Lind Whisperer Posted June 8, 2016 Posted June 8, 2016 Huh. So that's what Character Development is like. I don't think I've had an (in-character) moment like that since the ending of #122... Fun Stuff. Quote
samurai-turtle Posted June 8, 2016 Posted June 8, 2016 WE can and will put you back in the corner. Why, just throw him to the "mob". Quote
Endgame Posted June 8, 2016 Posted June 8, 2016 Why, just throw him to the "mob". I could write for every single Progg in there, but that'd take too long. Quote
swils Posted June 8, 2016 Posted June 8, 2016 (edited) Seriously considered adding a "Thormanil makes a move at shoving Lind into the adoring crowd" and letting End/LW take it from there, but I'm sure Lind would have been aware enough as to dodge such a clumsy effort /shrug Edit: That was regarding my earlier post. Having read developments since then? Nah, a solid shove backwards seems fitting. Might as well edit again, given the current "dialogue": "Drachen-childe, if you have nothing good to say..." I wasn't aware that Lind was also fluent in dragon-tongue, although, given his deep and seemingly endless bag of tricks, I probably should have expected it. Edited June 8, 2016 by swils Quote
Lind Whisperer Posted June 8, 2016 Posted June 8, 2016 If this is about the earlier encounter...I forget the exact details, but if Lind shouldn't have been able to understand her, my apologies.If this is about during the mob encounter, Lind didn't speak to any dragons until after Arx had blocked his path. I assumed Arx was speaking so that Lind could understand. Whether Miirym's remarks were understandable, is more up in the air, but it made for a humorous moment, so I went with it. If Flipz would like to correct me, and she was not understandable, I will cheerfully change them. Calming down, he acknowledges Miirym's point about timing with a huff. He turns to leave once again, not paying too much mind as his tail delivers a solid *thwack!* to the black knight as he did so. Endgame, could you roll/calculate that, to see how much damage was done? Quote
swils Posted June 8, 2016 Posted June 8, 2016 You addressed the earlier one, no worries. In my head, this was basically an outburst in one's native tongue (insert movie trope where french waiter curses out some american tourist, or some such), so I wasn't exactly expecting Lind to understand it. I think I've been fairly consistent in who Arx addresses, always using the <> to indicate non-human tongue. Quote
Endgame Posted June 8, 2016 Posted June 8, 2016 Considering damage done in the field is almost always healed back, I don't think I'll be doing any number crunching. Quote
Flipz Posted June 8, 2016 Posted June 8, 2016 You addressed the earlier one, no worries. In my head, this was basically an outburst in one's native tongue (insert movie trope where french waiter curses out some american tourist, or some such), so I wasn't exactly expecting Lind to understand it. I think I've been fairly consistent in who Arx addresses, always using the <> to indicate non-human tongue. Ah, that's my bad, I think, I've been using the "<>" for Miirym's telepathy-speak business. I tried for a while to consistently use formatting to indicate what was Draconic and what was telepathy, but I've kind of given up at this point and just started saying "Miirym speaks to [person] in the language of the Dragons" instead. Considering damage done in the field is almost always healed back, I don't think I'll be doing any number crunching. Unless you're in Spesialia, where plain old walking takes you to 1 HP for literally no reason. Quote
swils Posted June 8, 2016 Posted June 8, 2016 I believe they've been around much longer than that, first being used as the indicator for Animal Talk, though my lunch break's up and I don't have the time to dig up any ancient examples, heh. Quote
Endgame Posted June 8, 2016 Posted June 8, 2016 Just be like Immortalis, and learn all the languages he knows the hard way -books and conversation. Quote
Flipz Posted June 8, 2016 Posted June 8, 2016 I believe they've been around much longer than that, first being used as the indicator for Animal Talk, though my lunch break's up and I don't have the time to dig up any ancient examples, heh. Right, and originally that's what I used them for (Draconic speech), but I guess with the yellow text as well, people seem to miss them, so I just gave up around the time 139 started. I think there's also some confusion over it since Vipera uses <> but without quotation marks for her telepathy-speak. I guess I can follow the Vipera example--<> without quotes for telepathy, "<>" with the quotes for Dragon-speech? I'll be honest, it's kind of hard to maintain a consistent standard to match both Vipera and the regular Animal Talk-style stuff. Quote
