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Can someone explain the logic behind the attacking from front lets me deal more damage than back? I really didn't understand why.

I see it that if you attack from the front with say a sword, you can stab deeper with your blade than if you stood farther away. So from th back you might be able to pierce an inch of armor and skin, but from the front you can stab through the whole foe, as you have more reach. Ranged weapons have the same penetration despite the row, so they hurt the same regardless of row.

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I see it that if you attack from the front with say a sword, you can stab deeper with your blade than if you stood farther away. So from th back you might be able to pierce an inch of armor and skin, but from the front you can stab through the whole foe, as you have more reach. Ranged weapons have the same penetration despite the row, so they hurt the same regardless of row.

Also, from the back row you need to take some steps to reach the enemy, giving it time to avoid your attack from hitting straight-on.

But really, this is just a game, don't think it too realistically or you'll lose all enjoyment. :tongue:

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But really, this is just a game, don't think it too realistically or you'll lose all enjoyment. :tongue:

Oh well, that's what I was hoping to hear. :)

The reason why I asked was because of the d&d rules and stuff. You hit easier from behind usually, not hard. :D

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Oh well, that's what I was hoping to hear. :)

The reason why I asked was because of the d&d rules and stuff. You hit easier from behind usually, not hard. :D

Attacking from the back row & from behind are two different things.

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Attacking from the back row & from behind are two different things.

Hmm? Then I need some explanation, what kind of difference, what it refers to then?

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Hmm? Then I need some explanation, what kind of difference, what it refers to then?

Simply put, the heroes can fight in two rows: the front and the back. The fighters in the front can reach the enemy easier, but are also easier to damage. The fighters in the back are harder to reach, but also cause decreased damage unless they use ranged weapons or spells.

If you still didn't understand, here's a picture:

Suikoden_screenshot.jpg

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Hmm? Then I need some explanation, what kind of difference, what it refers to then?

See Sandy's above post. Plus in D&D you can attack from behind with or without flanking. There are no in battle attacks from behind in Heroica. Try not to apply rules from other games to Heroica. Makes it less complicated that way. :classic:

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Am I the first QM to be running two side-quests at the same time. :tongue: My party wanted to do everything in one day!

Sorry, I'm too active for solo miniquests... :laugh:

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I have to admit, I think Tarn is really bouncing off some of these NPCs and members of my team. It's quite a cool dynamic between Nyx and Tarn, and I feel Tarn's speeches to [redacted] really get into his character.

Edited by Rumble Strike
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I thought I'd move the quick Quest 28 discussion here. I don't mind the role playing at all. That's part of the game, and it's how I enjoy the game (the same for Scorpiox, I believe), while I know others like the strategy and battles. Both ways are fine and both ways can be done. What bothers me a little is that we can't move on because (without warning) one of the questers, the one who would be the deciding factor in the situation (if she doesn't give him money, then we'd move on, if she does, we'd let the vampies suck away and then move on) has not logged on and put us all in a squeeze. Sorry if you want to get ahead with the main plot, BD, but I think role playing should be encouraged as much as forward progress, because that's how some people enjoy the game. I'm just frustrated we don't know where our final player is.

Also, I know you and know you weren't being mean when you asked if this was just role playing. Just thought I'd rant real quick about how it pulls us down when certain players just don't show up without warning. It's happened on previous quests to me before, and as a QM it's occurred once or twice. At the very least, commit to the quests you sign up for.

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I thought I'd move the quick Quest 28 discussion here. I don't mind the role playing at all. That's part of the game, and it's how I enjoy the game (the same for Scorpiox, I believe), while I know others like the strategy and battles. Both ways are fine and both ways can be done. What bothers me a little is that we can't move on because (without warning) one of the questers, the one who would be the deciding factor in the situation (if she doesn't give him money, then we'd move on, if she does, we'd let the vampies suck away and then move on) has not logged on and put us all in a squeeze. Sorry if you want to get ahead with the main plot, BD, but I think role playing should be encouraged as much as forward progress, because that's how some people enjoy the game. I'm just frustrated we don't know where our final player is.

Also, I know you and know you weren't being mean when you asked if this was just role playing. Just thought I'd rant real quick about how it pulls us down when certain players just don't show up without warning. It's happened on previous quests to me before, and as a QM it's occurred once or twice. At the very least, commit to the quests you sign up for.

Oh, I don't mind the roleplay, either. I'm just wondering what are Scorpiox's goals in doing this, because if he has a reason to think it could help with the main goal of the quest, then I'd lend him the 100 Gold.

Sorry if that sounded mean. :blush:

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I really would like to see Haldor get the money he needs; it would be a great example of roleplaying honestly even when it hurts, one that would serve as an example for future players. Just my two cents. :wink:

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Well, if people would prefer I'll put a nice little strike through all of that, but I thought it was the best way to protect Haldor's ideals and get us moving. :laugh: Sorry Scorpiox, if you think Haldor would take on Boomingham (very possible) we can retcon!

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Sorry to bring this on you guys, the original options were to either fight the vampires or let them leave. I wasn't quite expecting this third scenario to come up, but I am kind of glad it did. I'll speak more of this when the quest ends, but my QM style is to mimic everyday happenings within the context of the overarching frame of the quest's ultimate goal. Thus there will be things like an archery tournament, a fight with vampires, a side quest at an old hotel, and other events that don't necessarily relate to the quest but relate to developing Heroica as a world with events and happenings that go on whether the heroes see/are involved in them or not.

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Sorry to bring this on you guys, the original options were to either fight the vampires or let them leave. I wasn't quite expecting this third scenario to come up, but I am kind of glad it did. I'll speak more of this when the quest ends, but my QM style is to mimic everyday happenings within the context of the overarching frame of the quest's ultimate goal. Thus there will be things like an archery tournament, a fight with vampires, a side quest at an old hotel, and other events that don't necessarily relate to the quest but relate to developing Heroica as a world with events and happenings that go on whether the heroes see/are involved in them or not.

So in other words, you run the sort of Quest I'd like to run someday. :thumbup:

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I have to admit, I think Tarn is really bouncing off some of these NPCs and membersof my team. It's quite a cool dynamic between Nyx and Tarn, and I feel Tarn's speeches to REDACTED really get into his character.

It's great you're enjoying the quest, but this is probably a point to add a reminder that some players are entirely on the dark regarding the other quests. This isn't solely directed at Rumble (whose own quest I am enjoying reading!).

Please be careful about what information you drop regarding the Dastaan quests. Thank you.

Edited by Chromeknight
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Sorry if I gave away any info! I shall edit the statement. I am not reading the other two Dastan quests either.

And it looks like I can't edit anything! So apologies to all. And now I can edit. How strange :wacko:

Edited by Rumble Strike
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Well, if people would prefer I'll put a nice little strike through all of that, but I thought it was the best way to protect Haldor's ideals and get us moving. :laugh: Sorry Scorpiox, if you think Haldor would take on Boomingham (very possible) we can retcon!

No, I'm actually really pleased that you did that. It helps to move on without Haldor having to defy his beliefs and fight the Vampires. :classic:

Maybe Haldor deliberatly went down, as you'll see later... :wink:

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Ban this sick filth! Won't somebody think of the children!

Elgar sex the aura

:laugh: A timely typo given the discussion a couple of pages back!

Edited by Rumble Strike
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I'm just curious to know if Jess has any reaction to anything that just happened concerning Haldor? I'd love some input if it isn't too much trouble. :classic:

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