anyone know which advanced class Spag should be eventually? I'm not sure which one. :/

Very interesting to read these latest discussions concerning the characters, in-depth reviews of the Advanced Classes and the reasons/explanations why to pick a certain class.

I already got my mind kind of set on which class(es) I'm going to pick for Eric, but if you don't mind, Flipz, could you give your spectacular insights into the matter (or someone else). I'll just wait in line, after all the others .

I do feel kind of "sad" that I won't be able to become a Black Knights. That class is just so fantastic! Game-wise and background-wise.

Since both of you are Barbarians, I'll address both of you in this WoT.

Barbarians' choice of classes is most like choosing a class at the start of the game; the choice you make will DRAMATICALLY change your style of play from the way it was before. It's more of a class change than a class boost, which has its advantages and disadvantages. On the one hand, a change in pace can be welcome, but the unfamiliarity of the new playstyle can make your first few Quests with a new class much more difficult.

Let's start with, as you might have guessed, the Raider. Out of all the Barbarian--type classes, this one retains the most "Barbarian-ness"; Ravage hits all enemies and, as an added bonus, gets gold. The additional gold is really the most Rogue-like ability for the Raider, though Flee might have its uses at times. You still get Natural Respite and 3x damage criticals, two Barbarian abilities that help define their strength. Overall, this is the way to go if you like playing a Barbarian as-is, but want a stat boost and some extra gold.

Next up is Berserker. As Tesni has found out, War Cry is very different from Fury, and the reliance on multi-enemy damage can wreck some battle plans. Berserker has the absolute highest health boost of all Barbarian-classes, and it comes with the damage reduction offered by a Knight's shield, not to mention the benefeits to the party of what is essentially free Mead, but all that comes at a cost. The Berserker cannot switch targets until the first one they chose is dead. If you make the wrong choice, you are "locked in" until the enemy is dead; it's a major loss of flexibility. On the other hand, Miss is replaced by Counter, which is both a blessing and a curse. On the one hand, it's a third way to deal damage (since Shield is a status boost only), but on the other hand it's a third way to take damage. Berserkers will need to pour obscene amounts of money into WP in order for Counter to be a reliable damage method, and even more money into their shields in order to stay alive. If you really want this class, Id recommend playing Raider for a Quest or two and then switching. Otherwise, find an Assassin and form a permanent partnership; their insta-kill posibility can be a lifesaver for allied Berserkers.

Battle Mages are interesting. On the one hand, their stats are awful compared to the other classes, and they have to deal with healing Ether AND Health. On the other, they have 4 different ways to damage enemies, with their Shield effectively dealing 4x damage, up to 8x damage if both the weapon and the random magical element are super-effective! Natural Respite is always good, and you get to play Elemental rock-paper-scissors with the rest of the Mages and gems. I'm not sure this would fit either Spag or Eric, but if Tesni decides not to stay a Berserker, she might like Battle Mage to go along with Cysogdion.

Hunter is REALLY good for exactly two types of people: QMs (in the form of party NPCs) and real-world psychics. Marking the Favored turns the battle (or even the Quest) into a bloodbath...IF they choose the right enemy type to favor. The favored type does stay between battles (I think...), but savvy QMs can totally ruin Hunters by having the enemies completely swap types for each battle. Hunters will excel for elementally-themed Quests (like BAP's Winter Problems or a Quest set in a volcano or something), but most Quests will let the QM balance the Hunter's insane damage potential. On the other hand, having a back row attack is always a good thing, especially with such relatively low (for a Barbarian) HP gain.

The final Barbarian-class, Shaman is another secret rockstar. They are, of course, one of the hardest-hitting Clerics, and Natural Respite means you will really only need to spend Ether on other party members, instead of yourself. Unlike the other Barbarian Ether class, Battle Mage, Shmans have the second-highest HP gain of all Barbarian classes (behind Berserker), and their Shield both damages the enemy AND heals an ally (or you). Khorne, Eric really seems like he'd make a good Shaman, it makes sense to me that he'd seek a more direct connection to his deities what with all of the bad luck he's been having. There's one thing all potential Shamans MUST avoid at all costs, and that's Witches on the allied team. If you even THINK there's going to be a Witch on your Quest, run the other way. Their perma-poison will completely screw up your Shield and can most definitely kill you or your other party members. (Besides that, two Clerics in one party is overkill, unless the party has to split up at some point.)

I'm not sure which class to recommend for Spag...you haven't revealed too much backstory, and you haven't really had the chance to see how Spag's luck in battle is. Maybe Hunter if you want to convert that one-off McCafferey gag into a real storyline, but I'd recommend expanding your character a bit more story-wise before making a final choice.

EDIT:

I am wandering what advanced class I should be? I am thinking either warden or evoker.

Also, I'm wondering for Alexandre. I kind of want to be the Warden class, with a shield and long range weapons from the back row, but character wise, he's more of a paladin. Any ideas?

I'll get to both of you as soon as I can, I have class soon this morning.

Edited February 8, 2012 by Flipz

[Khorne]

Wow . Thanks for giving an in-depth analysis of all those classes. You raise points I would've never thought of .

The final Barbarian-class, Shaman is another secret rockstar. They are, of course, one of the hardest-hitting Clerics, and Natural Respite means you will really only need to spend Ether on other party members, instead of yourself. Unlike the other Barbarian Ether class, Battle Mage, Shmans have the second-highest HP gain of all Barbarian classes (behind Berserker), and their Shield both damages the enemy AND heals an ally (or you). Khorne, Eric really seems like he'd make a good Shaman, it makes sense to me that he'd seek a more direct connection to his deities what with all of the bad luck he's been having.

All the bad luck I'm having in the battles right now is definitely going to influence the choice I'll be making. Before I started the current Quest I'm in, I already knew what class I would pick. But then I started suffering from these extremely terrible dicerolls in the current Quest, so I figured the bad luck was bound to have an impact on Eric as a person/character and my choice of Advanced Class. I'll still be going for the original Advanced Class I had in mind, but with a small detour .

Your theory on how Eric would deal with his problems is nice, but it's not what I have thought out. Eric's connection with the gods is already very strong (though it has lessened in the current Quest) and has reached it summit several years back in his storyline, but that you couldn't know, of course since I have yet to reveal more of his past. He believes in the gods, but not in such a way that he would become a "priest" of some sort. So, I'll have him take another way to cope with the bad luck .

[Peppermint_M]

Well, in my first quest as a berserker I have sorely missed my frenzy special, but it suits the character to take this class. I won't be bogged down by extra stats that need healing and the high health makes for a great "meat shield". As for tactics, well I can't make all the enemies fall at once but only truly rotten luck will KO me, keeping at one target is frustrating but so far my targets have been such that a regular hit only halves their HP, so I would have carried on at them anyway.

I would love a diamond for Cryfder though....