swils Posted June 8, 2016 Posted June 8, 2016 Telepathy is its own mess -- have fun with that, heh. Just be like Immortalis, and learn all the languages he knows the hard way -books and conversation. If Arx wishes to yell at someone in draconian, that's his prerogative. It's up to the illiterate mortal to learn the language! Quote
Enceladus Posted June 8, 2016 Posted June 8, 2016 Unless you're in Spesialia, where plain old walking takes you to 1 HP for literally no reason. :rofl: You forget that the queen then block your attempts to heal for no apparent reason! Quote
JimBee Posted June 9, 2016 Posted June 9, 2016 Right, and originally that's what I used them for (Draconic speech), but I guess with the yellow text as well, people seem to miss them, so I just gave up around the time 139 started. I think there's also some confusion over it since Vipera uses <> but without quotation marks for her telepathy-speak. I guess I can follow the Vipera example--<> without quotes for telepathy, "<>" with the quotes for Dragon-speech? I'll be honest, it's kind of hard to maintain a consistent standard to match both Vipera and the regular Animal Talk-style stuff. Yeah, just mentioning in italics whether the dialog is in draconian, common, or telepathic would be easiest IMO. Quote
Flipz Posted June 9, 2016 Posted June 9, 2016 Yeah, just mentioning in italics whether the dialog is in draconian, common, or telepathic would be easiest IMO. I'm not 100% sure I've been consistent with this, but Miirym can't speak common, she can only "speak" it through telepathy. Her physical speech is always Draconic. Quote
JimBee Posted June 9, 2016 Posted June 9, 2016 I'm not 100% sure I've been consistent with this, but Miirym can't speak common, she can only "speak" it through telepathy. Her physical speech is always Draconic. So she can only speak to one person at a time? And other characters shouldn't be responding to her when she's not addressing them? Quote
swils Posted June 9, 2016 Posted June 9, 2016 Like I said, telepathy is its own thing. Seems silly to have to specify draconian, when there's already a syntax for it, and even a whole class trait dedicated to it/specifying it as a thing, akin to animal talk. shrug Quote
Flipz Posted June 9, 2016 Posted June 9, 2016 (edited) So she can only speak to one person at a time? And other characters shouldn't be responding to her when she's not addressing them? No, she just "broadcasts" on a general frequency unless she's deliberately trying to speak to only someone specific. Again, she follows Vipera rules (see Dastan, 53, 104, and 139). Edited June 9, 2016 by Flipz Quote
Zepher Posted June 9, 2016 Posted June 9, 2016 Yeah, for sake of ease way back on Quest 19 I decided dragons have their own language but can speak with their minds in whatever language they so choose. People have honored it mostly, though it's varied largely! In 105 there was a special dragon who could verbally speak "common" or whatever we choose to call it. So there aren't any hard and fast rules, just if you want to follow what came before. Quote
JimBee Posted June 9, 2016 Posted June 9, 2016 Like I said, telepathy is its own thing. Seems silly to have to specify draconian, when there's already a syntax for it, and even a whole class trait dedicated to it/specifying it as a thing, akin to animal talk. shrug Yeah, for sake of ease way back on Quest 19 I decided dragons have their own language but can speak with their minds in whatever language they so choose. People have honored it mostly, though it's varied largely! In 105 there was a special dragon who could verbally speak "common" or whatever we choose to call it. So there aren't any hard and fast rules, just if you want to follow what came before. What Zepher said makes sense to me. Dragons can commonly use telepathy, though sometimes can speak with their mouths (I think the Dragonlord's dragon and Volumniix from 129 could). The fact that some don't know a particular language makes sense, and draconian is it's own language. No, she just "broadcasts" on a general frequency unless she's deliberately trying to speak to only someone specific. Again, she follows Vipera rules (see Dastan, 53, 104, and 139). Quote
Asphalt Posted June 9, 2016 Posted June 9, 2016 What if they are always speaking draconian and . . . . . wait for it. . . . . we all understand because. . . . . . . . . . . munchkin knowledge. Quote
samurai-turtle Posted June 9, 2016 Posted June 9, 2016 What if they are always speaking draconian and . . . . . wait for it. . . . . we all understand because. . . . . . . . . . . munchkin knowledge. Is that better than "Germ's Demon knowledge"? On a more serious note. You guys might want to let up before he really gets upset. Quote
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